New Stadium Rumour

Quoted from golfer

Why don't we all forget the new stadium for a while. Rumours rumours and more rumours-and that's all they are. Loads of armchair architects and accountants making out they know what's going on when there's NOTHING going on. If there is any news we will be told when the time is right. At present it's all FAKE news.It's like this government should have been doing-don't give out information until it is fact.

I don't think anyone's pretending they know what's going on, it's the exact opposite from what I'm reading.  We're crying out to be told what is/isn't happening.

Rumours they may be but the club are the only ones who are capable of shutting the mill down with the hard truth.

In my opinion, the more we stay quiet the more licence the club has to continue to keep us in the dark.  The current mob at the top table are just custodians of the club. It's not their club, it's our club.  They have no justification in keeping the lifeblood of the club in the dark like this.

Quoted from golfer

Why don't we all forget the new stadium for a while. Rumours rumours and more rumours-and that's all they are. Loads of armchair architects and accountants making out they know what's going on when there's NOTHING going on. If there is any news we will be told when the time is right. At present it's all FAKE news.It's like this government should have been doing-don't give out information until it is fact.

Up until Cllr Wheatley opened his mouth it was just fake news/ rumours etc.....however now he has slipped that out of the bag its a little more than that now.

A big problem you have before anything gets off the ground or a penny is found is the apathy of residents to anything at all getting built or moving the Town forward. People don't like change and a good percentage of residents are happy with their lot, look at  the grief when the Auditorium plans came out and the same negative press for the money to develop Cleethorpes ....money from central government that will be spent elsewhere if we don't use it ,hopefully wisely unlike the monstrosity that is Freeman st paving and street lights.
I don't mind where the ground ends up as long as it's easy access to everyone, with facilities for all in a location that's pleasing on the eye and safe to leave your car without damage which is why I wouldn't be keen on Freemo even if we had Abramovich's millions behind us to turn it into something half decent.

Quoted from Grim up north

A big problem you have before anything gets off the ground or a penny is found is the apathy of residents to anything at all getting built or moving the Town forward. People don't like change and a good percentage of residents are happy with their lot, look at  the grief when the Auditorium plans came out and the same negative press for the money to develop Cleethorpes ....money from central government that will be spent elsewhere if we don't use it ,hopefully wisely unlike the monstrosity that is Freeman st paving and street lights.
I don't mind where the ground ends up as long as it's easy access to everyone, with facilities for all in a location that's pleasing on the eye and safe to leave your car without damage which is why I wouldn't be keen on Freemo even if we had Abramovich's millions behind us to turn it into something half decent.

An interesting post which highlights the need for leadership of the project; we need an enthusiastic council who see the benefit of the facilities for the town. Leadership involves rising above the apathy (mainly caused by so many false dawns in the past) and showing what could be done. In a perfect world Freemo would be transformed into an area that is totally different to today - this has been done in many towns and cities throughout the land.

I grew up in the East marsh - the slums in John Street, a terraced house in Church Street and a council flat in Bath Street so I know the area well and know it is not the most salubrious part of the town and your worry about parking, but this could be a once in a lifetime opportunity to change things for the better and remove a blight on the town.

Having said that, I have no faith at all that any vision will be shown - either by the council or the club so as you were!

Having read the earlier posts, I am not surprised Fenty doesn't seem keen. Its not his idea, and a community stadium for the benefit of us all perhaps doesn't bring the riches he was hoping for.    

Heard the interviews with the counciller and Lowther on the way home this evening.  Bloody brilliant was my reaction. Fenty must either get on board with the idea or stand aside.

I asked on here years ago what the cost (capital and on going) of the new stadium was, and what BP currently costs to maintain and what the future revenue projections were for the new stadium. And what therefore is the funding gap to be covered by developers, and told to shut up in not so many words by the pro PP lobby. "It's too early for that*" they all said  (Fenty and other posters). And here we are now with no progress on PP. * what that really meant was "WE HAVEN'T A FUCKINGCLUE'.

So now the lead council member for regeneration is basically saying, let us know what you think. What is the demand for the stadium being on the East Marsh.

Time to get lobbying folks!!

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Heard the interviews with the counciller and Lowther on the way home this evening.  Bloody brilliant was my reaction. Fenty must either get on board with the idea or stand aside.

I asked on here years ago what the cost (capital and on going) of the new stadium was, and what BP currently costs to maintain and what the future revenue projections were for the new stadium. And what therefore is the funding gap to be covered by developers, and told to shut up in not so many words by the pro PP lobby. "It's too early for that*" they all said  (Fenty and other posters). And here we are now with no progress on PP. * what that really meant was "WE HAVEN'T A FUCKINGCLUE'.

So now the lead council member for regeneration is basically saying, let us know what you think. What is the demand for the stadium being on the East Marsh.

Time to get lobbying folks!!

How about a poll on here to show the council what we think ?

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How about a poll on here to show the council what we think ?

It'd be much more effective to write directly to your ward councillors, the portfolio holder for regeneration who was on today and maybe your MP (for any help needed from central government).

When I did a NIMBY thing years ago, I was advised that petitions were not much use, but individual letters* showed a greater strength of feeling because they took more effort. You were much likely to remember the issue and vote accordingly if you could be bothered to write a letter (bearing in mind this was pre-internet). Even more effort was involved if you hand delivered them and therefore had even more impact.

* not templates with just the names added

Lets be honest if the club really wanted a new stadium,

We would have had it by now.

Kingston -I don't think it's anything to do with NIMBY-more like they can't find anybody prepared to cough up the money for various reasons-one being the uncertainty of being able to find a market for the proposed "houses" needed to fund the project when the council has allowed houses to be built everywhere, without a thought for the stadium, in the recent years.