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Don't believe that. JF does not move that fast.
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This actually sounds promising
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That's very quick if true. Suggests they've known for a while? Unless as a matter of normal business they have a list of candidates at all times?
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I really hope they don't rush into an appointment without due consideration and properly advertising the post. You never know who is going to apply. There are only about 100 professional football clubs in England. It's still one of the top football jobs in the country, even if we don't have a proper training pitch and a conditioning coach. Loads of ex-footballers would love to come here and it's quite rare to come to somewhere where the team are in a healthy position in the table when you get here.
To have a shortlist at this stage seems far too soon to me.
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Obviously known for longer than they let on what was about to transpire. The length of time between losing one manager and gaining another matters not one jot if it's the right appointment. If there is an outstanding candidate, why wait?
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Obviously known for longer than they let on what was about to transpire. The length of time between losing one manager and gaining another matters not one jot if it's the right appointment. If there is an outstanding candidate, why wait?
I remember Fenty saying there was "one outstanding candidate" before appointing Buckley III. He wasn't outstanding at the time at all, he had been out of work for a couple of years.He could still talk the talk which was what persuaded the board no doubt, but he had lost it as a manager even then. Had they spoken to more people they might not have made that mistake.
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I really hope they don't rush into an appointment without due consideration and properly advertising the post. You never know who is going to apply. There are only about 100 professional football clubs in England. It's still one of the top football jobs in the country, even if we don't have a proper training pitch and a conditioning coach. Loads of ex-footballers would love to come here and it's quite rare to come to somewhere where the team are in a healthy position in the table when you get here.
To have a shortlist at this stage seems far too soon to me.
Agree fully with this. I have no problem with the club having an idea of who is out there and who they could potentially get, but they should still give candidates a few days to get their applications in. You never know what sort of up and coming hotshot coach / manager might stick their name in out of leftfield.
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Interested to know who puts the shortlist together, whether it's just Fenty or includes all board members (including the Trust rep?)
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I remember Fenty saying there was "one outstanding candidate" before appointing Buckley III. He wasn't outstanding at the time at all, he had been out of work for a couple of years.He could still talk the talk which was what persuaded the board no doubt, but he had lost it as a manager even then. Had they spoken to more people they might not have made that mistake.
Fair enough but it's all a gamble anyway. Some managers click at a club and some don't. The new manager may be met with widespread approval and bomb (Mike Newell) or be roundly slated as the cheap option only to become a club legend like the aforementioned Buckley. I bet Adkins appointment at Scunny was met with more than raised eyebrows at the time.
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Had we not have been promoted PH would have been toast, probably some sort of fwd planning might have been carried out then on prospective targets to take his job, the favourites might have found employment since then but thats no problem-----ask Hurst
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Fair enough but it's all a gamble anyway. Some managers click at a club and some don't. The new manager may be met with widespread approval and bomb (Mike Newell) or be roundly slated as the cheap option only to become a club legend like the aforementioned Buckley.
I bet Adkins appointment at Scunny was met with more than raised eyebrows at the time.
Adkins had a good spell as caretaker, if I recall, and more or less gave the Scunny board no choice. I just don't want us to appoint an "outstanding candidate" from the small bubble of players and staff who have been at this club before and are known to the board. There's a much wider world out there and we could pull (say) a really big name looking for a first step on the management ladder, or someone wanting a route back in the game who wouldn't mind a big pay cut.
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Let's be honest, the last time there was excitement around a new manager was Newel look how that turned out?! We need to make sure we find someone who gives us stability and won't come in wanting to upset the apple cart too much. Madkins is my preferred choice he's been there done it at different levels bit surely out of our reach. Would I except someone without any experience, why not if they have the game pedigree? Hasslebank didn't do too bad at Burton after all. One thing for sure we shouldn't be looking at anyone within the club currently and/or been involved in the past. The board are clearly willing to give someone their chance as they did with Hurst and us fans need to support whoever it
Ps if fat boy Evans gets the job I will not be happy but I will give the scum bag the chance to get this team firing (unfortunately he's done it . many of times in the past but I know a couple of lads who have played for him and couldn't stand the bloke)
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Adkins had a good spell as caretaker, if I recall, and more or less gave the Scunny board no choice. I just don't want us to appoint an "outstanding candidate" from the small bubble of players and staff who have been at this club before and are known to the board. There's a much wider world out there and we could pull (say) a really big name looking for a first step on the management ladder, or someone wanting a route back in the game who wouldn't mind a big pay cut.
Whose saying the candidates are from from a small bubble of players and staff known to the board? We have no idea who they are.
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Surprised nobody had mentioned Slade yet!
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Never met JF but he strikes me as a town fan at heart and I therefore like him. Having said that his track record at PR and appointing managers is little short of a train crash and this process fills me with dread. If he went for a big risk like Marcus Bignot and it went wrong I could handle it, but not some journeyman like Trollope, Pennock et al. Equally if Adkins could be tempted I think everyone would wet their pants and if it went wrong we forgive. The Neil Woods warnings were in 6ft. neon signs on top of the main stand and he didnt see them from the Findus.
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Would like someone connected with Scunny to raid their larder for a change
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A sensible forward looking business often has contingency plans for the possibility of losing a key member of staff, with a potential shortlist of replacements.
This is true but what's the link to GTFC?
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Good on Fenty and the board if true. Was going to say earlier you should always keep your eye on the ball in regards with manager movement/out of work managers etc as you never know what'll happen in this game. A weeks a long time so to see we've been proactive about something makes a positive change.
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Whose saying the candidates are from from a small bubble of players and staff known to the board? We have no idea who they are.
Because only the bubble of people around the board have even had the time to apply? There's barely been chance to dust off the cv and memorise the big names in Town's squad ready for an interview. Plus past history. Groves, Rodger, Woods, Buckley all came from within the building at short notice.
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If this is true then even more reason why Hurst and Doig should have been nowhere near BP on Saturday.
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A sensible forward looking business often has contingency plans for the possibility of losing a key member of staff, with a potential shortlist of replacements.
Precisely what I was thinking.
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Begs the question why they were allowed to take the team on Saturday? That boring girl private Doig probably drained all of the enthusiasm out of the players pre match, there's no wonder they were excrement.
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lol we all thought Mike Newell was going to be a good manager.
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I imagine it's hard to get motivated when you know the people in charge are leaving, weird game,weird atmosphere and the most flat performance I've seen from the team so a couple of big reasons standing there or in Hurst's case sitting there for why that happened.
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Most employers usually have a succession plan" for key appointments I would imagine it is a "wish list" rather than a "short list" at this stage.
If there was a manager either in a job or out of work you would imagine their agent will already be trying to get hold of JF to see what the application process is and get their candidate in the running,
They need to throw this open and ensure they end up fishing in a bigger sea.
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Forgive the cynic in me but the Poll of who should be next manager had 6 names with 1 standout in the voting. Maybe thats why Sonik was on here at 3am this morning.
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Steve evans nigel adkins steve cotterill
Any chance you think these three could be on ?
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Not a chance for any of those three, I'd imagine.
They will all see themselves as 'Championship' managers (and that is the level where most of them have been playing their trade of late), so dropping two divisions to go to a smallish, remote east coast club without much money isn't very likely.
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Simon Weaver and John McDermott cannot be ruled out.
However, Simon has taken an age to get Harrogate near the top of their league despite having lots of cash.
Several ex-GTFC connections including the obvious one!
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Forgive the cynic in me but the Poll of who should be next manager had 6 names with 1 standout in the voting. Maybe thats why Sonik was on here at 3am this morning.
Hmmmm...you have to wonder
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What about Simon weaver and macca from Harrogate weavers dad is loaded
What has he achieved that would make him a credible candidate for a league 2 club with possible play off potential?
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I honestly think Adkins is pie in the sky Sean o Driscoll and Richard Kelly were fantastic at Doncaster and played some great stuff wouldn't be a bad shout
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Forgive the cynic in me but the Poll of who should be next manager had 6 names with 1 standout in the voting. Maybe thats why Sonik was on here at 3am this morning.
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A sensible forward looking business often has contingency plans for the possibility of losing a key member of staff, with a potential shortlist of replacements.
I think this is standard practice with most clubs now except when a club is taken over by foriegn buyers like the chinese hence them appointing the wrong people like Di Mateo and a few others. Town only have a manager on a short term contract so not to have a shorlist would be a poor reflection of their business acumen.
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I would like any manager that could achieve half of what little old Scunny have done in recent years; on course for 3 promotions to the Championship.
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I would like any manager that could achieve half of what little old Scunny have done in recent years; on course for 3 promotions to the Championship.
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Be nice if it was little old Grimsby who were the overachievers again
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Anyone hearing any names on this shortlist then
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lol we all thought Mike Newell was going to be a good manager.
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I would like any manager that could achieve half of what little old Scunny have done in recent years; on course for 3 promotions to the Championship.
So what about Russ Wilcox? Harshly sacked at Scunny while several key players were injured and given no funds or time at York. Very hard working, fairly local and thoroughly decent and popular guy wherever he was, while playing and managing. Good man manager although maybe a bit defensive, but then again so was Hurst. He has managed several of our current squad too. Probably not an exciting one for fans but Buckley and Hurst were not well received either. We could do worse I guess.
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Did we?
Obviously there are no archives from back then but I remember that several of us had seen Newell at the away game at Rotherham. It was reported on here and people were queuing up to say what a great appointment it would be. Still, well done 'arry for being the one to spot the disaster hidden around the corner Whilst we are on the subject had Social Media been around in the late 80s it would have made very upsetting reading for recently appointed GTFC manager Alan Buckley. The consensus of opinion as I remember it was that Town had taken leave of their senses appointing a manager who thought the future was bringing in players from non-league. Early results were nothing short of disastrous
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Just back two against the field , marcus bignot @16 to 1 , and danny cowley @10 to 1 , two up and coming and hungry managers .
I bet they aren't nearly as hungry as Evans.
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Wayne Burnett - thank you for '98 and all that. But, now is not the time to be gambling on an inexperienced manager.
Cowley - same goes here. A big gamble so would have to be a no. The guy has got bags full of potential so I wouldn't be against it.
