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HertsGTFC
October 1, 2016, 9:26pm

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I was sat in the lower findus, as I always am. In my opinion, their left back would have been wrong if he didn't take Chambers out. Ashley was slightly, very slightly ahead of him and the ball was played ahead of the slightly out of position full back. I do not believe, for one minute the lad tried to slash Ashley's leg open. He won't have been wearing 'blades' or dodgy boots, they are checked by the officials.

Just because there is a nasty looking injury, it doesn't mean there should be an instant red card, it was one of those injuries, it happens. Their full back had to do the professional thing and either win the ball or take Chambers out.


Read what you have posted here back to yourself FFS ............ is taking another player out "professional" that's a term that can be used to describe many more good things in the game than that challenge.

Why is it right to take a player out? Agree he did not try and gash his leg but he clearly went in with enough force to cause what could have been a dangerous injury. You are right the officials check boots so if he was not wearing anything unsafe so he clearly went in with real intent to cause that type of gash.

I am not living in the dark ages thinking that we should play in a "corinthian spirit" but your logic suggests that you condone what is a really bad challenge.............I'd give Dave Challoner a call he likes that sort of thing.      


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October 1, 2016, 9:27pm
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Worse decision I've seen in ages and I've seen some bad ones
excrement ref again thought we had left them behind in conference
Someone who reads this thread should report this ref and he should get a ban or relegated
Chambers was obviously hurt bad
Red card 110%
Here is to a swift recovery Chambers


Not IMO. Was a 60/40 and the full back wasn't the favourite. He had to stretch, had to catch him or he's be a shite full back! When he missed the ball, it was probably a yellow. The injury doesn't make it a straight red for me, unless there was intent to hurt our player. There was intent to stop him, but not to injure him like that. My opinion anyway, the game is too soft now.
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Impossible for a ref to send a player off based on a resulting injury.
As an example, 2 players come together at the same point. One player breaks his ankle on impact . Doesn't make it a bad challenge so isn't a red card.
The same thing with chambers. I'm not saying if it was a foul or not as I couldn't tell you, but the defender could have won the ball and momentum took him through chambers and caused the injury. It's an awful injury but doesn't make it a red card.
Wish him a speedy recovery. Missed his hard work defensively today


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Going back just a few years at Sunday level, the refs check for suitable boots. I can't imagine 'blades' are allowed at that level or that the checking of boots isn't enforced.


Blades are certainly allowed at Sunday league level. Although regarding checking of boots, I agree this is something that used to happen before every match only a few years ago, however I haven't had boots checked with one random exception for quite a few seasons now.
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October 1, 2016, 9:35pm
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Will both have to see the challenge again Herts, I've no problem with the tackle as above. Will look again when it's online and we'll maybe comment again. I don't condone any tackle where the perpretrator tries to genuinely injure a fellow professional like that shithead Parkin on Josh Gowling in the final, but I've no issue with someone doing his job when the odds are against him in a fast moving environment. Or even if he knows he's beaten (not in this case) and taking one for the team.

It comes down to was there intent to inflict that injury? For me, I was ten yards away with a clear view. No, no intent. Intent to win the ball when up against it, intent to make sure the opponent didn't get away and take one for the team. Yes, yellow maybe at worst for me.
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Impossible for a ref to send a player off based on a resulting injury.
As an example, 2 players come together at the same point. One player breaks his ankle on impact . Doesn't make it a bad challenge so isn't a red card.
The same thing with chambers. I'm not saying if it was a foul or not as I couldn't tell you, but the defender could have won the ball and momentum took him through chambers and caused the injury. It's an awful injury but doesn't make it a red card.
Wish him a speedy recovery. Missed his hard work defensively today


Sorry, can't agree. Any challenge that causes an injury like that is a red card all day long.
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Not IMO. Was a 60/40 and the full back wasn't the favourite. He had to stretch, had to catch him or he's be a shite full back! When he missed the ball, it was probably a yellow. The injury doesn't make it a straight red for me, unless there was intent to hurt our player. There was intent to stop him, but not to injure him like that. My opinion anyway, the game is too soft now.


60/40 is about right in Chambers favour and your comment about taking Ash out is also right, therefore it was deliberate and a straight red. Intent to stop him has resulted in Chambers being out for 4 to 6 weeks, too soft, it's not Rollerball (film from 80's)


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It's on his thigh isn't it
Seems pretty high to me
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Red card all day long.


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October 1, 2016, 9:44pm
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60/40 is about right in Chambers favour and your comment about taking Ash out is also right, therefore it was deliberate and a straight red. Intent to stop him has resulted in Chambers being out for 4 to 6 weeks, too soft, it's not Rollerball (film from 80's)


There's a millisecond in it. It was in the middle right of the park, plenty of defenders in front of him. Their lad had to make the challenge, only he knows in his mind if he wanted to take Chambers out. If it was me, I'd have tried to win the ball, as soon as I'd stretched and lost out, I'd have made sure the lad didn't make me look a mug and gone through him, with the knowledge the ref would have know I'd played the ball, but in my head I'd have known I'd have taken the man as well. To be fair, he was so committed, he wouldn't have had much choice. Come on lads, most of us here have played the game at some crap level, it's the same at league 2 I'm sure!
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