Marcus just called

He's checking on his Mum

The old girl next door told me there was a article about him in the sun today,

Saying he should not have been sacked because he did nothing wrong,

Has anybody read it ?

She did offer to loan me the paper but I refused.

I've seen the article (I don't read The Sun though!) and he's calling for a "manager window" whereby managers can only be hired and fired at certain times. He claimed he was getting results but still got sacked so I'm a bit bemused that he thinks 4/5 goal drubbings plus numerous other poor performances counts as getting the results. The idea is idiotic as well, if a manager loses the dressing room (cliche but it's true) you'd be screwed because you'd be stuck with him.

He says that young managers aren't getting the opportunities to develop before getting sacked but I'd argue that the good ones don't get sacked. There are plenty of opportunities for English managers in the FL, it's hardly full of foreigners like the PL and there's equally plenty of coaches in L2 who are within 3/4 years of age as Bignot. Younger or same aged managers as Bignot in L2 currently: Darren Sarll, Darren Way, Shaun Derry, Jim Bentley, Derek Adams, Nathan Jones, Gareth Ainsworth, Paul Tisdale, Darren Ferguson, John McGreal and Gary Bowyer. That list doesn't include the six who are younger who have been employed less than 6 months. This means more than half of L2 managers are younger or the same age as him suggesting that he doesn't really have a valid point. Sorry MB, the harsh truth is you just weren't up to it.

I'm not so sure he wasn't up to it myself. I think he just needed reigning in a bit and some guidance because i think he has something about him. Time will tell of course and he'll be wiser for his time here.

The only thing he did wrong was not communicate to the players his plans.  His remit when taking over, was to ensure league status.  He did this, then he started to tinker, seeing where players played, put them out of their comfort zone to see how they coped.

So I can see where he is coming from, but he went about it the wrong way

We finished 8 points off the playoffs, he spent the first three months of the year experimenting and turning a very well organised team in to 11 guys who didnt have a clue , and squandered/gave up on the chances of making the play offs very early on. He bought WAY too many new players in,  randomly played our 3rd choice left back in centre midfield against top of the table, and is now bitching in the national news about having done nothing wrong - not a man to have as manager, full stop.

Quoted from 935

We finished 8 points off the playoffs, he spent the first three months of the year experimenting and turning a very well organised team in to 11 guys who didnt have a clue , and squandered/gave up on the chances of making the play offs very early on. He bought WAY too many new players in,  randomly played our 3rd choice left back in centre midfield against top of the table, and is now bitching in the national news about having done nothing wrong - not a man to have as manager, full stop.

This.

Quoted from 935

We finished 8 points off the playoffs, he spent the first three months of the year experimenting and turning a very well organised team in to 11 guys who didnt have a clue , and squandered/gave up on the chances of making the play offs very early on. He bought WAY too many new players in,  randomly played our 3rd choice left back in centre midfield against top of the table, and is now bitching in the national news about having done nothing wrong - not a man to have as manager, full stop.

I'd like to add that he utter alienated the fans with his persistent balderdash, it wasn't surprising the players were as confused as us!

Quoted from Tangerine Chris

The only thing he did wrong was not communicate to the players his plans.  His remit when taking over, was to ensure league status.  He did this, then he started to tinker, seeing where players played, put them out of their comfort zone to see how they coped.

So I can see where he is coming from, but he went about it the wrong way

He started tinkering well before we were safe. There never seemed to be any rhyme or reason to his changes and they rarely seemed to make us perform better than in the previous game, usually the opposite. He also never made any particular tactical changes or subs during a game that changed it in our favour. The game that will always stand out for me because it made me realise he didn't have much clue tactically was the away game at Stevenage. By the end we had four strikers on the pitch, with our main goalscorer seemingly dropping deep. There was no coherent or obvious plan as to how we were going to get the ball into areas for the multitude of strikers to attack and I think we managed one shot in the ten minutes where we were chasing a game and had four strikers on the pitch. Awful.

As for failing to communicate with his players, is that not one of the cornerstones of good management? If you can't get your ideas across and have your instructions simple enough for others to follow and implement then you are never going to make that idea a success. If his interviews are anything to go by then there is no wonder the players didn't understand. Talked a lot but said little. I think after a few weeks of trying to decipher what was actually meaningful, I'd have given up listening if I were a player. There is only so much waffle and bluster that an individual can take.

