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friskneymariner
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Where are those senior players now I ask myself.


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Where are those senior players now I ask myself.


I would hazard a guess that the senior players who went to the board are ones that left. I am sure Slade will have discovered what happened for Bignot to get sacked and any players who did go to the board will have been seen as a potential problem for him further down the line.

This is not a criticism of Slade because if was manager I would remove these people too.
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It may be that everyone offering Bignot support on this thread never thought he should have been sacked when he was but there was certainly a considerable volume of opinion on here and across social media suggesting the axe not only should have been wielded but even earlier than it was.
On the plus side there were excellent wins at Carlisle and Blackpool but there was at least as many monumentally poor performances. I remember the reaction to the Crewe defeat on here. It was the most embarrassing 45 minutes first half since the Halifax away game two years ago.  The last half hour versus Stevenage away was in the words of a very much respected poster on here to me at the game akin to Sunday League where you try to chase the game by banging as many people up front as the substitute rules allow you. If Crewe wasn't enough he then committed the cardinal sin of in the words of countless posters on here and elsewhere of putting out an experimental team in arguably the biggest game of the season v Donny at home with an all too predictable result.
Many on here had their bullsh1tometers triggered within weeks as Bignot was identified as one who could "Talk the talk" but was somewhat less inclined to "walk the walk".
In a normal world he"d have got longer but in the rarefied atmosphere of 21st century pro. football I can see why he was finished. To say he was unfairly sacked given the stick he got is at best disingenuous.


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I would hazard a guess that the senior players who went to the board are ones that left. I am sure Slade will have discovered what happened for Bignot to get sacked and any players who did go to the board will have been seen as a potential problem for him further down the line.

This is not a criticism of Slade because if was manager I would remove these people too.


My feelings too.


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Yes, I know I'm name dropping but.., I was having a beer with Ray Parlour when the Bignot sacking was announced. His immediate response was WTF has he done, that makes no sense at all. He's far more qualified than me in these matters.
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Yes, I know I'm name dropping but.., I was having a beer with Ray Parlour when the Bignot sacking was announced. His immediate response was WTF has he done, that makes no sense at all. He's far more qualified than me in these matters.


Yes because he knows all about the ongoings at an obscure league 2 club. Most GTFC fans will know more about why Bignot was sacked than Ray Parlour. I think the general feeling amongst fans was shock but at the same time we knew it was coming
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Did We? If it was another club, we'd be saying it was ridiculous and another weird decision in the crazy world of football.
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Yes because he knows all about the ongoings at an obscure league 2 club. Most GTFC fans will know more about why Bignot was sacked than Ray Parlour. I think the general feeling amongst fans was shock but at the same time we knew it was coming


I have got no clue as to why Bignot was sacked


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I can't believe that he didn't push for the playoffs just because he was told to avoid relegation and nothing else. I would have thought that avoiding relegation was no.1 priortry  playoffs no.2 priortry.

Doesn't make sense not to want to go up.


JF's only publicly declared target for last season was to stay in the League, that was announced at the start of the season......Hurst likewise towed the party line and followed suit with the same statement...no mention of even play offs would be nice, any wonder we didnt set the League alight.  
Bignot therefore couldnt have had any other target set and by the time we were safe did he then take time to rotate and evaluate the squad by trying all sorts of formations and line ups thinking it didnt matter on results but learning about players was key ?

While i didnt hold much faith in Bignot's chances of success if he had stayed i do truly believe that he was expecting to be given support to invest in the infrastructure and backroom to build and develop "the project/plan" for long term sustainability.  He did mention plenty of times about sport science and the further development of those at the difficult 18-21 phase, players like Wright, Clifton, Venney.  
JF initially also referred to the plan , long term, etc at initial appointment....which then by the time Bignot was sacked and Slade appointed, had turned into getting ready for promotion push this season and not in the long term.
There was in the middle that slightly awkward moment at the fans forum where they sniped at each other on the subject of fitness/sports science....was that the moment the cracks appeared and MB's future at the BP was sealed ?







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Yes because he knows all about the ongoings at an obscure league 2 club. Most GTFC fans will know more about why Bignot was sacked than Ray Parlour. I think the general feeling amongst fans was shock but at the same time we knew it was coming


Ray knows more about how football clubs are run than you or ever will. Since we became neighbours then friends, he has taken a lot of interest in GTFC, and could not get his head around the circumstances leading to Bignot 's departure
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