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MuddyWaters |
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I am currently(rather coincidentally) halfway through his autobiography, it's been keeping me busy the last couple of night shifts. Seems a top guy and very knowledgeable but like I said I do believe most fans understood Fentys decision even if it did come as a shock
Remember that Ray comes from a club that is reluctant to change and you can understand why he found it strange. As far as he was concerned, Fenty appointed in October, gave money in January, sacked early April = strange!
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barralad |
September 14, 2017, 10:45pm |
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Talk about re-writing history I think I am right in saying when news was announced that Bignot had been sacked it took everyone by surprise,anymore revisionist theories?
People being surprised doesn't necessarily mean that they all thought it was a bad idea as a quick resume of the 29 page Bignot Sacked thread would show you. It's hardly relevant though because what I'm saying is that plenty of contributors on here voiced opinions pretty quickly that Mr Bignot wasn't all he was cracked up to be. The rewriting of history is being carried out on this thread as Marcus is now being portrayed in certain quarters as someone who should've been beyond reproach. I'm pointing out that throughout his short tenure there was as much negative stuff written about him as positive. And before you ask you may be among the people who saw nothing but good in Bignot from Day 1. I didn't check but it was why I qualified my previous post.
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September 14, 2017, 10:50pm |
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Good post Barra.
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September 14, 2017, 10:52pm |
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I neither saw all good nor all bad,but after the dourness of Hurst he was a change,his record was no worse than Slade's should not the same logic apply.
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MuddyWaters |
September 14, 2017, 11:09pm |
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The fact that he was prepared to say we were not up to speed regarding infrastructure probably says all we needed to know. If we weren't, then surely he made the board aware at that time. If he didn't, then it's his own fault that it ended the way it did.
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barralad |
September 14, 2017, 11:14pm |
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I neither saw all good nor all bad,but after the dourness of Hurst he was a change,his record was no worse than Slade's should not the same logic apply.
Personally I didn't think Bignot had been given enough time. I was surprised at the timing. Were we currently debating Slade's sacking I suspect the thread would look pretty similar to this one because the same criteria would apply. I've seen every match in Slade's 2nd spell except Chesterfield and the game at Accrington the other night (perhaps there's a pattern developing there!) and I've yet to see anything as good as Mansfield at home under Bignot or as bad as the Donny game or Crewe away under him.
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Mariner Ronnie |
September 14, 2017, 11:38pm |
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I still think the performance against Doncaster at home was the death nell for Bignot's job. He said in the previous interview to that game how it was practically impossible to get into the playoffs but as a matter of fact it was possible, but you have to fight to the end. Though he deemed it necessary to make many changes that game.
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VinnyGTFC |
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I work in Women's football and for me the difference is there is no money chasing in Women's football. Other than the top clubs who pay some money and look for success it's a much less tainted area of the sport where as an example where Town need to deal with agents and journeymen with excessive wage demands etc. Women's teams are more likely to bring in the likes of sports science people to improve what they have. I think there are more forward thinking people in the Women's game but if it became a lot bigger then I imagine they would have similar problems.
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September 15, 2017, 6:09pm |
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Yes, I know I'm name dropping but.., I was having a beer with Ray Parlour when the Bignot sacking was announced. His immediate response was WTF has he done, that makes no sense at all. He's far more qualified than me in these matters.
I met Ray last year too at very crappy corporate function. He gave a really good speech then stayed for lunch which was after the time we had booked him for and gave everyone who was interested really good time & attention, very friendly, approachable and warm a real genuine normal bloke unlike author of said article.
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September 15, 2017, 7:10pm |
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Ray knows more about how football clubs are run than you or ever will. Since we became neighbours then friends, he has taken a lot of interest in GTFC, and could not get his head around the circumstances leading to Bignot 's departure
Interesting old codger. I was talking to my old mate becks, over the garden hedge the other day ,and he said how shocked he was. Big Sam was round at the time and said he heard rumours so wasn't completely surprised
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