The difference with players and managers is,

You can drop a player if he is not doing a good job,

BUT

What do you do with a manager who is not doing a good job ?

So a managers window would not work,

I too am not sure if Marcus would have got it right in the end, I think he tried to do too much too soon,

I am sure he has learnt his lesson and will be a success somewhere.

There's so much about MB's tenure that doesn't make sense.

I think there's a good manager in there, but he was too experimental in his approach. He changed too much too soon for fear of missing out on his transfer targets in the summer.

I can sort of see things from his view - in that all his signings were sanctioned by the board, but if the board had reservations over his approach they could've addressed them while he was trying to sign his 10th central midfielder.

He upset the senior players, who were an important part of the side. He brought in too many players, failed in releasing or loaning out others to make way, and so I imagine the wage budget was under immense strain.

And the only loan players he was successful in sending away were the wingers we craved.

It takes a certain quality to get a team into the National League on a shoestring budget, so that's why I think he'll succeed somewhere, eventually.

Quoted from grimsby pete

The old girl next door told me there was a article about him in the sun today,

Saying he should not have been sacked because he did nothing wrong,

Has anybody read it ?

She did offer to loan me the paper but I refused.

Bullshite Pete- you get the Sun like everybody else on the Fishy except me

Quoted from Tangerine Chris

The only thing he did wrong was not communicate to the players his plans.  His remit when taking over, was to ensure league status.  He did this, then he started to tinker, seeing where players played, put them out of their comfort zone to see how they coped.

So I can see where he is coming from, but he went about it the wrong way

Complete balderdash!!!

There was much more wrong than that including issues at the training ground and the huge costs to his transfer business when he failed to get even close to balancing the books despite promising that he could get players off the wage bill.
roll all these up and you start to get the idea that communication and results alone where not the only factor

He was taking training sessions with one hand on his phone looking at training drills , the older guys questioned this and said what the fuckk is going on.  Marcus got Mardy with them hence the strange selections by this point the players basically complained to fenty I assume. Nice guy just not ready for a big club like ours , Solihull more is level

Any link to this interview?

Quoted from mariner91

He started tinkering well before we were safe. There never seemed to be any rhyme or reason to his changes and they rarely seemed to make us perform better than in the previous game, usually the opposite. He also never made any particular tactical changes or subs during a game that changed it in our favour. The game that will always stand out for me because it made me realise he didn't have much clue tactically was the away game at Stevenage. By the end we had four strikers on the pitch, with our main goalscorer seemingly dropping deep. There was no coherent or obvious plan as to how we were going to get the ball into areas for the multitude of strikers to attack and I think we managed one shot in the ten minutes where we were chasing a game and had four strikers on the pitch. Awful.

As for failing to communicate with his players, is that not one of the cornerstones of good management? If you can't get your ideas across and have your instructions simple enough for others to follow and implement then you are never going to make that idea a success. If his interviews are anything to go by then there is no wonder the players didn't understand. Talked a lot but said little. I think after a few weeks of trying to decipher what was actually meaningful, I'd have given up listening if I were a player. There is only so much waffle and bluster that an individual can take.

However, three weeks prior to that we went to Carlisle and he totally tactically out thought Curle with the swap to 3 at the back which confused them more than us and we all lauded him as a tactical genius. Funny how things change isn't it?

Cleary lots of issues and gaffes in the media, Coaching/training, selection, games plans, imports and exports (lack of) but the big thing for me was it appears that he thought he could behave in the same manner with experienced full time pros some of who had been around the block and who's livelihoods depend on playing as he could with part time "plumbers and postmen" who play for enjoyment or as a second income supplement.    

I always thought he came across as someone who was trying to be what he thought we wanted to see rather than himself e.g. phrases like "The B.P". I hope he gets another decent job and does not repeat the mistakes he made at GTFC if he can avoid doing that I am sure he'll have a decent FL/NL career somewhere.    

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However, three weeks prior to that we went to Carlisle and he totally tactically out thought Curle with the swap to 3 at the back which confused them more than us and we all lauded him as a tactical genius. Funny how things change isn't it?

