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Rob_in_Grimsby
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At present no retailer in their right mind would pitch up at Freeman Street.  The whole idea behind building a stadium at the top end of Freeman Street would be to give new life to the area.  It wouldn't be an area with eyesore flats and former buildings about to collapse, it would be a new shiny development in a very accessible part of the area.  


I get the idea but without a retail enabler I can not see the club getting enough grants to build the community stadium and as we are running at a loss who would fill the shortfall ?
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At least they didn't fall for the ukip idea of building it on the ex Tioxide site lol fish meal one side and the excrement farm next door lol what an atmosphere that would have been.
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The Labour council are clearly just mischief making and trying to hamper Fentys and the clubs progress , hopefully all Town fans will remember this come election time


No they aren't. Whatever they think of JF they know that there are much bigger issues here than a grass rectangle, some concrete, a car park and a bit of name calling the opposition. If they dive in and use taxpayers' money to support something that is clearly a minority interest in the local population they risk a lot more than just a couple of thousand votes.

This is a grown up world not a computer simulation, mistakes are punished. For a council the demise of a football club would be sad but not a disaster. Certainly not as big a disaster as letting a club build a stadium on a site that benefitted primarily the club and could cause more long term problems than it solves.

People should realise this is no easy decision because it affects the whole town. It may be unbelievable to some fans but most of the population are not all that interested in the football club. They are only interested in what result a new stadium will have for the town. So if the club wants a new ground it has to build it in the best place for the town.


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No they aren't. Whatever they think of JF they know that there are much bigger issues here than a grass rectangle, some concrete, a car park and a bit of name calling the opposition. If they dive in and use taxpayers' money to support something that is clearly a minority interest in the local population they risk a lot more than just a couple of thousand votes.

This is a grown up world not a computer simulation, mistakes are punished. For a council the demise of a football club would be sad but not a disaster. Certainly not as big a disaster as letting a club build a stadium on a site that benefitted primarily the club and could cause more long term problems than it solves.

People should realise this is no easy decision because it affects the whole town. It may be unbelievable to some fans but most of the population are not all that interested in the football club. They are only interested in what result a new stadium will have for the town. So if the club wants a new ground it has to build it in the best place for the town.


It never bothered them over the swimming pool fiasco..... What is it, 8 million and counting.

A shower of shite, the lot of em


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It never bothered them over the swimming pool fiasco..... What is it, 8 million and counting.

A shower of shite, the lot of em


Chalk and cheese acko. I don't have much time for them either and the pool is money down its drain. But I'm just trying to make the point that right or wrong the council is not going to do what the club wants just because a minority of the population and the club want it. It simply won't happen like that.

It isn't just the money it's the long term things like regeneration, housing development and roads and the local plan comes into it as well. Putting a huge thing like a stadium in the wrong place now has knock-ons for years to come. The politicians will probably get it wrong, they do with most things in the town. But they have to at least look as though they have thought about it properly and they are never going to be doing that as fans of GTFC. Supporters have got to accept the fact and make the best of it wherever the new ground is eventually built because without council backing and planning there won't be one. It's like it or lump it time.


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Yeah I see where your coming from RR. To be honest I'm just sick of it all now, its been 20years and basically were no further on from when it was first mentioned.

Just fed up with the situation in all honesty RR


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Yeah I see where your coming from RR. To be honest I'm just sick of it all now, its been 20years and basically were no further on from when it was first mentioned.

Just fed up with the situation in all honesty RR


Only 20 years? I've been waiting 50!   Ever since old Wouldy offered Town the site on Cambridge Road more or less where Aldi is now and the board turned it down.



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The Labour council are clearly just mischief making and trying to hamper Fentys and the clubs progress , hopefully all Town fans will remember this come election time


The Tory's ran  the council for long enough and nothing moved stadium wise
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Quoted from dapperz fun pub


The Tory's ran  the council for long enough and nothing moved stadium wise


The Tory/Lib Dem unholy alliance was running NELC at the time of the Great Coates fiasco....


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Aye,I can't understand anyone being enough of a girl private to be a Tory, but claiming that their opposition is the only reason we're not playing in ConocoFentyParkway Stadium? Jesus wept.
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