Crucial meeting

Between the management and the board to agree future plan regarding players and other staff for next season is taking place today. Existing players futures will be decided and possible targets agreed. We are in your hands. Any flies on the wall we might know?

I would hope not.
If Town get this right. RS will inform the playing staff tomorrow.
Then hopefully the club will let us know who is definitely staying, who is going and who is in negotiations.

I m still fascinated by RS's comments regarding the senior players, Davies, Collins, Pearson, and Disley... He sounded on the interview with JT as if none would be staying... Be a bit harsh on Pearson I think...

Quoted from oldun

Between the management and the board to agree future plan regarding players and other staff for next season is taking place today. Existing players futures will be decided and possible targets agreed. We are in your hands. Any flies on the wall we might know?

I hope the board have no input in respect of playing targets tbh. Agree the budget, even agree a ceiling for any individual but the choice has to be that of the footballing management alone imo

Quoted from 935

I m still fascinated by RS's comments regarding the senior players, Davies, Collins, Pearson, and Disley... He sounded on the interview with JT as if none would be staying... Be a bit harsh on Pearson I think...

Dont recall him mentioning names when he referred to "senior" players but it was associated with the Disley question that was put before it.
RS has a model sized squad, formation and style in his head...as for the first time in what seems like years we have players tied in for next season already, so it would be reasonable to assume that RS will have to let go of as many as he isnt sure about, of the out of contract players, to be able to bring in his own choices for his vision.   I personally think he was referring to Disley, Davies and Gowling when he referred to senior players potentially leaving, Collins potentially but i would hope not.
He may have some wriggle room with the likes of Summerfield and Rhys Browne who may ask to leave, Rhys Browne as much as i would have liked to see him in a Town shirt i just dont think his head or heart will be here so no point in trying to force him.

All will become clear Tuesday when players start tweeting or Weds when the club release the list.  

I do however think that the budget he will be given wont be a big one due to the board getting burnt a bit by MB in January, i imagine the first team squad to be down to around 21/22 with a couple of youths in tow and then some loan top ups.

Quoted from moosey_club

I do however think that the budget he will be given wont be a big one due to the board getting burnt a bit by MB in January, i imagine the first team squad to be down to around 21/22 with a couple of youths in tow and then some loan top ups.

Did MB really spend THAT much in January though? Think people have been getting a bit carried away with this notion. We sold Omar for a lot of money.

We paid fees for a few players and you have to consider the greatly increased wage bill since then as well. I'd imagine a hefty chunk of the Bogle money is long gone.

Quoted from moosey_club

Dont recall him mentioning names when he referred to "senior" players but it was associated with the Disley question that was put before it.
RS has a model sized squad, formation and style in his head...as for the first time in what seems like years we have players tied in for next season already, so it would be reasonable to assume that RS will have to let go of as many as he isnt sure about, of the out of contract players, to be able to bring in his own choices for his vision.   I personally think he was referring to Disley, Davies and Gowling when he referred to senior players potentially leaving, Collins potentially but i would hope not.
He may have some wriggle room with the likes of Summerfield and Rhys Browne who may ask to leave, Rhys Browne as much as i would have liked to see him in a Town shirt i just dont think his head or heart will be here so no point in trying to force him.

All will become clear Tuesday when players start tweeting or Weds when the club release the list.  

I do however think that the budget he will be given wont be a big one due to the board getting burnt a bit by MB in January, i imagine the first team squad to be down to around 21/22 with a couple of youths in tow and then some loan top ups.

I understand ( but I won't reveal the source for obvious reasons ) that RS has been promised a very large one-off budget to make a determined promotion push next season.

I heard that on Sat too. Need to be in league 1 to coincide with the new stadium being built.

Quoted from rancido

I understand ( but I won't reveal the source for obvious reasons ) that RS has been promised a very large one-off budget to make a determined promotion push next season.

How much of that will go on paying off players under contract??

Quoted from 935

How much of that will go on paying off players under contract??

That's up to RS to decide. He is given his budget and how he spends it is up to him but obviously he has to deliver the goods.

Quoted from 935

I m still fascinated by RS's comments regarding the senior players, Davies, Collins, Pearson, and Disley... He sounded on the interview with JT as if none would be staying... Be a bit harsh on Pearson I think...