Clearly the element of surprise in action - worked that time but from what I read on here after that the opposition managers were onto it and exposed us out wide when the fullbacks/wingbacks pushed up
One swallow doesn't make a summer (or a drunk)

He has got right under my skin. Early on it didn't seem right, and if this article is correct he is moaning he got unfairly sacked - wow even if it were true (which I don't think it was) that is hardly a first in football!!

When you think of Fenty's loyalty to managers in the past, it must have been very obvious to the Board that he had no idea what he was doing and dismissal was inevitable.

I will admit that we did get all important points on the board under him, but nobody can be that erratic and expect to keep their job. I think those media interviews which left us bemused tell their own story of a man completely confused and bewildered by what he had taken on. It is all very strange as he has been in football a long time, and you would have thought he would have had learned a lot and had a lot to offer but it seems we gave the job to a twin brother or alter ego.

Quoted from AussieMariner

Clearly the element of surprise in action - worked that time but from what I read on here after that the opposition managers were onto it and exposed us out wide when the fullbacks/wingbacks pushed up
One swallow doesn't make a summer (or a drunk)

But one swallow makes a girlfriend a keeper.

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Talked a lot but said little. I think after a few weeks of trying to decipher what was actually meaningful, I'd have given up listening if I were a player. There is only so much waffle and bluster that an individual can take.

TBH He removed my brains with his after match comments, washed them in a bucket and put them back leaving me absolutely clueless and aching.  never again I hope

But would he have been sacked if Russell Slade wasn't available. We will never know the answer to that question.

I certainly wish him well, even though he sometimes baffled me, like at Carlisle with a very strange line up and was the first manager to beat Carlisle at home. Hurst was also guilty of strange decisions so what do we know?

However, Russell Slade certainly seems a safer choice especially with his higher up contacts.

We've had a couple of batterings away from home under Slade as well to be fair and you can't say Cheltenham and Barnet are that good, not as good as Stevenage going on the run they put together at the time. Is Slade immune from the same criticisms as Bignot? Won 2, lost 2, drew 1 isn't exactly setting the world alight either.

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We've had a couple of batterings away from home under Slade as well to be fair and you can't say Cheltenham and Barnet are that good, not as good as Stevenage going on the run they put together at the time. Is Slade immune from the same criticisms as Bignot? Won 2, lost 2, drew 1 isn't exactly setting the world alight either.

And how many of that team did Slade bring in exactly ??

Quoted from ginnywings

We've had a couple of batterings away from home under Slade as well to be fair and you can't say Cheltenham and Barnet are that good, not as good as Stevenage going on the run they put together at the time. Is Slade immune from the same criticisms as Bignot? Won 2, lost 2, drew 1 isn't exactly setting the world alight either.

Let him pick players that he wants before we start all that.

Quoted from ginnywings

We've had a couple of batterings away from home under Slade as well to be fair and you can't say Cheltenham and Barnet are that good, not as good as Stevenage going on the run they put together at the time. Is Slade immune from the same criticisms as Bignot? Won 2, lost 2, drew 1 isn't exactly setting the world alight either.

Did he sell you a dodgy motor, made amorous advances towards Mrs Ginny or does his cat sh1t on your lawn each morning? Not sure what it is but you really don't rate him do you?

Quoted from Civvy at last

And how many of that team did Slade bring in exactly ??

None but i don't see the relevance if they both had the same tools to work with. All three managers this season have averaged around 1.5 points per game, yet Bignot is being portrayed as the pantomime villain. Yeah, we were sh1te in some games but that was under all 3 managers. Good performances followed by bad ones, the epitome of mid table.

Not that it matters now.

There's been a noticeable difference in standards at home though which will please the board as that's where we'll make any money to pay for incomings.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Did he sell you a dodgy motor, made amorous advances towards Mrs Ginny or does his cat sh1t on your lawn each morning? Not sure what it is but you really don't rate him do you?

It's just for balance really. I'm not dissing Slade, just pointing out that his record is pretty much the same as the other 2 so far. What he does going forward is unknown at this point and i'll admit that he is as good a manager as we could have hoped for once the decision to remove Bignot was made.