Adkins or Evans - sensible good choices and 2 very different characters
Wilcox - indifferent record. Not particularly a positive move
Karl Robinson - highly unlikely but would be a major coup
Dave jones - maybe out the game too long. Bags of experiance
Steve cotterill - off to franchise scum
Ian Holloway - not a chance of him coming (fnar)
Probably nots...... John carver (ex Newcastle assistant), malky mackay, Paul ince, dougie freedman, billy davies, Stephen Presley, Tony Mowbray
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Read Ian Holloway is on the shortlist as well.Hope so and would be my choice http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....13-detail/story.html
He'll do for me---at least we'd get a laugh. When he went to Blackpool he said what has Blackpool and my missus got in common---They both look---???? Anyway I still don't think Hurst will get the Shrewsbury job
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Some of these are pie in the sky. Do we seriously think JF would pay the sort of wage Evans or Adkins would want to come here?
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He'll do for me---at least we'd get a laugh. When he went to Blackpool he said what has Blackpool and my missus got in common---They both look---???? Anyway I still don't think Hurst will get the Shrewsbury job
Looking at his track record was at Bristol Rovers and QPR for a while albeit in some of the other posts didnt last that long.I just like the way he comes across as well eg passionate and cares.Remember the Blackpool season in the prem and I really warmed to him eg in the post press match conferences Having said that things he said about women and looks were a bit below the belt in my book.Who cares what women look like as so long as they have a good heart thats all what matters
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According to the OS, there is no shortlist and no preferred candidate at this stage and reports to the contrary are wrong. They say they will take their time and do their due diligence, so any odds on anyone are mere speculation at this point. http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.u.....manager-3382062.aspx
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Juist checked and remembered that Atkins took Southampton into the Prem with successive promotions. Impressive. IF he is appointed (an excellent choice in my view), then if we go up this season, I would expect the same as he did at Southampton.
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Juist checked and remembered that Atkins took Southampton into the Prem with successive promotions. Impressive. IF he is appointed (an excellent choice in my view), then if we go up this season, I would expect the same as he did at Southampton.
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According to the OS, there is no shortlist and no preferred candidate at this stage and reports to the contrary are wrong. They say they will take their time and do their due diligence, so any odds on anyone are mere speculation at this point. http://www.grimsby-townfc.co.u.....manager-3382062.aspx
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So many of you in cloud cuckoo land. Most of these managers mentioned are League 1 plus.
You need to lower your expectations and not become "deluded".
Managers like
Wilcox Mills Burnett Brabin Bignob
Will be more our price range as much as it pains me to say it, however nothing wrong in being optimistic lol.
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Steve Evans and Nigel Adkins would be at the top of my list. Both would have to overcome a certain amount of baggage in order to win over at least some of the fanbase, but they both have a track record that we would be foolish to ignore, particularly given they're both out of work at the moment.
Beyond that, the other name that stands out in the betting for me is John Hughes. It didn't go well for him at Hartlepool but he has an excellent record in Scotland. I would be very reluctant to go down the ex-player route given our recent history in that area.
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A little Googling led me to [url]http://www.thesackrace.com/managers/alan-curbishley[/url]
a long time out of the game but...Alan Curbishley?
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So many of you in cloud cuckoo land. Most of these managers mentioned are League 1 plus.
You need to lower your expectations and not become "deluded".
Managers like
Wilcox Mills Burnett Brabin Bignob
Will be more our price range as much as it pains me to say it, however nothing wrong in being optimistic lol.
Not necessarily, if you are out of work and offered a decent wage we are a club on the up, not down.
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Some of these are pie in the sky. Do we seriously think JF would pay the sort of wage Evans or Adkins would want to come here?
From what I know of Adkins, he's the sort of manager who will be hurt by what happened at Sheff Utd and would relish the challenge of carrying us forward.
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I originally mentioned him Robo and got melted by the keyboard warriors lol
Not sure why, it's a decent suggestion. Depends what he's looking for I suppose, but Charlton were always a smaller and rather unfashionable club punching above their weight for some time, playing good football.
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If you say so supertown. Shrewsbury couldn't even attract them lmao. I think your expecting too much. Dont get me wrong id be delighted with Evans or Adkins but i think were out of their price range.
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So many of you in cloud cuckoo land. Most of these managers mentioned are League 1 plus.
You need to lower your expectations and not become "deluded".
Managers like
Wilcox Mills Burnett Brabin Bignob
Will be more our price range as much as it pains me to say it, however nothing wrong in being optimistic lol.
Perhaps you have been indoctrinated into a small town mentality. Where is it you live again?
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If you say so supertown. Shrewsbury couldn't even attract them lmao. I think your expecting too much. Dont get me wrong id be delighted with Evans or Adkins but i think were out of their price range.
Depends what they are looking for. Can't imagine either is short of a bob or two, so it may not be about the money.
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Adkins would be my first choice. I would be staggered if we could afford him. He'd have managed in every division then?
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Depends what they are looking for. Can't imagine either is short of a bob or two, so it may not be about the money.
I truely hope so ginny but i cant see it mate. It'll be someone like Mills or Brabin.
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Perhaps you have been indoctrinated into a small town mentality. Where is it you live again?
Errm Grimsby
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I truely hope so ginny but i cant see it mate. It'll be someone like Mills or Brabin.
If we pushed the boat out for someone like Adkins, then the home gate would go up immediately i imagine. 500 extra fans at £20 quid a pop soon adds up. If he then got us winning with attractive football, those fans would stay and be joined by others. I'm not getting any hopes up for someone of his calibre but as footy fans, we can dream a bit.
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May not mean much at this stage but Adkins is now 1/3 with Skybet.
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Evans and Atkins might be optimistic but Brabin and Mills seem exceptionally pessimistic suggestions!
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So many of you in cloud cuckoo land. Most of these managers mentioned are League 1 plus.
You need to lower your expectations and not become "deluded".
Unfortunately I have to agree. Adkins would be a sensational coup, he's got about 5 promotions on his CV and we'd probably have to push the boat out to be able to offer him 5% of what he was on at Southampton in the Premier League. Being optimistic is all well and good and there's no harm in trying to get someone of his calibre, but the downside is when we inevitably hire someone more realistic and all the "cheap option" & "lack of ambition" jibes come out.
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The Cowley brothers are slowly building up a good reputation for taking teams and improving them - Grimsby have certainly suffered from their tactical acumen, and Lincoln are certainly improving this season under their tutelage.
If both Town (and they) are ambitious, and finances could be agreed for compensation and salaries, they could be an ideal pairing to replace the two that have moved on.
My personal opinion is that an ambitious pairing would be both frugally correct, and right for keeping distance from the players currently here. They have not played square pegs in round holes wherever they have been in charge, and are the right age and professional attitude to improve a team towards a promotion push.
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I think Marcus Bignot at Solihull Moors may be a more likely prospect if we go down that road.
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The Cowley brothers are slowly building up a good reputation for taking teams and improving them - Grimsby have certainly suffered from their tactical acumen, and Lincoln are certainly improving this season under their tutelage.
If both Town (and they) are ambitious, and finances could be agreed for compensation and salaries, they could be an ideal pairing to replace the two that have moved on.
My personal opinion is that an ambitious pairing would be both frugally correct, and right for keeping distance from the players currently here. They have not played square pegs in round holes wherever they have been in charge, and are the right age and professional attitude to improve a team towards a promotion push.
And they have achieved?
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I tell you what, some of the under ambitious suggestions are more staggering than the so called over ambitious! Brabin?! Bignot?! Burnett?!? FFS. Middling conference managers at best?!
Who is 'Mills?'
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I would take 'Bignob' over any of those mentioned Chaos !
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May not mean much at this stage but Adkins is now 1/3 with Skybet.
Well when Hurst was 1/3 for the Shrewsbury job, it seemed a done deal. Here's hoping.
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The Cowley brothers are slowly building up a good reputation for taking teams and improving them - Grimsby have certainly suffered from their tactical acumen, and Lincoln are certainly improving this season under their tutelage.
If both Town (and they) are ambitious, and finances could be agreed for compensation and salaries, they could be an ideal pairing to replace the two that have moved on.
My personal opinion is that an ambitious pairing would be both frugally correct, and right for keeping distance from the players currently here. They have not played square pegs in round holes wherever they have been in charge, and are the right age and professional attitude to improve a team towards a promotion push.
Far far too soon for them, no league experience FFS they were school teachers this time last year
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I can just about see why Bignot might at least be given some thought but Brabin FFS? As for 'Mills', I presume he means Gary rather than John or Heather. That'll be the one sacked by Conference Wrexham in the past fortnight.
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I can just about see why Bignot might at least be given some thought but Brabin FFS? As for 'Mills', I presume he means Gary rather than John or Heather. That'll be the one sacked by Conference Wrexham in the past fortnight.
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Consensus seems to be that Adkins would be the ideal manager but we probably cannot afford him. Obviously true if he demands a salary similar to the ones he was on at Southampton, Reading or even Sheffield United - but the point is he'd have banked quite a lot in the way of pay-offs from these jobs and I suspect that for him the priority would be to get back into management and rebuild his reputation, which ought to be more important than money. Grimsby would seem to be the ideal place to do that. Just hope he sees it that way. Curtis Woodehouse on R Humbs was impressive just now. Clearly not ready for it just yet, but as a no 2 ... and John McDermott, likewise?
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If Adkins was to come here then it would be for all the right reasons , I'm guessing that any manager that has managed for the last 12 years at all levels including the Prem won't be short of a few quid. He wouldn't be coming here for the money
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Whenever I buy (or in this case employ) something I always look at it like this:-
If I am buying a new television I know I have to spend say £500 in any event, to get a reasonable one. I might have to spend £800 to get a great television so in my eyes its a no brainer - for only £300 I am getting what I really want.
Fenty should use my buying guide to get the new manager in. Hursts wages (the £500 television) are already factored in so for just a bit more he could get who he really wants if he can convince them.
Its easy this new manager lark.
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I can just about see why Bignot might at least be given some thought but Brabin FFS? As for 'Mills', I presume he means Gary rather than John or Heather. That'll be the one sacked by Conference Wrexham in the past fortnight.
Better with Mrs Mills for those that go back a few years
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Can't see us stumping up for Heather
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Whenever I buy (or in this case employ) something I always look at it like this:-
If I am buying a new television I know I have to spend say £500 in any event, to get a reasonable one. I might have to spend £800 to get a great television so in my eyes its a no brainer - for only £300 I am getting what I really want.