Always admired Pearsons attitude .Hope he gets another deal

Coincide with new ground being built?? Didn't realise that was remotely close..

The board have no input to who stays or goes. They decide the budget Slade is responsible for the players that he thinks we need, and it's up to him how the budget is spent to get them.

That is how is should be. Leave the manager to manage team affairs. There's a lot of big clubs that tell their manager who to sign and who to sell. They are all the ones that struggle,  like Newcastle for instance.

I still think there will be a decent budget to work to otherwise despite being out of work RS would have waited for another club to come in for him, especially after having his fingers burnt at Charlton and Coventry.

I think the only 3 pros out of deals who will be offered terms are Shaun, Danny Andrew and Danny Collins all of whom will "consider their options" Andrew will go, Shaun will sign and Collins? Well I'm 50/50. So that's goodbye to Dis, Josh and Gunning amongst a few others.  

Similar to what Moosey said RS will already know who he wants to keep and let go and who he thinks he can get a tune out of from who's left.

Could be a very interesting few weeks as it's been a long time since we have had an experienced FL manager (and assistant) with what you would expect is a large network of former clubs, scouts, agents and players. RS has a good reputation in the game and that could work to our advantage.    

If he has a special budget for one season he will be under pressure to deliver as if we going to 'overspend' it will be on the basis of we will have a better team capable of challenging for the playoffs over the season with increased attendances - unless we still have a chunk of Omars money to burn.

Dunno about Danny Andrew, but Shaun Pearson's highlights clip on you tube will impress a few clubs!

Quoted from hheh2

Danny Andrew is good

Looking at the clip on your signature maybe we have missed an opportunity for a wide left prospect all season

I think we may already have pushed the boat out a bit to get RS and PW here in the first place. When asked about RS contract at the press conference, JF said that it will remain private and he didn't do that with the previous 2 managers, both being on rolling 6 month deals.

I think there will be a big cull tomorrow and we could end up with 1 or even 0 of the team that got us out of non league less than a year ago. There is no standing still in football but my hunch is that we will go for quality over quantity and we have had a good average gate this season, plus we sold Bogle, so maybe a bit better budget than last year? We also need the types of signings that will get season tickets shifting.

Quoted from mimma

The board have no input to who stays or goes. They decide the budget Slade is responsible for the players that he thinks we need, and it's up to him how the budget is spent to get them.

That is how is should be. Leave the manager to manage team affairs. There's a lot of big clubs that tell their manager who to sign and who to sell. They are all the ones that struggle,  like Newcastle for instance.

thats worked out awfully for them hasnt it ?  

i think Orient would have been a better example  

Quoted from Balthazar Bullitt

Shaun Pearson's highlights clip on you tube will impress a few clubs!

Quoted from marinerjase

Coincide with new ground being built?? Didn't realise that was remotely close..

oh its definatley in this millenia*



















*unless something goes wrong  

Quoted from sam gy

Did MB really spend THAT much in January though? Think people have been getting a bit carried away with this notion. We sold Omar for a lot of money.

Fee's paid for Osbourne and Jones for certain , Dyson, Clements, Yussuf, Asante, Gunning  all brought in during MB's time as well with some of them possibly having a fee attached also.  
MB was very busy in his short spell which ultimately led to the board axing him as he didnt seem in control of the staff budget in proportion to on field improvement.
I am sure they will be slightly more reserved when it comes to RS's spending power and outline squad size.

Looks like Vose has probally played his last game for us.

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Quoted from mimma

The board have no input to who stays or goes. They decide the budget Slade is responsible for the players that he thinks we need, and it's up to him how the budget is spent to get them.

That is how is should be. Leave the manager to manage team affairs. There's a lot of big clubs that tell their manager who to sign and who to sell. They are all the ones that struggle, like Newcastle for instance.

I don;'t think Ashley has messed with Rafa - or likely too. Rafa was quoted as saying he's only ever met Ashley once - although they speak on the phone a lot.

If Ashley wants Toon in the EPL top 8, he needs Benitez to deliver that.