Quoted from LH

There's been a noticeable difference in standards at home though which will please the board as that's where we'll make any money to pay for incomings.

Agreed on that. The games at BP have been a lot better.

Quoted from ginnywings

We've had a couple of batterings away from home under Slade as well to be fair and you can't say Cheltenham and Barnet are that good, not as good as Stevenage going on the run they put together at the time. Is Slade immune from the same criticisms as Bignot? Won 2, lost 2, drew 1 isn't exactly setting the world alight either.

Stevenage had won 1 game in their last 6 when we played them, they weren't in the middle of a good run and were 14th in the table after beating us. I'd hardly call a 2-1 loss to Cheltenham a "battering", it certainly can't be compared to Crewe sticking 5 past us when they hadn't won for ten games and gained 3 points from the 30 available during that time. Barnet was a very poor performance. However, he's been here less than a month and has an incredibly lop-sided squad that is lacking in some key areas.

I recall you kept saying how Bignot needed time even when he'd been here for a few months and we were actually getting hammered by four or five goals. So I find it odd that you believe a manager who's had five games, no transfer window and a fairly neutral start deserves the same criticisms that you thought were unfairly aimed at Bignot. For the record, after five games Bignot had got 5 points and Slade has got 7 so really not much to choose from. However, the three home performances have actually been pretty good, in fact I'd say they've been very good when you take into account that Plymouth were playing for the league title. Under Bignot how many genuinely good performances could you name? By my reckoning we actually played well away at Plymouth, away at Carlisle, away at Blackpool, home to Mansfield and possibly away at Orient but even there a team of teenagers who've lost to nearly everyone were better than us for much of the first half. Five good performances from 26 games is pretty shite whichever way you look at it. Slade has managed three from five games already with no signings of his own and less time in charge.

I realise you are not a fan of Slade but in my opinion, he is the much safer and better option to rebuild this unbalanced squad and to take us forward. There was nothing that MB did in his time here that gave me any encouragement that he had what it takes to improve things.

Quoted from ginnywings

None but i don't see the relevance if they both had the same tools to work with. All three managers this season have averaged around 1.5 points per game, yet Bignot is being portrayed as the pantomime villain. Yeah, we were sh1te in some games but that was under all 3 managers. Good performances followed by bad ones, the epitome of mid table.

Not that it matters now.

It could be argued that......

- Hurst had a "return to L2 budget after 6 years in tin pot" based upon 4500 max per week at BP to work with.

- Bignot had a stack of cash from us actually getting in excess of 4500 per week at "The BP" for a couple of months before the Jan window and Omar's departure.  

- Slade inherited the fall out of both of the above.

People can choose who gad the most to work with and delivered the least.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

- Bignot had a stack of cash from us actually getting in excess of 4500 per week at "The BP" for a couple of months before the Jan window and Omar's departure.  

How did Bignot spend the stack of cash from Bogle's departure that came 10 mins before the transfer window closed?

I'm not really dissing Slade and i don't think he is a bad manager, he's not. I wasn't a fan of his playing style last time but when you are winning, it's easy to overlook. I am just sticking up a bit for Bignot, who i feel was hung out to dry a bit. Lies, damned lies and statistics as they say. Everyone uses them to back up their argument.

As i say, it doesn't really matter now and as always, i'm a hundred per cent behind the manager at BP, whoever that happens to be at the time.

Let's get some new signings on board and give us something else to talk about.

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How did Bignot spend the stack of cash from Bogle's departure that came 10 mins before the transfer window closed?

Read it back I said the cash was from Bogle and attendances before and during the window.

Gate money - Clements, Yosef, Gunning, Asante, Osborne

Omar leaving -  Jones (fee and wage)  Dyson (wage) and Maxwell (wage) on the final day

Add to that pre Omar a new deal for Andy Warrington, the appointment of Gary (I'll set the cones out boss) Whilde and the money set aside for a S&C coach who wasn't available until the new year.

All confirmed by MB & JF in various bits in the media  before ad after MB's sacking

I went to that game at Stevenage and we were awful. We 'only' lost 2-0, but Stevenage were doing absolutely nothing at the time and we made them look like world beaters.