Fenty should use my buying guide to get the new manager in. Hursts wages (the £500 television) are already factored in so for just a bit more he could get who he really wants if he can convince them.
Its easy this new manager lark.
Not only are Hursts wages factored in, we have another 6 months wages on the way from Shrewsbury, so may as well push the boat out with the free money. Yeah, it's easy innit?
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Not only are Hursts wages factored in, we have another 6 months wages on the way from Shrewsbury, so may as well push the boat out with the free money. Yeah, it's easy innit?
They need us on the appointments committee and quick.
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Have Town fans been sticking loads of bets on Adkins or is there an appointment imminent?
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Honestly I don't see what all the fuss about Adkins is. At Scunthorpe he was blessed with some of the best lower league attacking talent of a generation; Hayes, Hooper, Patterson, Beckford, Lansbury (Loan) & McCann. When he moved to Southampton he basically took over a Premiership team of talent languishing in Lg1. My mother (hasn't done her badges) could have got them promoted the year he went there and momentum and the inherent quality did a large part of the job the following season. His latest efforts at Reading and Sheff Utd have been completely underwhelming despite a large war chest to do battle with. Unless you want 'The Art of War' quoted to you every week can we please, please, please have a more original choice.
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Can't see us stumping up for Heather
Fenty would certainly be going out on a limb if he appointed her
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Fenty would certainly be going out on a limb if he appointed her
Yep. She'd cost an arm and a ..... Oh, just an arm then
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I just hope it all gets sorted sooner rather than later and it doesn't drag on for weeks like I fear will happen.
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The Cowley brothers are slowly building up a good reputation for taking teams and improving them - Grimsby have certainly suffered from their tactical acumen, and Lincoln are certainly improving this season under their tutelage.
If both Town (and they) are ambitious, and finances could be agreed for compensation and salaries, they could be an ideal pairing to replace the two that have moved on.
My personal opinion is that an ambitious pairing would be both frugally correct, and right for keeping distance from the players currently here. They have not played square pegs in round holes wherever they have been in charge, and are the right age and professional attitude to improve a team towards a promotion push.
I beg to differ. They've played Bradley Wood in CM for most of this season.
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I beg to differ. They've played Bradley Wood in CM for most of this season.
Wood always saw himself as a CM if I remember correctly.
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Wood always saw himself as a CM if I remember correctly.
Doesn't mean he's any good!
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How was it easy to get Southampton promoted from league 1? Surely it was easier to get us out of non-league?
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How was it easy to get Southampton promoted from league 1? Surely it was easier to get us out of non-league?
Check out the squad he had at his disposal - pretty tasty to say the least.
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John Coleman from Accrington Stanley ?
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Have Town fans been sticking loads of bets on Adkins or is there an appointment imminent?
I imagine it's town fans backing their favourite rather than it actually being particularly likely. I'd be amazed if we got Adkins.
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Fenty won't have a leg to stand on if he doesn't appoint Heather Mills. (And neither will Mills).
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This won't go down well with politically correct types but would Malky Mackay find this an attractive opportunity to get his career going again?
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Tin hat on. Pleased to see sulky Hurst gone ( I was a fan but got sick of his tantrums, a soft tart for me) best for all that he is gone. Steve Evans for me, Adkins OK to. Good choices out there and I hope we will trade up here as the home form has been horrible. UTM
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Throwing Alan Stubbs and Craig Shakespeare's Names in there as possibilities
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Throwing Alan Stubbs and Craig Shakespeare's Names in there as possibilities
please not Shakespeare, I don't think I could cope with the Cod Almighty match reports
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Gary Mills is manager of York. Heather Mills would be good though
Can't help but think of Cook and Moore's one-legged Tarzan sketch. 'I like your left leg. I've got nothing against your left leg. Trouble is, neither have you.'
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I think it will be Russ Wilcox.
Can't see us getting a manager like Evans or Adkins who are accustommed to a higher level than us. We're not an attractive another proposition for managers to be dropping leagues to manage us. Our financial situation isn't great, an undesirable location and we're already over-achieving for this season.
Wilcox, had a rough time at Scunny and York before he went from both. Did well in League 2, not so well in League 1 but should be focusing on a manager good for this league first.
People have got way too ahead of themselves, 6 months ago we were happy to survive in this league. We aren't some uprising phoenix on a fast-track road to the Championship.
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This won't go down well with politically correct types but would Malky Mackay find this an attractive opportunity to get his career going again?
Been out of work for 18 months now. Two names who shrews considered were Jim Bentley at morecambe and Alan Archibald at partick
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Been out of work for 18 months now. Two names who shrews considered were Jim Bentley at morecambe and Alan Archibald at partick
Archibald was Shrews first choice but he turned down their approach, wishing to stay at Partick.
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This won't go down well with politically correct types but would Malky Mackay find this an attractive opportunity to get his career going again?
The soft liberals on here would never accept him unfortunately, same with Evans I would have him yesterday but he will never win over the PC element.
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I'd stay at home if we got Wilcox.
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Wilcox or Knill no thanks. Completely uninspiring personalities and very very average managerial records. No recent form. Wilcox's York team wasn't good enough for L2. I'm sure somebody backtracked on Knill's supposed interest anyway so not sure where the idea of an interview came from.
I would think the more likely of the ex Scunny types would be Mark Robins - barely mentioned on here, but probably ticks boxes. Not sure how I feel about that one. Got bored of listening to him on RH and Scunny got rid.
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I'd be disappointed but out of all the names mentioned I think Wilcox sounds as likely as any.
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I'd be disappointed but out of all the names mentioned I think Wilcox sounds as likely as any.
I'd be gutted if we got Wilcox. He's barely managed 100 games, did averagely at Scunny and terribly at York. What an uninspiring appointment that would be that could well start off a chain of events leading us back in to the abyss.
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Why would any chairman with a brain cell look to appoint russ wilcox ?
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I would be pleased with Adkins, Cotterill or even Evans but can't see us attracting any of them.
Cowley, did well and played to his strengths at Braintree, but struggling after a good start at Imps. Wouldnt look great leaving after a few months either so I dont think he is a candidate.
Hate the thought of Knill or Wilcoxand would prefer we dont go down the road of ex players/managers.
Do we go for a highly experienced man like a Ronnie Moore or a promising newcomer like a Marcus Bignot (?) Either way it will be a gamble.
A new name is someone like Martin Gray who has all his badges ( A licence) and has taken Darlington up through the lower leagues
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Because he'd be keen, cheap, no compo to pay and he'd probably be desperate enough not to ask for too many guarantees re coaches, facilities etc. To be clear I'd be as underwhelmed as anybody if he got it.
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Been out of work for 18 months now. Two names who shrews considered were Jim Bentley at morecambe and Alan Archibald at partick
Bentley would be a great shout for me. Constantly achieving miracles on a shoe string budget. Neat attacking style. Great work ethic. Unfortunately another manager who can't get his team winning at home
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*sounds the Ronnie Moore klaxon*
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FWIW, it'll either be up and coming (Cowley/Bignot) or someone like Wilcox. I'd much prefer the former.
Can you imagine Adkins walking into this club after the set up at Southampton or Sheff United?
I also think there's more likely to be friction with a "big name" manager. They aren't going to take any nonsense for long. Someone who has been given their first gig at a league manager is probably malleable to an extent...
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A case of too many choices, obvious ones like Madkins and Evans wont entertain us at our level IMO, Wilcocks and Mills will see us back into Non league, Cowley Bros would be a comedy act at this level so where does that leave us, someone out of the blue who has some experience of League football is required and there are plenty of them out there, over to you JF
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Quoted from 97
FWIW, it'll either be up and coming (Cowley/Bignot) or someone like Wilcox. I'd much prefer the former.
Can you imagine Adkins walking into this club after the set up at Southampton or Sheff United?
I also think there's more likely to be friction with a "big name" manager. They aren't going to take any nonsense for long. Someone who has been given their first gig at a league manager is probably malleable to an extent...
Think you are probably right WLM. The sort of financial package we will be offering won't attract some of the names being bandied about, so that leaves the serial lower league merry go round types, or the ambitious hungry types looking for a step up. I would prefer the latter personally and you never know, we may just get the next Buckley or even Slade, who i wasn't a particular fan of, but who knew his way around a squad and adapted very quickly after his first season.
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Don't think my post was very clear. I would much prefer the up and coming non league manager..! As someone else up there said, I have a very real fear that appointing someone like Mills/Wilcox/Burnett will put us straight back down into non league.
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How depressing is it to read the realistic options we have open to us?
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How depressing is it to read the realistic options we have open to us?
Yep. And it was always going to be like this. Worst aspects of Hurst leaving was; 1) the pool of alternatives and 2) our track record in this area. I really wished he could have stayed until we were in league 1.
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How depressing is it to read the realistic options we have open to us?
I agree, lets face it, Shrewsbury, a league above us, ended up with possibly their third choice candidate.
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Wasnt Hurst and shouty our 3rd/4th or 5th choice?
Sometimes you just hit upon someone that works.
Looking at the list of realistic candidates I hope some start to review their delight at Hurst moving on (not that it does anyone any good- we must look forward to whatever this brings)
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John Tondeur mentioned Robbie Stockdale as a possibility in his Radio Humberside Sports Talk interview last night - promising up-and-coming coach with a very good reputation, close affinity to the club, but of course no managerial experience as yet. But if he has the ability (and ambition) to manage as well as coach, it might be one that the Board would consider (arguably preferable to a 'journeyman name').
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Good job Cooper's on a squillion quid a year at Village Green or he'd be up next. I had an exciting list of candidates in my head yesterday, but none of them seem to be making the alleged real list. Hope the Board can keep us updated and not be tempted to go too leftfield, an old hand that guides us to top half will do for me right now.
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Robbie Stockdale would probably be a good shout for me. The guy could probably attract some very good players to the club and has been at most levels of football so should be tactically sound.
But - would he want to come here from a cushy job? Well Hurst has just done that so why not?
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Heard Mark Robbins is a front runner already, 22/1 currently if anyone fancies a dabble.
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Apparently prior to the last appointment, Ian Holloway ruled himself out because of the location.