Same at BP, I think the club needs Slade's experience more than he needs Town, so the sensible thing would be to give him a budget, and let him get on with it.

It just seems 'too soon' to be saying goodbye to Dis or Pearson, given how in the last few games they have both been on the scoresheet.

Would love for them to have another season with the club.

Quoted from Rick12

Always admired Pearsons attitude .Hope he gets another deal

If Pearson goes I GO

Quoted from 140067

http://www.shropshirelive.com/2017/05/03/shrewsbury-town-ponder-move-for-grimsbys-zak-mills

Would Shrewsbury have to pay a fee for him?

Quoted from The Yard Dog

Would Shrewsbury have to pay a fee for him?

Grimsby Town signed Zak Mills on a two-year deal so yep.

Quoted from golfer

If Pearson goes I GO

I was told today, whilst golfing in Hull, that Pearson was being released & guy who told me said that was from a good source but refused to say who source was.

I certainly hope its incorrect as he is certainly worth a place in any League @ squad IMO

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

I was told today, whilst golfing in Hull, that Pearson was being released & guy who told me said that was from a good source but refused to say who source was.

I certainly hope its incorrect as he is certainly worth a place in any League @ squad IMO

The frustrating thing is that for most of the season we said we were lacking a left winger while all along he was in the team playing centre back.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

I was told today, whilst golfing in Hull, that Pearson was being released & guy who told me said that was from a good source but refused to say who source was.

I certainly hope its incorrect as he is certainly worth a place in any League @ squad IMO

Unless he thinks he can do better than Pearson and that would take some doing. If Marcus wasting the Omar money on Maxwell, Yussuf, Gunning and even Clements is no better than Summerfield or Berrett then it's a poor old do we can't retain Collins etc.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Unless he thinks he can do better than Pearson and that would take some doing. If Marcus wasting the Omar money on Maxwell, Yussuf, Gunning and even Clements is no better than Summerfield or Berrett then it's a poor old do we can't retain Collins etc.

I need a week oor so to work out what you mean by this 09

Quoted from Mariner_09

If Marcus wasting the Omar money on Maxwell, Yussuf, Gunning and even Clements

All signings made before Bogle was sold.

Sorry Herts, Am I suffering from Bignotitous! I'm merely suggesting if because Yussuf etc are contracted we are prevented from re-siging Pearson and Collins then it's a shame.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Sorry Herts, Am I suffering from Bignotitous! I'm merely suggesting if because Yussuf etc are contracted we are prevented from re-siging Pearson and Collins then it's a shame.

Not Slades fault though.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Sorry Herts, Am I suffering from Bignotitous! I'm merely suggesting if because Yussuf etc are contracted we are prevented from re-siging Pearson and Collins then it's a shame.

If they are not re-signed, i doubt it would be because we have players we are stuck with; more that he thinks he can do better. If he really wants them to stay, he will find a way, unless the players themselves want to move on.

What we have to ask ourselves is not if the players are good enough for League 2, but if they are good enough to get us into League 1 and be good enough to cut it in there as well?

Quoted from Mariner_09

Sorry Herts, Am I suffering from Bignotitous! I'm merely suggesting if because Yussuf etc are contracted we are prevented from re-siging Pearson and Collins then it's a shame.

I get it now mate, I think both will get offered terms  but I think like Andrew they will also have options elsewhere. As a great club man I would be gutted to see Shaun go, Andrew well it's inevitable I reckon Collins in reality only has one season left so would it be a complete disaster if we lost all 3?

I am afraid those who are not getting new contracts will be decided on financial grounds, not footballing grounds,hope I am wrong.

It'll be both won't it, plus one or two other aspects.

If Pearson is released them John fenty needs to explain why .  

Would not be very happy if Pearson goes.

Quoted from fleabag1970

If Pearson is released them John fenty needs to explain why .  

Why? It would be Russell Slade's decision.


I think it will be a tough day for some lads to be honest, I would imagine that you possibly sense  what's coming if the manager has been with you for a bit but I think it must be more uncertain as the manager in this case has only been around for under a month.

I wonder how long it will be before we see the new faces coming in, not long from what RS said on the wireless on Saturday after the game.