We looked totally clueless in the first half - especially going forward. I thought MB would change it at half time but if anything we got worse in the second.

If I'm honest, that's when I first began worrying about the future under MB.

I then went to the Crewe game, which obviously gave me further concerns. Still, I've never been one to call for the manager's head early, and like people have said, we'd keep picking up points here and there.

That's when I turned to blind faith! I presumed that he'd know more than me about football, and that he'd turn it around. We were safe from relegation and I was willing to give him the summer to see what he could build.

We'll never know if he'd have been able to take us forward, but based purely on what we saw - and what we know Slade can do - I think we're in a better position today than we'd have been with MB still in charge.

Besides other material failings, Bignot put too much credence on what the fans thought - and what he thought of the fans.

MB was on Talk Sport this afternoon banging the drum about the "managers transfer window" thing, funny that he never mentioned it when he was working.

He went on to paint a picture with H&J that he was hard done by stating "I lost my leading goal scorer Omar Bogle and keeper Dean Henderson which did not help things". Then went on to say that when he left we where 14th and we finished 14th and that "in the last 5 months he has learnt a lot about bard rom politics"..

Typical flannel forgetting to mention when he was recruited we sat (possibly falsely) 7th, left us with 30 odd pros and through Hendo under a bus in the media... etc.. etc.. etc...

On a day when we have said farewell to Dis who has excellent integrity I just though it was very ironic.        

Quoted from Civvy at last

And how many of that team did Slade bring in exactly ??

MB inherited PHs' squad as well though and that included Davies ( past his best), Summerfield, Berrett, Tombola ( from 2 levels lower ). To MBs' defence his brief was to maintain our league status and build for the future. He openly admitted that if he was going to be judged purely on the performances for the rest of the season then he wouldn't have brought in the players that he did ( Clements,  Jones and Osbourne ). Yes, a lot of his selections were baffling to us and the performances were dire at times but he had a long term plan that he eventually wasn't allowed to put into place. None of us know what squad he would have finally ended up with for next seasons campaign but it's purely arbitrary now because he's gone.
I'll openly admit I didn't want RS back but he will get my support because he is our manager. Remember though that RS will have to achieve something next season ( or the season after if he hasn't already done a runner) that he has never done before and that is get a team promoted. PH has three to his name and two play-off finals plus a FA Trophy final appearance and even MB achieved a promotion at Solihul Moors.

Quoted from mariner91

He started tinkering well before we were safe. There never seemed to be any rhyme or reason to his changes and they rarely seemed to make us perform better than in the previous game, usually the opposite. He also never made any particular tactical changes or subs during a game that changed it in our favour. The game that will always stand out for me because it made me realise he didn't have much clue tactically was the away game at Stevenage. By the end we had four strikers on the pitch, with our main goalscorer seemingly dropping deep. There was no coherent or obvious plan as to how we were going to get the ball into areas for the multitude of strikers to attack and I think we managed one shot in the ten minutes where we were chasing a game and had four strikers on the pitch. Awful.

As for failing to communicate with his players, is that not one of the cornerstones of good management? If you can't get your ideas across and have your instructions simple enough for others to follow and implement then you are never going to make that idea a success. If his interviews are anything to go by then there is no wonder the players didn't understand. Talked a lot but said little. I think after a few weeks of trying to decipher what was actually meaningful, I'd have given up listening if I were a player. There is only so much waffle and bluster that an individual can take.

Have to say I agree 100% with this - I too was at that Stevenage game and had that awful sinking feeling long before 90 minutes were up that this bloke simply didn't have a clue. Whatever it was he tried to fill the players' minds with had the effect of leaving them completely baffled and bewildered.

I'm afraid that when I now think of Marcus, I can't help but think of the kid whose nose is pressed up against the sweetshop window with a big stupid grin on his face. A pity really, because I too had high hopes that he would take our club forward...in reality he took it backward and it is now left to Mr Slade to disentangle the mess which was left behind.

The trouble with bullsh!tters is they never know when to shut the feck up and ultimately they get found out!.Bigobs ego is far greater than his capabilities otherwise he would still be at town.Sadly if he had played Diz more regularly he might just have gained another season instead of being sacrificed for others with an ongoing contract.