I don't think we've got the new ground yet.
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Well the club denies there is a shortlist and says there is no rush ................ so I would expect the interviews of the chosen few to begin today. I would be very surprised if someone of the standing of Adkins would be interested even if JF agreed to pay his wage demands. The same with our ex-Boston, Crawley, Rotherham and Leeds friend. He's used to larging it with the bigger boys now. So we are left with the usual suspects. Unlikely we will try and tap up someone to apply like Shrewsbury obviously did unless they are non-league. Stockdale is mentioned but he has no experience and we could be into another Woods-type situation. We like him, he's a good coach but can he really manage a team to get results? The pool dries up very quickly when you start to have a seriously look at it. Quite honestly I couldn't put a name up there that is both possible and wantable. Cowley perhaps but very inexperienced. Wilcox got a raw deal at Scunthorpe I felt and maybe that has affected him. Bignot is inexperienced, Ronnie Moore was good but he could only be short term and we couldn't afford the his wages plus the wages of some young coach for him to mentor. I have criticised Fenty heavily on here in the past for appointments but today I don't envy him at all. Previously he had reasonable choices but now the field is poor quality at our level and any appointment is going to be a risk. Quite a big risk too because the last thing we want is a freefall back down in the dark ages. I hope he takes advice from the right people before being seduced by some smart talker like Newell.
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Well the club denies there is a shortlist and says there is no rush ................ so I would expect the interviews of the chosen few to begin today. I would be very surprised if someone of the standing of Adkins would be interested even if JF agreed to pay his wage demands. The same with our ex-Boston, Crawley, Rotherham and Leeds friend. He's used to larging it with the bigger boys now. So we are left with the usual suspects. Unlikely we will try and tap up someone to apply like Shrewsbury obviously did unless they are non-league. Stockdale is mentioned but he has no experience and we could be into another Woods-type situation. We like him, he's a good coach but can he really manage a team to get results? The pool dries up very quickly when you start to have a seriously look at it. Quite honestly I couldn't put a name up there that is both possible and wantable. Cowley perhaps but very inexperienced. Wilcox got a raw deal at Scunthorpe I felt and maybe that has affected him. Bignot is inexperienced, Ronnie Moore was good but he could only be short term and we couldn't afford the his wages plus the wages of some young coach for him to mentor. I have criticised Fenty heavily on here in the past for appointments but today I don't envy him at all. Previously he had reasonable choices but now the field is poor quality at our level and any appointment is going to be a risk. Quite a big risk too because the last thing we want is a freefall back down in the dark ages. I hope he takes advice from the right people before being seduced by some smart talker like Newell.
To be fair when Mike Newell was given the job i think most people were over the moon and thought the new messiah had arrived, turns out to be nothing but a dsigrace to be honest. Certainly couldnt blame Fenty for that one lol. But yes Mr Fenty has certainly got a hard choice to make now and whatever happens i doubt all the fans will be happy.
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Matt Dean says shortlist of 6 with quick appointment, club statement says no rush to appoint 😂
I agree with a lot of others that we are likely to get someone with quite a bit of failure on their CV or very little success and experience. I don't know if Paul Wilkinson would work with certain people at the club again after getting the chop, but he's been a good coach and assistant in good jobs for quite some time.
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Well the club denies there is a shortlist and says there is no rush ................ so I would expect the interviews of the chosen few to begin today. I would be very surprised if someone of the standing of Adkins would be interested even if JF agreed to pay his wage demands. The same with our ex-Boston, Crawley, Rotherham and Leeds friend. He's used to larging it with the bigger boys now. So we are left with the usual suspects. Unlikely we will try and tap up someone to apply like Shrewsbury obviously did unless they are non-league. Stockdale is mentioned but he has no experience and we could be into another Woods-type situation. We like him, he's a good coach but can he really manage a team to get results? The pool dries up very quickly when you start to have a seriously look at it. Quite honestly I couldn't put a name up there that is both possible and wantable. Cowley perhaps but very inexperienced. Wilcox got a raw deal at Scunthorpe I felt and maybe that has affected him. Bignot is inexperienced, Ronnie Moore was good but he could only be short term and we couldn't afford the his wages plus the wages of some young coach for him to mentor. I have criticised Fenty heavily on here in the past for appointments but today I don't envy him at all. Previously he had reasonable choices but now the field is poor quality at our level and any appointment is going to be a risk. Quite a big risk too because the last thing we want is a freefall back down in the dark ages. I hope he takes advice from the right people before being seduced by some smart talker like Newell.
To be fair when Mike Newell was given the job i think most people were over the moon and thought the new messiah had arrived, turns out to be nothing but a dsigrace to be honest. Certainly couldnt blame Fenty for that one lol. But yes Mr Fenty has certainly got a hard choice to make now and whatever happens i doubt all the fans will be happy.
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Noticed Dennis greene has come in sharply on betting this morning a convicted benefit fraudster in his time
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Matt Dean says shortlist of 6 with quick appointment, club statement says no rush to appoint 😂
I agree with a lot of others that we are likely to get someone with quite a bit of failure on their CV or very little success and experience. I don't know if Paul Wilkinson would work with certain people at the club again after getting the chop, but he's been a good coach and assistant in good jobs for quite some time.
I am always a little sceptical about anyone who has always been an assistant or a coach and never managed on his own.Not saying there is a correct formula, that is possibly why the longevity of a manager is about 18 months on average these days!
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Noticed Dennis greene has come in sharply on betting this morning a convicted benefit fraudster in his time
Noticed that too. Looking at those near the top of the betting, only Adkins would give me any confidence whatsoever - Greene, Wilcox and Cowley (due to lack of experience) fill me with dread.
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Why go for a "name" who has been sacked numerous times? Our best managers have been for lower down the ladder: Buckley, Slade, Hurst. Or you could take a punt with a top-flight player on their first job like Laws. Half the skill in the job is picking good players. Do we really want someone who has been out of the game for months?
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Matt Dean says shortlist of 6 with quick appointment, club statement says no rush to appoint 😂
I agree with a lot of others that we are likely to get someone with quite a bit of failure on their CV or very little success and experience. I don't know if Paul Wilkinson would work with certain people at the club again after getting the chop, but he's been a good coach and assistant in good jobs for quite some time.
I thought about Paul. He's currently a youth coach at Norwich I think. He has been an assistant manager but never a manager in his own right so it's another risky call. He's 50+ now and if I was him, I doubt I'd want the hassle anyway! But you never know.
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I thought about Paul. He's currently a youth coach at Norwich I think. He has been an assistant manager but never a manager in his own right so it's another risky call. He's 50+ now and if I was him, I doubt I'd want the hassle anyway! But you never know.
i thought he was at Northampton? Maybe I am wrong
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i thought he was at Northampton? Maybe I am wrong
I think you're right, assistant at Northampton.
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Why go for a "name" who has been sacked numerous times? Our best managers have been for lower down the ladder: Buckley, Slade, Hurst. Or you could take a punt with a top-flight player on their first job like Laws. Half the skill in the job is picking good players. Do we really want someone who has been out of the game for months?
I think this has a lot of merit and i imagine the board will at least be considering it given the three names you mention. My first thought was that we need an experienced league manager, but as you point out, we have had almost 100% success lately recruiting from below.
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The soft liberals on here would never accept him unfortunately, same with Evans I would have him yesterday but he will never win over the PC element.
I thought you right wingers were meant to be big on law and order. Or is fraud OK in positions of responsibility?
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With his playing days virtually finished, we could do worse than offer Wayne Rooney the player/manager position. Would make us popular with Mourinho & Southgate - and Wayne should still have enough to bang in a few for us. Money?......No problem - he's got so much he doesn't need any more!
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With his playing days virtually finished, we could do worse than offer Wayne Rooney the player/manager position. Would make us popular with Mourinho & Southgate - and Wayne should still have enough to bang in a few for us. Money?......No problem - he's got so much he doesn't need any more!
He should pay us for the privilege of being asked to come to Grimsby Town FC.
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I think this has a lot of merit and i imagine the board will at least be considering it given the three names you mention. My first thought was that we need an experienced league manager, but as you point out, we have had almost 100% success lately recruiting from below.
Not just lately Ginny but historically, our most successful mangers - Bill Shankley, Lawrie McMenemy, Alan Buckley, George Kerr - none of them were that well known or had taken the world by storm before they came to us. It's always a knee-jerk reaction to start touting the obvious names who have been on the managerial merry-go-round for a number of years, but sometimes it's the unknown guy who gets the job done.
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With his playing days virtually finished, we could do worse than offer Wayne Rooney the player/manager position. Would make us popular with Mourinho & Southgate - and Wayne should still have enough to bang in a few for us. Money?......No problem - he's got so much he doesn't need any more!
If the bags ball was still going then maybe
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Where the hell has Dennis Greene come from? Failing at Boston and looks like a twit in a flatcap. No thanks!
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Kettering, Scarborough and Boston.
Only three managers since the 80s have improved our league position during their time at the club, and they came from those clubs.
All non-league.
I'm not sure what the answer is, I don't have an idea who the best candidate is, and I don't envy the board's task.
However, while none of us enjoyed playing the likes of Welling and Woking week in, week out, we know from being in non-league that there's a strong desire from players and managers to get in the league and prove themselves, because they know what it's like to face up to reality.
It's a passion, a desire and a motivation that I sometimes don't see in those 'born into' the league.
Just because we 'escaped' non-league and feel like we should distance ourselves from it as much as possible (a totally natural reaction), we shouldn't overlook the nuggets of gold that can be found down there.
It's very easy to dismiss a non-league manager by saying 'he has no league experience', but neither did Buckley, Slade or Hurst.
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Kettering, Scarborough and Boston.
Only three managers since the 80s have improved our league position during their time at the club, and they came from those clubs.
All non-league.
I'm not sure what the answer is, I don't have an idea who the best candidate is, and I don't envy the board's task.
However, while none of us enjoyed playing the likes of Welling and Woking week in, week out, we know from being in non-league that there's a strong desire from players and managers to get in the league and prove themselves, because they know what it's like to face up to reality.
It's a passion, a desire and a motivation that I sometimes don't see in those 'born into' the league.
Just because we 'escaped' non-league and feel like we should distance ourselves from it as much as possible (a totally natural reaction), we shouldn't overlook the nuggets of gold that can be found down there.