Yesterday a bloke I know who works in Cardiff who to be honest is more of an egg chaser told me we had agreed a deal with Peter Whittingham as he's been released by Cardiff, I thought he'd retired to be honest, seems a bit old to me.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Why? It would be Russell Slade's decision.


I think it will be a tough day for some lads to be honest, I would imagine that you possibly sense  what's coming if the manager has been with you for a bit but I think it must be more uncertain as the manager in this case has only been around for under a month.

I wonder how long it will be before we see the new faces coming in, not long from what RS said on the wireless on Saturday after the game.

Yesterday a bloke I know who works in Cardiff who to be honest is more of an egg chaser told me we had agreed a deal with Peter Whittingham as he's been released by Cardiff, I thought he'd retired to be honest, seems a bit old to me.

I would be amazed if that was true. He's their third highest scorer and got the most assists this season!

Quoted from fleabag1970

If Pearson is released them John fenty needs to explain why .  

Why does he? It's not John's call is it.

Quoted from mariner91

I would be amazed if that was true. He's their third highest scorer and got the most assists this season!

Yeah same, I think he was putting 2 and 2 together as I understand he's been released. I recognise the name and that he can play CM,LM,RM but don't know that much about him.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Why? It would be Russell Slade's decision.


I think it will be a tough day for some lads to be honest, I would imagine that you possibly sense  what's coming if the manager has been with you for a bit but I think it must be more uncertain as the manager in this case has only been around for under a month.

I wonder how long it will be before we see the new faces coming in, not long from what RS said on the wireless on Saturday after the game.

Yesterday a bloke I know who works in Cardiff who to be honest is more of an egg chaser told me we had agreed a deal with Peter Whittingham as he's been released by Cardiff, I thought he'd retired to be honest, seems a bit old to me.

The missus' family are very in the know at Cardiff and they are certain he has been offered a deal on reduced terms reflecting his age and the game time he will be getting. I've seen him play a fair few times this season and is still a quality player though.

Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner

The missus' family are very in the know at Cardiff and they are certain he has been offered a deal on reduced terms reflecting his age and the game time he will be getting. I've seen him play a fair few times this season and is still a quality player though.

I think L1 former first teamers are the best we could hope for to be honest and maybe some kids that Wilko has seen from the higher levels.

I have no idea the type of targets RS is after with so many players released.

The players that may get released.....well from my gut ferling is

Boyce
Gowling
Summerfield
Chambers
Berrett
Vernon
Davies
D Jones

With
Dizza , Collins and Pearson offered 1 year deals
Andrew offered 2 year deal.

That leaves us with

Mckeown
Mills
Pearson
Collins
Andrew
McAllister
Dizza
Osbourne
Jones
Browne
Bolarinwa
Asante

Quoted from Meza

I have no idea the type of targets RS is after with so many players released.

The players that may get released.....well from my gut ferling is

Boyce
Gowling
Summerfield
Chambers
Berrett
Vernon
Davies
D Jones

With
Dizza , Collins and Pearson offered 1 year deals
Andrew offered 2 year deal.

That leaves us with

Mckeown
Mills
Pearson
Collins
Andrew
McAllister
Dizza
Osbourne
Jones
Browne
Bolarinwa
Asante

Half of the players you think will get released are still under contract, so can't just be released.

Quoted from Tommy

Half of the players you think will get released are still under contract, so can't just be released.

Can be made available for transfer though which tells player he is not in plans for next season and hopefully allows both parties to get other deals sorted.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Can be made available for transfer though which tells player he is not in plans for next season and hopefully allows both parties to get other deals sorted.

Still means a pay off in 95% of instances and until such time as they have gone will  be included in the budget. Need to get those out the door before they can be replaced unlike in January!

Re players getting paid off it may be that similar to when a manager gets binned we may just pay a salary until a player gets another club.I actually think you will see a few put on the transfer list and eventually loaned out if they can't get a move.  

All the talk about certain players must get a new deal is because they are favourites for some or most of the fans,

BUT

Slade knows a vast amount of better players,

Are you saying you would rather say give Pearson a new contract or sign a much better player that would help us get promoted,

I like Pearson but if Slade gets a better player in I would understand his thinking,

Pearson would soon fix himself up with a new club because he is a good player.