Quoted from A Brace Of Tees

Have to say I agree 100% with this - I too was at that Stevenage game and had that awful sinking feeling long before 90 minutes were up that this bloke simply didn't have a clue. Whatever it was he tried to fill the players' minds with had the effect of leaving them completely baffled and bewildered.

I'm afraid that when I now think of Marcus, I can't help but think of the kid whose nose is pressed up against the sweetshop window with a big stupid grin on his face. A pity really, because I too had high hopes that he would take our club forward...in reality he took it backward and it is now left to Mr Slade to disentangle the mess which was left behind.

Agree, I will never forget the way he treated Gowling GTFC through and through, and his silly adoration of anything Gunning, IMO he`s a chapter that should have been left unwritten.

Quoted from rancido

MB inherited PHs' squad as well though and that included Davies ( past his best), Summerfield, Berrett, Tombola ( from 2 levels lower ). To MBs' defence his brief was to maintain our league status and build for the future. He openly admitted that if he was going to be judged purely on the performances for the rest of the season then he wouldn't have brought in the players that he did ( Clements,  Jones and Osbourne ). Yes, a lot of his selections were baffling to us and the performances were dire at times but he had a long term plan that he eventually wasn't allowed to put into place. None of us know what squad he would have finally ended up with for next seasons campaign but it's purely arbitrary now because he's gone.
I'll openly admit I didn't want RS back but he will get my support because he is our manager. Remember though that RS will have to achieve something next season ( or the season after if he hasn't already done a runner) that he has never done before and that is get a team promoted. PH has three to his name and two play-off finals plus a FA Trophy final appearance and even MB achieved a promotion at Solihul Moors.

Plan Z would that have been, thank f--k he was never given the chance, absolutely clueless regarding tactics, but could wear an England shirt for bullsh1t

Gowling GTFC through and through  

Quoted from ginnywings

I'm not really dissing Slade and i don't think he is a bad manager, he's not. I wasn't a fan of his playing style last time but when you are winning, it's easy to overlook. I am just sticking up a bit for Bignot, who i feel was hung out to dry a bit. Lies, damned lies and statistics as they say. Everyone uses them to back up their argument.

As i say, it doesn't really matter now and as always, i'm a hundred per cent behind the manager at BP, whoever that happens to be at the time.

Let's get some new signings on board and give us something else to talk about.

Na! truth will out one day, reference the Gowling/Henderson affair, until it does (if ever) lets just say Bye bye Marcus

Quoted from Grantley

Gowling GTFC through and through  

Maybe not through and through. But far more than the whinging brummie tw@t that was so far out of his depth it was unbelievable, and treated some players like sh1t whilst saying as an ex-footballer he was a players manager.  Showing his true colours now though.  So glad we got rid of MB before he could do serious damage.  

MB is winging still after leaving the club because his ego cannot accept any failure.

I likes his positivity when he came but there was clearly more than just team performances involved in his departure.

Seems to me significant that he hasn't yet picked up another job or been linked to one.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I likes his positivity when he came but there was clearly more than just team performances involved in his departure.

Seems to me significant that he hasn't yet picked up another job or been linked to one.

I dont think bitching about former employers in the sun, or recognition of the fact he made mistakes... "i dont know why i was sacked" does not go down well with future employers... The more he opens his mouth, the more one realises what a chancer he is.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I likes his positivity when he came but there was clearly more than just team performances involved in his departure.

Seems to me significant that he hasn't yet picked up another job or been linked to one.

But he will have picked up 6 months salary from his rolling contract and the season has only just finished. He will get another post and probably Conference top level.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

MB is winging still after leaving the club because his ego cannot accept any failure.

I'd suggest that's needed in a manager. If we had seen another club sacking Bignot in that situation we would have called them crazy. Whether it was the right decision or not now doesn't really matter, I don't see why we need a long thread knocking him, move on.

The thread is perpetuating possibly on the back of his marketing campaign in the media  to get himself another job and the basis of that campaign is one sided spin on why he was sacked. Yesterday on Talk Sport being a classic example of using guilable presenters to get the sympathy vote with listeners

Football managers sacked is part and parcel of the job.  Few managers winge like MB has done so.

I am sure he will get another job, he talks a great game and people will be taken in by it. Our board were and the majority on here too if they are honest.