It's very easy to dismiss a non-league manager by saying 'he has no league experience', but neither did Buckley, Slade or Hurst.
Totally agree with the sentiment but Buckley had managed in the league, and pretty successfully at Walsall
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Some people are saying Adkins would not come here. He did start off as a physio at Scunthorpe - and you cannot get much lower than that. He has been grounded in grassroots football.
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Kettering, Scarborough and Boston.
Only three managers since the 80s have improved our league position during their time at the club, and they came from those clubs.
All non-league.
Alan Buckley certainly wasn't an out and out none league manager just because he was at Kettering before us. Prior to that he had managed Walsall in the Football League both as a caretaker player/manager and a permanent manager. With notable scalps at the Saddlers including the defeat of Arsenal in the League Cup at Highbury which resulted in the sacking of Gooners manager Terry Neil. In that season he got Walsall to the semi final of the cup, getting a much deserved draw at Anfield against Liverpool who had a team of 80's superstars in it. Buckley was no "none league" management pedigree. I grew up watching Buckley as a player at Walsall and as a manager. I can tell you there was many a tearful Saddlers fan when the new owner decided to bring his own manager Tommy Coakley with him.
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Some people are saying Adkins would not come here. He did start off as a physio at Scunthorpe - and you cannot get much lower than that. He has been grounded in grassroots football.
Although I don't usually find anything amusing about Scunthorpe, I did like their chant when they played Chelsea in the cup in about 2005. 'You have Mourino and we have our Physio.'
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People were linking Rob Edwards with the job. You can forget him for now as he is caretaker manager at Wolves
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Some people are saying Adkins would not come here. He did start off as a physio at Scunthorpe - and you cannot get much lower than that. He has been grounded in grassroots football.
He actually had a brief spell as a non-league manager before he trained as a physio and got a job at Scunny
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Adkins took the place of a manager (Brian Laws) who was unpopular with his own fans and left (sacked) straight after giving them promotion. Apart from the sacked bit, just some things that might make Adkins feel at home in Hursts old position
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I think all the comments demonstrate what a precarious job choosing a Manager can be, guy at Bristol Rovers done well in his first job as has the new Manager at Luton whilst experienced guys like Terry Butcher and Tony Mowbray failed miserably at these lower level clubs.
I would not have had Hasselbaink down as a good appointment for Burton but that worked out. Ince when he was first in management was a success so I am sure others will be, just finding them and getting the genuine guys not the bull shitters which is not easy as I am sure they all talk a good game.
Many at Town forget Tom casey but he was, if memory serves me right, the one who started playing many of the grimsby own grown talent & youth with Ford, Donovan & Young but Newman & then Kerr reaped the rewards. Similarly, McMenemy took over a team Bobby Kennedy put together & we will never know if bob would have been as successful in that 71/72 season as i recall we finished previous season quite well.
Dont envy JF on this one.
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Not just lately Ginny but historically, our most successful mangers - Bill Shankley, Lawrie McMenemy, Alan Buckley, George Kerr - none of them were that well known or had taken the world by storm before they came to us.
It's always a knee-jerk reaction to start touting the obvious names who have been on the managerial merry-go-round for a number of years, but sometimes it's the unknown guy who gets the job done.
You'd have to say Hurst was a success and Slade didn't do too badly, so that's pretty much lately.
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Darren Wrack has appeared on sky bet at 16-1???
No idea where that has come from. Last time I knew he was scouting for Brighton but has never had any managerial experience at all.
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You'd have to say Hurst was a success and Slade didn't do too badly, so that's pretty much lately.
I agree entirely, but the point I was making was that throughout the club's history our most successful managers have come from relative obscurity. I could be wrong but I can't think of an example where an established household name actually brought us any success.
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I agree entirely, but the point I was making was that throughout the club's history our most successful managers have come from relative obscurity. I could be wrong but I can't think of an example where an established household name actually brought us any success.
You mean like M**e Ly**s.
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You mean like M**e Ly**s.
I certainly do! And Lennie Lawrence, Brian Laws, Mike Newell...
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STOP LOOKING AT ODDS.
Why???
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Walter Zenga left Wolves today too so another job for the 'star' targets to go for
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Now add Garry Caldwell at Wigan-its amazing. I watched Wigan a few days ago and they played very well, but did not win. Not sure a change of manager was the problem.
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Any odds requests with sky bet have gone straight onto the long list. The market is tiny so there anything over say £10 will produce an odds fluctuation. There might have only been about £50 put on Adkins last night but he was down to 1/3!
Oh and unless skybet have a mole at BP what do they know about who we're looking at?!
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Where's ffs when you need him? with wolves and Wigan in the hunt we don't stand a chance of getting Wilcox or knill
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Who thinks Paul Groves could be the man.
Not super-cheap, but he was a good leader here as captain and although he didn't succeed as manager, he was dealt a difficult hand with little experience.
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Who thinks Paul Groves could be the man.
Not super-cheap, but he was a good leader here as captain and although he didn't succeed as manager, he was dealt a difficult hand with little experience.
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. I prefer not to sit on the fence
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That would be a no, then?
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That would be a no, then?
Phew! II was a bit worried that I had been a bit too subtle
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Any odds requests with sky bet have gone straight onto the long list. The market is tiny so there anything over say £10 will produce an odds fluctuation. There might have only been about £50 put on Adkins last night but he was down to 1/3!
Oh and unless skybet have a mole at BP what do they know about who we're looking at?!
What odds is the mole? I think it would be a short sighted choice!
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Adkins retakes the lead, 8/11 on.
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Now add Garry Caldwell at Wigan-its amazing. I watched Wigan a few days ago and they played very well, but did not win. Not sure a change of manager was the problem.
i have a few wigan ath friends and they rate caldwell did very well in league 1 last year this season they are not getting hammered just loosing by odd goal and just need run of green
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Where's ffs when you need him? with wolves and Wigan in the hunt we don't stand a chance of getting Wilcox or knill
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Do people taking notice of the odds not realise they're based on what stakes are put on each applicant? Adkins is the one all the fans are talking about, there'll have been money put on him for that reason. I'd love it to be him but doubt it will be.
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What staggers me is people putting money on what is realistically a total long shot at a stupidly short (odds on) price!
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Can't see us getting a manager any time soon to be honest. Depends on what happens with Moore and Watkins at the helm but I think all these big names mentioned will want big bucks we don't do big bucks.
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Enjoyed some of these posts but problem is we don't know who might apply and it may be somebody we haven't yet mentioned if there is any body that is
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What staggers me is people putting money on what is realistically a total long shot at a stupidly short (odds on) price!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
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^Read this board during the close season and you see that in spades.
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I agree entirely, but the point I was making was that throughout the club's history our most successful managers have come from relative obscurity. I could be wrong but I can't think of an example where an established household name actually brought us any success.
Yeah, i thought after i had posted that you probably meant that.
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I've been thinking about this one so bear with me. We often hear of this 'benign' loan scenario from his Lordship, could it be in reference to the number of managers he's appointed? Perhaps it was nothing to do with loans at all, maybe a coded reference to a future plan to really push the boat out? Not sure on this but perhaps if Hurst was number 8, then using my theory, Adkins could benign!
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See Groves has had his odds shortened considerably. Wouldn't mind him at all
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Holloway wud suit all the fishy funsters... think how much banter we wud have then...!!!
Would take Adkins tho... we need an experienced LEAGUE manager... please John...
lets not go cheap or inexperienced at this level.... took us long enough to get back here....
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See Groves has had his odds shortened considerably. Wouldn't mind him at all
His last job lasted a few months at Bournemouth. He was hopeless there.
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See Groves has had his odds shortened considerably. Wouldn't mind him at all
Fine if you want another Neil Woods or Watkins scenario. Paul Groves is a coach, a very highly rated one, but he is not a manager. Look at his record in the hot seat and it shows. Not for me, thank you.
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See Groves has had his odds shortened considerably. Wouldn't mind him at all
Have you had a head injury which has led to you forgetting his last spell here?
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Let's not forget that Grovsie did actually steady the ship at the time he first came in. Around the time that he brought in Martin Pringle and Andy Todd. We survived relegation that season under his stewardship.
I often think that Grovsie was the right man, in the right place, but sadly at the WRONG time. He inherited a poisoned chalice at a time when the club were up Excrement Street without a paddle, at exactly the time when finances fell over because of the collapse of the ITV Digital deal.
He is widely regarded as a top coach along with the likes of Craig Shakespeare. Paul has worked in some big clubs alongside the likes of Eddie Howe, Harry Redknapp, Tony Adams, Paul Hart and Avram Grant. His contacts in the game will be endless and he carries a lot of respect.
If by chance he was given the job at Grimsby, I wouldn't be panicking too unduly. I think he is as well placed to start getting some success as a manager as anybody else out there.
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Have you had a head injury which has led to you forgetting his last spell here?
To be fair to Paul Groves he has had loads of coaching experience at a high level since leaving here and has worked alongside some good managers, perhaps some of that has rubbed off onto him and I feel that he will be more experienced now. He won`t be coming anyhow but people do learn as they go along in life, much sooner him than Mills Wilcocks and company ( waits for the Man City jokes)
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He almost certainly earns more as a top level coach than he would as a manager here, so unless he has a burning desire to take the responsibility of management for less dosh....
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Groves as Assistant sounds good, as would Wilkinson. In fact a few of the names strike me as good Assistant/Coach possibles, I'm just nervous about who Fenty and the Board deem as right for the the actual role of the `Gaffer`.
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I really don't see the logic of appointing someone on the basis that they played for us decades ago
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I really don't see the logic of appointing someone on the basis that they played for us decades ago
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I'm sure the bookies police will shoot me down, but odds on Robbie Stockdale have shortened significantly, 9/2 now third favourite.
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I'm sure the bookies police will shoot me down, but odds on Robbie Stockdale have shortened significantly, 9/2 now third favourite.
