labour council unable to make a decision shock!

Ok I've read the report and frankly it concerns me.

Essentially North East Lincolnshire have outsourced a review of 16 sites. This review seems pretty rigorous and realistic. It advises that 4 of the top 5 sites go forward. The Council has essentially ignored this report and added two sites. The Site that came top was ignored because of space considerations but this was re-inserted. The other site that was inserted was Freeman Street, which finished joint bottom of the review.

Having read reports like this all the time you often get a sense of which option is the Council preferred choice. In this case I have no doubt that Freeman Street is the preferred choice. First the fact they repeatedly mention the regeneration potential but more interestingly the fact that they've already had conversations with Shoreline over this matter.

Of course the Freeman Street plan is utterly crazy as all the problems associated with Blundell Park will be just as evident at Freeman Street. For example:
1. Like Blundell Park it will be difficult to police in a residential area.
2. The traffic issues will be the same - but it will be worse as the train station will be further away.
3. The East Marsh is not a good location for functions that are meant to make the stadium a 7 day a week money making opportunity.
4. There isn't the space for an enabling development.
5. Insurance will be expensive as the area is classified as been at risk of flooding.

Additionally people's homes will be bulldozed and as it's a residential area lots of people will have to put up with a big development being built around the corner from there house..

The Council's Freeman Street plan is entirely contingent on regeneration money, presumably from Europe. Except of course we may end up out of Europe in a couple of years. Obtaining regeneration money is also fiendishly complex and takes years.

Quite simply this Freeman Street plan is a disaster and one that we must oppose. I'm not saying that Labour are pushing this because there one councillor in Park ward (Peaks Parkway) is up for election in May, but....

In my view the most realistic place to build the stadium is Peaks Parkway with Morrisons probably in second place.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Ok I've read the report and frankly it concerns me.

Essentially North East Lincolnshire have outsourced a review of 16 sites. This review seems pretty rigorous and realistic. It advises that 4 of the top 5 sites go forward. The Council has essentially ignored this report and added two sites. The Site that came top was ignored because of space considerations but this was re-inserted. The other site that was inserted was Freeman Street, which finished joint bottom of the review.

Having read reports like this all the time you often get a sense of which option is the Council preferred choice. In this case I have no doubt that Freeman Street is the preferred choice. First the fact they repeatedly mention the regeneration potential but more interestingly the fact that they've already had conversations with Shoreline over this matter.

Of course the Freeman Street plan is utterly crazy as all the problems associated with Blundell Park will be just as evident at Freeman Street. For example:
1. Like Blundell Park it will be difficult to police in a residential area.
2. The traffic issues will be the same - but it will be worse as the train station will be further away.
3. The East Marsh is not a good location for functions that are meant to make the stadium a 7 day a week money making opportunity.
4. There isn't the space for an enabling development.
5. Insurance will be expensive as the area is classified as been at risk of flooding.

Additionally people's homes will be bulldozed and as it's a residential area lots of people will have to put up with a big development being built around the corner from there house..

The Council's Freeman Street plan is entirely contingent on regeneration money, presumably from Europe. Except of course we may end up out of Europe in a couple of years. Obtaining regeneration money is also fiendishly complex and takes years.

Quite simply this Freeman Street plan is a disaster and one that we must oppose. I'm not saying that Labour are pushing this because there one councillor in Park ward (Peaks Parkway) is up for election in May, but....

In my view the most realistic place to build the stadium is Peaks Parkway with Morrisons probably in second place.

Not disputing any of this but if Freeman Street were to be chosen, is the GRIMSBY DOCKS station no longer an option as a rail link?

I suspect that it would need upgrading which maybe financially prohibitive.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

I suspect that it would need upgrading which maybe financially prohibitive.

What for? New Clee has been OK and that's only a platform. In fact, proximity to the Docks station is a big plus point and the site is close to the end of the A180.

Having said that, there are other issues that would need considerable planning and the input of a developer. It would however contribute far more to the regeneration of the town than any other option and I suspect that is why the council have re-included it.

There was a great debate on Radio Humberside this morning.

Must admit I am fully inn the no to Peaks Parkway camp now. Europarc and Great Coates would be even worse though.

Melanie Onn made some good points and like him or loathe him De Freitas was fairly compelling as well.

I also feel the council would like it at Freemo because they have been banging on about re-generating that area for years. We've had artist mock ups of a pedestrianised Freeman street in the Telewag on more than one occasion but sodomist all ever comes of it. I suspect the draw for the council is the grant money available and the chance to kill 2 birds with one stone.It would also give them the chance to do something with the East Marsh which is an embarrassment in publicity terms and the least enviable borough in which to live in the entire country, according to a recent survey. They have just wasted sh1tloads building a swimming pool that nobody really wanted, so i won't hold my breath they will get the new stadium right, if they ever get round to doing it at all. The one thing this council seems to be good at is getting planning issues massively wrong on several occasions.

Quoted from psgmariner

There was a great debate on Radio Humberside this morning.

Must admit I am fully inn the no to Peaks Parkway camp now. Europarc and Great Coates would be even worse though.

Melanie Onn made some good points and like him or loathe him De Freitas was fairly compelling as well.

Totally agree about Europarc and Great Coates. Having always been in the no to Parkway camp I am just pleased people are coming to their senses and seeing a club that says it is part of the community must have a ground that actually benefits the community. That goes a lot further than just lettings and leisure activities.On the Parkway that can never happen, in fact the reverse.

So my vote would go to Freeman Street with Morrisons second if we have to have an edge of town stadium.

Quoted from psgmariner

There was a great debate on Radio Humberside this morning.

Must admit I am fully inn the no to Peaks Parkway camp now. Europarc and Great Coates would be even worse though.

Melanie Onn made some good points and like him or loathe him De Freitas was fairly compelling as well.

Not so sure, he started waffling on about the club wanting to open a restaurant "overlooking the cemetary gardens" which is total sensationalist rubbish.

Andrew DeFreitas could sign for us, score the winner to get us promoted, cure cancer after the end of the season and then headbutt David Cameron in the balls and I'd still think he was a grade A cockmuncher.