To be fair to Fenty probably got taken in like we all did he talked the talk and gave us what we wanted to hear. Even in defeat he somehow made you feel he was one of us, knew what he was doing and felt the same ambition to get into the play offs.

Truth was he was constantly experimenting with strange formations and systems so much so the players confidence in their own abilities were at breaking point. Players being dropped for no good reason Gunning being played as a extra defender just in the way??

Danny Andrew expected to run the flank on his own?? No balance or shape at all.

Teams were exploiting this and cashing in big time.

Hope he uses this as a learning curve.

Quoted from rancido

But he will have picked up 6 months salary from his rolling contract and the season has only just finished. He will get another post and probably Conference top level.

Collecting money owed isn't the same as being the boss getting ready for a close season though. Seeing RS doing what he anticipated doing will have hurt MB's pride and he will be missing not being connected with any club. It surprises me not to have seen any rumours about a new job and that does reinforce the idea that he has upset the applecart in a big way.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

To be fair to Fenty probably got taken in like we all did he talked the talk and gave us what we wanted to hear. Even in defeat he somehow made you feel he was one of us, knew what he was doing and felt the same ambition to get into the play offs.

Truth was he was constantly experimenting with strange formations and systems so much so the players confidence in their own abilities were at breaking point. Players being dropped for no good reason Gunning being played as a extra defender just in the way??

Danny Andrew expected to run the flank on his own?? No balance or shape at all.

Teams were exploiting this and cashing in big time.

Hope he uses this as a learning curve.

His first few interviews were music to the ears of most Town fans trouble was Months later he was spouting the same BS and nearly everyone saw through him.Talked the talk and here endeth the lesson.....MB BULSH1TTER

Looks like Marcus has got a new job as a Labour Part spin doctor.

More money for NHS, abolishing hospital parking charge and university fees, then add on nationalising the energy company's and trains. Just what people want to hear!

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More money for NHS, abolishing hospital parking charge and university fees, then add on nationalising the energy company's and trains. Just what people want to hear!

Too right. And the opposite of what Fenty wants to hear...no wonder they fell out.

Think there was more to Bignot's sacking than was made out. We all know he wanted to improve the training facilities and the youth set up. But then that costs money and I think that someone wasn't prepared to give him the backing that he wanted...

When JF came out and mentioned the "31 players on the books" it suggested to me that he had promised to get bodies out of the bulding. He could never get Berrett, Gowling, McAllister etc out. A lot of the time with JF it does come down to money and if he's paying 31 players say an average of £800 per week, that Omar money will evaporate very quickly.

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Think there was more to Bignot's sacking than was made out. We all know he wanted to improve the training facilities and the youth set up. But then that costs money and I think that someone wasn't prepared to give him the backing that he wanted...

Oh there was definitely things that can't be discussed in public.
But that's for Marcus Bigmouths benefit.

Obviously his friends and family may not agree 😉 !!!

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When JF came out and mentioned the "31 players on the books" it suggested to me that he had promised to get bodies out of the bulding. He could never get Berrett, Gowling, McAllister etc out. A lot of the time with JF it does come down to money and if he's paying 31 players say an average of £800 per week, that Omar money will evaporate very quickly.

JF confirmed on RH that a few days after that one of the main reasons for moving MB on was the 31 pro's on the books.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

JF confirmed on RH that a few days after that one of the main reasons for moving MB on was the 31 pro's on the books.

Nothing to do with Henderson or The Captain's Table then.

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Nothing to do with Henderson or The Captain's Table then.

Captains Table?

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Captains Table?

Allegedly there was a robust exchange of views, conducted at very close range!! Allegedly obviously
Mind you there was a lot of alleged episodes with mb. The first training session which was likened to the standard of an under 11 team allegedly, the training sessions which were conducted with constant reference to his mobile phone allegedly, the comments made in private being diametrically opposed by the public statements allegedly, the pinning of Henderson up against the coach allegedly etc etc etc

I recall him saying all 3 youngsters were signed up for next season but here we are at the end of the season and only 1 is signed up!