JIM - the odds have probably shortened simply because 1 or 2 people have put a bet on him;the market will be so small that it will react significantly to any minor event.however just saw this on Wiki. hadn't realised what success he's had at Sunderland - that's pretty impressive and on that basis i'd be very interested if he were in the running On 22 September 2013 Stockdale was appointed assistant to caretaker manager Kevin Ball, following the sacking of manager Paolo Di Canio.[13] After Ball stopped working due to injury, Stockdale became the U21 team manager for the 2014-15 season.[14][15] With four wins out of the final six games of that season, the team finished 4th in the Barclays U21 Premier League, just below Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea.[16][17] Their unbeaten run, starting from March 2015, continued to the 2015-16 season and came to an end when they lost 0-1 to Reading in August.[18][19] Stockdale then guided the team to another five wins and one draw against the likes of Manchester City, Southampton and Liverpool which sent the team to top of the U21 Premier League table.[20][21] Their victory over Liverpool marks a record of only 1 defeat in 22 games.[22] With the impressive work he did with the U21 team, Stockdale was handed the role of acting head coach of the first team on 6 October 2015 after manager male private Advocaat left.[23] He was subsequently named as first team coach following the appointment of manager Sam Allardyce.[24]
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I really don't see the logic of appointing someone on the basis that they played for us decades ago
Oh come on, this has worked every time for GTFC! Guaranteed success...
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I'm sure the bookies police will shoot me down, but odds on Robbie Stockdale have shortened significantly, 9/2 now third favourite.
He will be earning way more than we will pay.
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JIM - the odds have probably shortened simply because 1 or 2 people have put a bet on him;the market will be so small that it will react significantly to any minor event.however just saw this on Wiki. hadn't realised what success he's had at Sunderland - that's pretty impressive and on that basis i'd be very interested if he were in the running
On 22 September 2013 Stockdale was appointed assistant to caretaker manager Kevin Ball, following the sacking of manager Paolo Di Canio.[13] After Ball stopped working due to injury, Stockdale became the U21 team manager for the 2014-15 season.[14][15] With four wins out of the final six games of that season, the team finished 4th in the Barclays U21 Premier League, just below Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea.[16][17] Their unbeaten run, starting from March 2015, continued to the 2015-16 season and came to an end when they lost 0-1 to Reading in August.[18][19] Stockdale then guided the team to another five wins and one draw against the likes of Manchester City, Southampton and Liverpool which sent the team to top of the U21 Premier League table.[20][21] Their victory over Liverpool marks a record of only 1 defeat in 22 games.[22] With the impressive work he did with the U21 team, Stockdale was handed the role of acting head coach of the first team on 6 October 2015 after manager male private Advocaat left.[23] He was subsequently named as first team coach following the appointment of manager Sam Allardyce.[24]
It reads well as a cv Forza but football is littered with the bodies of good coaches who thought they would be just as good at managing, going all the way back to Don Howe who was probably one of the best football coaches in the world in his day. Which is why I have my doubts about Southgate. It's a different job altogether managing a first team no matter how many under-21 and youth teams you've run.
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I'm sure the bookies police will shoot me down, but odds on Robbie Stockdale have shortened significantly, 9/2 now third favourite.
Nigel Adkins 4/6Danny Cowley 7/2Robbie Stockdale 9/2 Paul Groves 9/1 Taking the top two away which IMO are not feasible options, makes Robbie and Paul 1st and 2nd favourites
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Nigel Adkins 4/6 Danny Cowley 7/2 Robbie Stockdale 9/2 Paul Groves 9/1
Taking the top two away which IMO are not feasible options, makes Robbie and Paul 1st and 2nd favourites
Bookies odds are not much help - unless you can find out which one JF has put his money on.
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Adkins 4-6 favourite with sky bet at the mo
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Its pretty certain we won't get the manager we want, its doubtful we will get the manager we need, but its a certainty we will get the manager who's prepared to come here for what the club is prepared to pay.
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My choice would be Dougie Freedman.
Struggled in difficult circumstances at Bolton and Forest but flourished at Palace.
Excellent contacts in the game, tactically astute and good motivator.
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Would he be interested?
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My choice would be Dougie Freedman.
Struggled in difficult circumstances at Bolton and Forest but flourished at Palace.
Excellent contacts in the game, tactically astute and good motivator.
And once said on goals on Sunday when he played for Palace "one of the best things about being in the Premiership is that you get to play in big stadiums and don't have to play away at places like Grimsby" so he can fcuk right off!!
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Neil redfearn would seem to tick the boxes. Scary name who is available;Steven Presley
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And once said on goals on Sunday when he played for Palace "one of the best things about being in the Premiership is that you get to play in big stadiums and don't have to play away at places like Grimsby" so he can fcuk right off!!
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You are in the right place for some fish to have with that huge chip on your shoulder
And there was me thinking it was a "game of opinions" rather than digs at people.
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And once said on goals on Sunday when he played for Palace "one of the best things about being in the Premiership is that you get to play in big stadiums and don't have to play away at places like Grimsby" so he can fcuk right off!!
Goes up in my estimation have you been in our changing rooms? Add the location, run down ground, freezing wind off the North Sea and you can fully understand why fotballers used to dread coming to BP. We used to say the same years ago when we had to play in Mablethorpe in the Lincs League, with one shower on cold concrete floor for the away side. Amazing how many players struggled with other commitments or injuries when that fixture came around.
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How come chris Hargreaves hasn't had a mention yet!?!? 😜
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Neil Redfearn is not a bad shout.
Quite a lot of the current Leeds United youngsters came through the Academy that Neil ran until the Italian idiot came along.
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Neil Redfearn is not a bad shout.
Quite a lot of the current Leeds United youngsters came through the Academy that Neil ran until the Italian idiot came along.
Neil Woods was supposed to be great with the youngsters and we all know where that ended up.
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Neil Woods was supposed to be great with the youngsters and we all know where that ended up.
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I can understand that people may think that certain managers are out of our budget but it's plain that it's better to have money coming in than not.
I'd like to think that the board will do their own 'operation promotion' this time and inject enough cash to get the right manager and what he needs as backroom staff as it seems PH claimed he didn't get what he was promised allegedly.
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so was Rolf....
Rolf Woods.....
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I didn't particularly like hurst but preferred him stay to avoid this situation so early on our return to the FL , I have very little confidence in the board to employ the right man I hope I'm pleasantly surprised
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I didn't particularly like hurst but preferred him stay to avoid this situation so early on our return to the FL , I have very little confidence in the board to employ the right man I hope I'm pleasantly surprised
Yeah, i hear what you're saying. I was looking forward to a season of stability and stress free footy but we'd have to employ someone pretty hopeless to mess up this squad in this league position. Oh!..........
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Yeah, i hear what you're saying. I was looking forward to a season of stability and stress free footy but we'd have to employ someone pretty hopeless to mess up this squad in this league position. Oh!..........
I'm very worried.... but like you say we have a good group of players but still worried
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I'm very worried.... but like you say we have a good group of players but still worried
Until January...
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Redfearn did OK at Barnsley but he and his partner got a comfortable settlement from Leeds didn't they? Can't really see him wanting to move here when there will be comfy youth academy jobs available nearer home.
How about Paul Cox at Barrow? He's done well at Mansfield and has taken Barrow up to 5th in the Conference.
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Yeah, i hear what you're saying. I was looking forward to a season of stability and stress free footy but we'd have to employ someone pretty hopeless to mess up this squad in this league position. Oh!..........
Yep , now things are uncertain, we won't be relegated but my hopes for play offs are currently ruptured. I don't care who the manager is, so long as he comes here for the right reasons. I give zero intercourse , who becomes manager, becuase its out of my control.
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How about Paul Cox at Barrow? He's done well at Mansfield and has taken Barrow up to 5th in the Conference.[/quote] That would show some real ambition that
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Adkins tells Matt Dean he won't be applying but that means he won't get the job because we'd never be pro-active enough to ring him and ask him if he'd like to be considered.
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Given the stuff I've read on twitter today, I think people should manage their expectations here...
Adkins "flattered" to be linked, but says there's no contact. Matt Dean reckons it's unlikely to make a difference even if we pursued him.
Look lower rather than higher. Be honest, we were never going to offer the sort of salary Adkins would be looking at. We never do.
A shame, because I think it would have been a worthwhile investment for everyone. Including the board. Imagine how much more money would be available in the Championship. Could easily wipe out a benign loan for instance.
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I don't think we should overlook a non-league manager.
I know it feels like we should now ignore non-league and move onward (and upwards) but there are some good managers down there, working miracles on tiny budgets.
I think I'd rather appoint someone who'd be genuinely grateful for the opportunity to manage in the FL and would work his nuts off to make the most of the opportunity than appoint a manager who's effectively sliding down the ladder because he can't last more than 12-18 months at any one club.
I'm not saying we should totally disregard looking to someone with lots of league experience, just that we should keep our options open.
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How about Paul Cox at Barrow? He's done well at Mansfield and has taken Barrow up to 5th in the Conference.
That would show some real ambition that [/quote] It is as least as ambitious as having someone with no managerial experience or someone on the way down in their career. Quite a few posters seemed to think earlier on that we have done pretty well by appointing from below rather than blowing the budget on a "name".
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Neil Woods was supposed to be great with the youngsters and we all know where that ended up.
Winning trophys
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Winning trophys
I was thinking more about relegation out of the Football League, but perhaps you have been suspended in a time warp or hibernating for the past 7 years. How many trophies did he win?
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Curtis Woodhouse the latest favourite with Sky Bet and Adkins out to 3/1. I reckon they got about as much idea as we have. https://www.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/19928050
He must have put a bet on himself, doubt very much he has a chance but best not to say too much in case he comes round and punches me
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New concept forum football 2017
How about a collective fishy management, we put all our strengths into one CV. Then on the night before the next game we all discuss who the starting XI and subs for the game and the formation we will play. Then each game a different member of the fishy sends our selection by video link to Fenty & Co
Hang on, he might want to charge us £160 per selection
We already have the process set-up as we do this every week anyway
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On a serious note I want our next manager pitch side for the whole 90+ mins not keeping warm in the Main Stand.
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I saw an old Cod Almighty t-shirt earlier and thoughts drifted to Ivano Bonetti, I wonder what he is doing now? He was quite successful in Dundee for a while, though plenty of cash to splash. Maybe his odds will be shortened, especially if the ladies of Grimsby get to hear about it!
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On a serious note I want our next manager pitch side for the whole 90+ mins not keeping warm in the Main Stand.
I had no problem with PH spending part of the game in the Main Stand. The higher up you go in the stands the better perspective you get of the shape and performance of both sides. I sit half way up the Upper Findus , fairly close to the half way line and you get a really good view of how the game unfolds. When I used to go in the Lower Findus I never got this perspective. This was highlighted to me a lot when I used to watch games and then see the highlights on television. It was almost like watching two different games. I often think this is a reason why so many opinions of games differ on here. Different views do give differing opinions on how some players played and the overall shape and dynamic of the team.
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I had no problem with PH spending part of the game in the Main Stand. The higher up you go in the stands the better perspective you get of the shape and performance of both sides. I sit half way up the Upper Findus , fairly close to the half way line and you get a really good view of how the game unfolds. When I used to go in the Lower Findus I never got this perspective. This was highlighted to me a lot when I used to watch games and then see the highlights on television. It was almost like watching two different games. I often think this is a reason why so many opinions of games differ on here. Different views do give differing opinions on how some players played and the overall shape and dynamic of the team.
Jamie Clarke looked awefull from every vantage point
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Surprised that Gary Caldwell isn't getting many mentions, League one manager of the year last year with Wigan but without the profile of Adkins and so more likely to come to us.
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At the very least Curtis Woodhouse would be great at coaching for set pieces and corners. He was the last player to put a decent one in.
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To be fair, most of Woodhouse's set pieces weren't exactly that clever - he just punted lots of balls into the box towards our two 6'7" central defenders and it worked out from time to time, unsurprisingly!
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I had no problem with PH spending part of the game in the Main Stand. The higher up you go in the stands the better perspective you get of the shape and performance of both sides. I sit half way up the Upper Findus , fairly close to the half way line and you get a really good view of how the game unfolds. When I used to go in the Lower Findus I never got this perspective. This was highlighted to me a lot when I used to watch games and then see the highlights on television. It was almost like watching two different games. I often think this is a reason why so many opinions of games differ on here. Different views do give differing opinions on how some players played and the overall shape and dynamic of the team.
Really a very good point.
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According to the Cleethorpes Chronicle interview with John Fenty then......
JF "would like to think we're in safe hands with a good wide ranging board who, fingers crossed, can help appoint a lucky manager with good ability who can help take this club forward"...
thats me completely reassured then !!!
If we are finger crossing for a lucky manager then why not use this selection process ........take all the applications received to the boardroom....open the window....throw them all out into the car park and have one of the girls out of the ticket office catch one.... and hey presto....there is your new lucky boss.
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Jamie Clarke looked awefull from every vantage point
Unbelievably you got some red Xs for this ?
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Marcus Bignot now joint 2nd fav on sky bet at 5/2. Interesting reading his career so far. Done well overcoming many obstacles to get Solihull Moors to where they are now and holding their own in the National League. Think he would be a good fit. Worth reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36425814
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Dean Saunders?
For comedy value definitely!!! He loves to tell a story so press conferences would be good. Very good player and clearly has "unfinished business" as a manager. Also remember us playing away one Tuesday night at Sheffield U when he played for them we gave him dogs abuse about doing things with Shep and he took it all with a smile on his face and also gave us a bit back in the right way...........fair play! Top bloke I reckon but maybe not god for s as his media career may (possibly) have quelled his hunger to be a successful manager.
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Marcus Bignot now joint 2nd fav on sky bet at 5/2. Interesting reading his career so far. Done well overcoming many obstacles to get Solihull Moors to where they are now and holding their own in the National League. Think he would be a good fit. Worth reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36425814
Actually reading that is pretty inspirational as clearly he has the hunger and desire to succeed and is not afraid of working his way up. If PH had gone to Notts County last season I would have said definitely, where we are now I would say maybe worth an interview, I wonder if he has applied?
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It would surely be a mistake to bring in a player from yesteryear.
We need a new broom - a manager with fresh ideas who can regenerate the club from top to bottom.
Some of the names being trotted out reflect lack of imagination and vision.
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According to the Cleethorpes Chronicle interview with John Fenty then......
JF "would like to think we're in safe hands with a good wide ranging board who, fingers crossed, can help appoint a lucky manager with good ability who can help take this club forward"...
thats me completely reassured then !!!
If we are finger crossing for a lucky manager then why not use this selection process ........take all the applications received to the boardroom....open the window....throw them all out into the car park and have one of the girls out of the ticket office catch one.... and hey presto....there is your new lucky boss.
So that explains Rodger, Woods and Newell - did they catch Hurst and Scotts simultaneously?
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I think recruiting from below has much merit and has worked well for us in the past. Someone like Bignot would work his nuts off if given the chance and would think our set up is fantastic. Probably well on budget too.
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Whoever the new manager is, Bignot or Stockdale seem the most likely at the moment, I hope they quickly work out that two of Chambers, Tombola and Browne on the wings with Vose in behind Omar with two of Comley, McAllister and Dis sitting deeper would help us, we'd scare teams with pace wnd Vose centrally would be very dangerous, we'd have too many dangerous players to mark out of games hopefully.
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I'll admit he was probably close to the bottom of any wanted list I would have made when looking at prospective Town managers last week but the more I read and think about Marcus Big not the more he makes sense and seems like a positive selection. He's down a fantastic job at Solihull, winning the conference north last season after losing Omar was fantastic. He's worked his way up from the bottom and had an excellent education in football management. Ok he doesn't have league experience, but how important is that really? Surely if you can manage and organise a football team and prove to be tactically astute then you can transfer them skills up divisions. It's not like he's coming from a different country or culture.
Historically some of our most successful managers have taken the non-league route so why shouldn't we go down that path again.
He would undoubtedly get the best out of Omar too!
Has anybody seen his Solihull side play? What style of football does he get his team playing?
He has my vote (not that it counts for much of course) but I for one would be delighted if he took the job and confident he's the kind of manager to take us forward.
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Whoever the new manager is, Bignot or Stockdale seem the most likely at the moment, I hope they quickly work out that two of Chambers, Tombola and Browne on the wings with Vose in behind Omar with two of Comley, McAllister and Dis sitting deeper would help us, we'd scare teams with pace wnd Vose centrally would be very dangerous, we'd have too many dangerous players to mark out of games hopefully.
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I agree too, although it's not as if one line up or shape fits very game.
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Whoever the new manager is, Bignot or Stockdale seem the most likely at the moment, I hope they quickly work out that two of Chambers, Tombola and Browne on the wings with Vose in behind Omar with two of Comley, McAllister and Dis sitting deeper would help us, we'd scare teams with pace wnd Vose centrally would be very dangerous, we'd have too many dangerous players to mark out of games hopefully.
Whilst that may be so it is how the new manager sees our squad and how that fits with his perception of how he wants the game played. We may all think we are managers and can do better than the one we have, the fact remains it is down to him to do what he is paid to do.
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[quote=1354]I'll admit he was probably close to the bottom of any wanted list I would have made when looking at prospective Town managers last week but the more I read and think about Marcus Big not the more he makes sense and seems like a positive selection. He's down a fantastic job at Solihull, winning the conference north last season after losing Omar was fantastic. He's worked his way up from the bottom and had an excellent education in football management. Ok he doesn't have league experience, but how important is that really? Surely if you can manage and organise a football team and prove to be tactically astute then you can transfer them skills up divisions. It's not like he's coming from a different country or culture.
Historically some of our most successful managers have taken the non-league route so why shouldn't we go down that path again.
He would undoubtedly get the best out of Omar too!
Has anybody seen his Solihull side play? What style of football does he get his team playing?[b]
Watched them against Southport winning 4-0 Asante scoring a hatrick, second in a week. Asante and Sterling James most impressed me on the day. Asante similar to Bogle. Solihull have struggled in recent games, hardly surprising having just played Aldershot, Tranmere & Forest Green back to winning ways against Braintree yesterday.
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It would surely be a mistake to bring in a player from yesteryear.
We need a new broom - a manager with fresh ideas who can regenerate the club from top to bottom.
Some of the names being trotted out reflect lack of imagination and vision.
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Who would be on YOUR shortlist of 6?
I'd go for (in no particular order)
Adkins Evans Bignot Stockdale Roninson O'Driscoll
If we ended up with any opf those I would be reasonably happy
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Wilcox is a strange one. He's only managed for 103 games, yet has a record for an unbeaten run, a promotion and two sackings on his CV.
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Wilcox is a strange one. He's only managed for 103 games, yet has a record for an unbeaten run, a promotion and two sackings on his CV.
Yeh agree about a strange one but he will be definitely on budget so very probable but would he be classed as experienced ?
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Sometimes a manager can just strike it lucky like Willcox did at Scunthorpe with a squad signed by Laws that didn't need much tinkering, and a more or less injury free run. When he has had to build and manage his own squad he has been found wanting. A poor choice IMO.
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My personal preference is to go for Cowley at Lincoln tho that's starting to look unlikely. Bignott is sounding good tho has a great record at Solihull working on a very tight budget, remember him being interviewed on RH when we bought Bogle he came across very well in that interview. Struggling to think of anyone else I would like.
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Sometimes a manager can just strike it lucky like Willcox did at Scunthorpe with a squad signed by Laws that didn't need much tinkering, and a more or less injury free run. When he has had to build and manage his own squad he has been found wanting. A poor choice IMO.
he has got that here hasn't he? its a pretty good bunch of players in a pretty good league position with a majority shareholder who has a record of funding further player transfers
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Yeh agree about a strange one but he will be definitely on budget so very probable but would he be classed as experienced ?
No, clearly not on the experience front and i agree with RRFC, that he would be a poor choice. I expect he'll be in charge on Saturday.
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The more I look at the prospective candidates, the more confused I get - can we keep Mooro for a bit? I don't particularly want Robins or Wilcox (failed Scunny managers), Bignot or Cowley (lack of league experience) and I don't suppose Adkins really wants to be at our level.
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Keep Moore until Xmas see how we get on, players already coming out in support of him.
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Dave Moore doesn't want the job.
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I don't suppose Adkins really wants to be at our level.
He might not have a choice. I don't reckon he will be in heavy demand at league one level after what happened at Sheff United.
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Sometimes a manager can just strike it lucky like Willcox did at Scunthorpe with a squad signed by Laws that didn't need much tinkering, and a more or less injury free run. When he has had to build and manage his own squad he has been found wanting. A poor choice IMO.