The James McKeown fiasco on Humberside wouldn't have happened if it had been dealt with correctly. There were too many contradictory statements in the media made by players for them to be false and that told me Bignot was just telling us what he thought we wanted to hear.

When you look at the final league position and consider that it was our first season back it does seem harsh but it is when you scratch beneath the surface it becomes understandable. Giving up on the play offs when we can mathematically reach them lost the fans and probably lost the players and board. The contradictory statements and lack of balance we were left with after his January business clearly contributed to his sacking.

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Captains Table?

Restaurant on Kingsway seafront.

Ahh  so everything I was told about mb was true then ... my source is very good then but then he would be .

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Ahh  so everything I was told about mb was true then ... my source is very good then but then he would be .

i've showed you mine, now you show me yours fleabag.........
what (allegedly of course) had you been told

"All will be revealed in due course..."

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"All will be revealed in due course..."

I do hope so. I really do.

I'm sure that a man with the confidence of Marcus Bullshit would go for unfair dismissal if he was on a winner.  Then all aspects of his dismissal would be examined.
HOPEFULLY ON A PUBLIC FORUM.

My money is nothing happening.

Just out of interest Grants what do you think ?????

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I do hope so. I really do.

I'm sure that a man with the confidence of Marcus Bullshit would go for unfair dismissal if he was on a winner.  Then all aspects of his dismissal would be examined.
HOPEFULLY ON A PUBLIC FORUM.

My money is nothing happening.

Just out of interest Grants what do you think ?????

He can't go for unfair dismissal as he had been in the job for under 2 years, unless he can prove discrimination on the grounds of race, age or sexuality or if the club had committed a serious breach of H&S that had put him at risk. Also if it went to tribunal it would where at all possible (big ask these days) be kept confidential until a decision had been reached................Then again someone that self absorbed could come out with anything.

I think that the step up to the FL came at the wrong time. If it had been in the summer and he'd had time to plan and learn what running a professional team was like, he'd have been a lot more successful. He's not entirely blameless. He got ahead of himself about player contracts and who'd signed, who hadn't. My thinking is that Fenty had said yes to Marcus on a number of issues, like the contracts of Clifton, the poor facilities, the YT but never went through with any of it because of the money involved. Bignot should've just kept quiet.

He has the ambition and potential to become a decent manager but there are definitely things he needs to work on.

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I think that the step up to the FL came at the wrong time. If it had been in the summer and he'd had time to plan and learn what running a professional team was like, he'd have been a lot more successful. He's not entirely blameless. He got ahead of himself about player contracts and who'd signed, who hadn't. My thinking is that Fenty had said yes to Marcus on a number of issues, like the contracts of Clifton, the poor facilities, the YT but never went through with any of it because of the money involved. Bignot should've just kept quiet.

He has the ambition and potential to become a decent manager but there are definitely things he needs to work on.

But............ allowed him to buy a load of players, recruit Gary  (I'll set the cones out) Whilde and contrary to what MB said set aside the money for a S&C coach. Facilities? well the season before whilst we where in the NL quite a few GTFC players came out and said they where better than some FL clubs. Oh yeah there was the thing about the pitch at Cheapside too, moaning about the condition of it but not accepting numerous offers to use other pitches in the town reeked of excuse making.

The biggest problem with Marcus is that he is very arrogant and expected players to win his respect without him attempting to win theirs, in a successful working relationship things work really well with mutual respect which is won by both sides. Check back on all his numerous sound bytes when did he ever accept accountability for any of his actions or the team performance?  

He certainly has a lot to work on based upon  his time at GTFC he could start on player engagement, tactics, selection policy, game plans, training sessions (apparently), net transfer, defending players in the media and not coming out with total bollox when asked a straight question. Work on that and he may fulfil his potential.    

Probably much truth in both the last 2 posts.its almost as though he was a child let loose in a sweet and chocolate emporium. He changed too much too quickly when there was no need and he was probably out of his depth having progressed too far too quickly., at that's from someone who thought it was the perfect appointment. I still think he will make a decent manager, he just needs a halfway house, somewhere like barrow or Gateshead etc where he can make his mark without the scrutiny he was under at town. Looking back it was too big a difference from being an occasional paragraph in the Birmingham evening mail to being the daily lead story on the back page of the get and he just couldn't cope