Wilcox is totally uninspiring. OK he got lucky and won promotion mainly due to the unbeaten run which included a lot of dull draws. If you thought PH was dull in his post match interviews then this guy was worse, Not for me I'm out.
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Please not Russ Wilcox. Please.
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Keep Moore until Xmas see how we get on, players already coming out in support of him.
It would save a few £ if we combined manager and physio roles
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Plumping for Wilcox sounds like the worst option.
Adkins is obviously the preferred candidate by many
Evans has fallen out of site and not even being mentioned
Bignot sounds like he could be in with a chance
Stubbs (Alan not ray) isn't a bad option
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I like the idea of a joint physio/manager. Our player goes down injured, our players crowd round Dave to 'check if our player is alright'.
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Bignot was my choice from the start, will work on a budget and sounds like a very enthusiastic and positive manager, maybe he could get us winning at home.
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Would Moore we worth a punt at 33/1 ? As on sky bet it states the bet is valid if someone manages 10 competitive games - wouldn't be suprised to see Dave in charge for a few , so maybe . Fox
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Do we have a rota for the car park watch, or are the interviews being held at a secret location that will self destruct once the white smoke has risen?
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Just had to Goggle him but Guiseppe Sannino has just appeared in the betting for the next Town manager.
He's in his 18TH managerial job and is currently at Italian Serie B side U.S. Salernitana 1919.
No idea where that has come from!
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I think it will be one of the following: My moneys on Stockdale.
Bignott Stockdale Wilcox Weaver/McDermott (If Lee Mullen gets his way)
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Just had to Goggle him but Guiseppe Sannino has just appeared in the betting for the next Town manager.
He's in his 18TH managerial job and is currently at Italian Serie B side U.S. Salernitana 1919.
No idea where that has come from!
He's been on there a while. He was at Watford briefly, no idea why he's on there!
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But Mullen said Hursty was the best manager ever so he'd probably try and get him back. I have no where near as much respect for Mullen as I do Mr Fenty, he stook a minuscule amount in compared to Mr Fenty and thinks he runs the club. I know a lot of people criticise him but I feel the club would be in a bad place if he hadn't put his money where his mouth is.
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He's been on there a while. He was at Watford briefly, no idea why he's on there!
Ah right. I've been away since Thursday afternoon so was just having a look at the lastest odds.
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Don't know any of those doing the interviewing, but I hope they have the management skills to assess the applicants in a professional manner.
Just giving the job to a "mate" or someone who used to play for Town is not the way to appoint a successful manager.
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It would be a dream to appoint mangers such as Nigel Adkins and Karl Robinson, as it shows how far we've come. Although, I think that upcoming mangers such as Stockdale, Bignot, Cowely, would certainly be a good mix of traits.
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Skybet has removed/stopped all betting on who is going to be the Grimsby Town next manager.... Maybe temporary, or perhaps they know some credible info...
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Skybet has removed/stopped all betting on the Grimsby Town next manager.... Maybe temporary, or perhaps they know some credible info...
Let's (not big) this up it could be just a turn around of events
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The same thing happened last week. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Skybet has removed/stopped all betting on who is going to be the Grimsby Town next manager.... Maybe temporary, or perhaps they know some credible info...
Let's (not big) this up it could be just a turn around of events
The same thing happened last week. I wouldn't read too much into it.
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You're right... they've put it back up again on Skybet now. [url=https://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials] https://www.skybet.com/football/specials/manager-specials[/url]
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Will the interviewees be getting travelling expenses?
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Will the interviewees be getting travelling expenses?
Bus fare and a packed lunch. That's was good enough for me when i went to a job club while spending a short spell out of work.
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Someone actually said on Saturday that Dave jones is the boards preferred choice!!!!
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Someone actually said on Saturday that Dave jones is the boards preferred choice!!!!
apparently he's still very motivated and recently applied for the Ivory Coast job.Think he still watches a lot of footie and does some punditry work.he has a superb record and if he had an experienced lower league assistant with him he'd be a very interesting choice
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Someone actually said on Saturday that Dave jones is the boards preferred choice!!!!
Did Tony Crane tell you?
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Someone actually said on Saturday that Dave jones is the boards preferred choice!!!!
We don't want none of that Monkeying around here!
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Did Tony Crane tell you?
One of his disciples
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Haven't we had enough of Scouse managers? Wasn't Mick Lyons a scouser too? Seriously, Jones has no experience of the lower leagues. He'll not have Championship level budgets to throw around here. Wouldn't be my choice.
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Dave Jones wouldn't be a bad choice IMO, yes he's been out the game for a few years but has done a job wherever he's been and has managed at a higher level.
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Quoted from 97
Haven't we had enough of Scouse managers? Wasn't Mick Lyons a scouser too? Seriously, Jones has no experience of the lower leagues. He'll not have Championship level budgets to throw around here. Wouldn't be my choice.
Didnt he take Stockport up?
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Won promotion from League One with Sheffield Wednesday too.
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Didn't Stockport go on a mad cup run under him, beating loads of top sides? Think that is what first brought him to the attention of bigger clubs.
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Yeah ok, my argument is fatally flawed. I'm accepting that gracefully and I'm bailing out. would still prefer Bignot.
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He has been a good manager but he has been away for a long time and certainly it is a very long time since he was working in the lower leagues,
Not for me.
We need the up and coming not the down and going.
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He has been a good manager but he has been away for a long time and certainly it is a very long time since he was working in the lower leagues,
Not for me.
We need the up and coming not the down and going.
Dont we need the best man for the job? If he is up and coming then fine but I wouldnt rule anyone in or out based on some hypothetical stereotype. Just my opinion
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Hmm! Davie Jones --interesting--must have something in his locker, but I`d still like a younger guy with proven recent lower league experience, has to be Bignot doesn`t it, he would certainly have more knowledge of good players in and around our level.
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There have been much crazier suggestions than Dave Jones, wouldn't mind him or Bignot.
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Get yer money on Bignot. Currently 10/11 with skybet.
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Young and hungry manager for me. Look at Eddie Howe for Bournemouth, Took charge when they had a real threat along with us at relegation from league 2 in 2010, then 4-5 years later they find them selves in the premier league.
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Dont we need the best man for the job?
If he is up and coming then fine but I wouldnt rule anyone in or out based on some hypothetical stereotype.
Just my opinion
Exactly. I didn't put forward any stereotype. As I said, Jones has been out for a relatively long time and out of touch with lower leagues even longer. He has been a good manager but what is the point of employing him when there is someone on his way up who knows more about players to suit our status? If you appoint someone like Jones you have to appoint someone else as well to give him that knowledge.
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We don't know how out of touch he is, or isn't. He may well spend his spare time watching loads of games. He may still have plenty of relevant contacts and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what we think. Due diligence will only get you so far. Knowledge of lower league football will only get you so far. You still have to be a competent manager of footballers and even then, some managers click and some don't. Either him or Bignot could succeed or fail and we won't know that for a while yet, whoever gets the job.
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Another thing in Bignot's favour would be a very recent knowledge of all players in the higher non league teams, if we want to find the next hidden gem, as he did with Omar ??? Again - looking for players on the way up, not the multi team players who are looking for another pay day, as we have often been subjected to over the last set of managers, and occasionally with Hurst's poorer emergency signings for squad numbers. If he can also use a computer, then he has absolutely everything needed here !!!
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That's what i like about Jones. His teams play attractive, attacking football.
Well that`s what I really want to see I for one haven't felt particularly spoiled with what I have seen in that respect the past 6 years at home.
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My preference would still be Evans, Stubbs or Mackay if we could attract them but the more I hear about Bignot the more I'm warming to him. Jones would be welcome as well.
If the GTFC board are considering Knill, Robins or Wilcox then god help us
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My preference would still be Evans, Stubbs or Mackay if we could attract them but the more I hear about Bignot the more I'm warming to him. Jones would be welcome as well.
If the GTFC board are considering Knill, Robins or Wilcox then god help us
If anyone of those three were chosen, we are in for a melt down on here
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My downer about Jones is the lack of recent experience and potential lack of knowledge of the non league scene where we need to look for bargains for up and coming players, not the journeymen that Jones will probably know from his last job.
By the way, has he got a job in any form of football currently, scouting, commentating etc??
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That's what i like about Jones. His teams play attractive, attacking football.
Yes. He was a very good manager who could have been outstanding if he had not been almost forced out of the game by those false allegations. I felt he lost his spark somewhat through that. He was extremely good at Stockport and Southampton. He built some reasonable teams after that but maybe without quite the same pizazz even at Cardiff. Overall he only managed 3 promotions in 15 years. I just don't think he would be right for us in terms of relevant recent experience though and there is the geography factor too.
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Yes. He was a very good manager who could have been outstanding if he had not been almost forced out of the game by those false allegations. I felt he lost his spark somewhat through that. He was extremely good at Stockport and Southampton. He built some reasonable teams after that but maybe without quite the same pizazz even at Cardiff. Overall he only managed 3 promotions in 15 years.
I just don't think he would be right for us in terms of relevant recent experience though and there is the geography factor too.
1 in every 5 years. Positively Hurstian then. (though to be fair to Paul, it was a hard division to get out of).
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1 in every 5 years. Positively Hurstian then. (though to be fair to Paul, it was a hard division to get out of).
Ha but two ways of looking at that Kingston One it should be classed much easier because it was a lower division Two it was harder due to one automatic and one via play offs Either way im grateful were out
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My downer about Jones is the lack of recent experience and potential lack of knowledge of the non league scene where we need to look for bargains for up and coming players, not the journeymen that Jones will probably know from his last job.
By the way, has he got a job in any form of football currently, scouting, commentating etc??
That bit wouldn't worry me. He's from the north west and there are plenty of teams there and plenty of talented players from non league right up to the Premier League looking for opportunities. Teams like Morecambe and Accrington survive and compete because of it. Whether he is up to speed on this is another matter; we simply don't know. I'd be happy to see him here and he is probably looking for an opportunity to kick start his career, otherwise i don't think we'd be in with a shout but for his troubles.
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Betting has him at 1/1 with Jones at 9/4,--- writings on the wall now it seems
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Could the time have come to appoint a woman manager? If so, who might be the ideal choice?
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