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I have been mulling this over for sometime and i have an idea. If we as fans could get enough people together who are share holders at the club we could do the following! 1) Arrange for as many share holders as possible to attend the up coming AGM and propose and vote onto the board somebody selected by the shareholders involved, this would get some influence on the board and as long as we had enough votes then it would happen as with any AGM it is one vote per shareholder no matter how many shares (unless it is the mojority holder who then has a casting vote in a deadlock situation) This may seem like a far fetched idea but things have to change and it wont happen outside the boardroom. 2) Once the person is on the board the shareholders pool there shares to allow that person to have greater voting rights (an agreement that they are returned after say 10 years could be agreed) Once this is in place the shareholders who have pooled the shares will in essence set up a board of there own which will make choices and give ideas to be put at board level, it is simple currently we are going round in circles and it will take balls from the two men involved or something unique from others to move the club forward and i belive that a club run by people who have the club at heart (and not the money) is the best way forward.
Right so i can hear you thinking but if they get on the board they wont have the money to move the club on! So here are just a few ideas! There is so much untapped support from local business and if the story is spun in the right way and not in the normal bundled pr disaster it will generate intrest from national and international business. Multi use of the ground and the future move away from Blundell park to a ground that would allow club to operate sensibly and to a tight budget. If the figures are to belived then we have a wage budget of around 17k a week and based on a 52 week year (due to contracts) the income based on 2500 gates is less than half that! looking at players that can play at this level and that dont demand high pay is vital for the club to thrive and that will require scouting the non leagues!!! I appreciate that not everybody wants to be so involved but just imagine a true supporters voice with fresh ideas and instead of knowing nothing been involved in the very fabric of the club we all love.
If you could keep the negative remarks to a minimum i have delicate eyes
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why dont you ask the Trust they keep saying theyve got 20,000 shares and by the looks of things theres no Trust anymore so theres 20000 shares doing nothing!!
Asking the trust would be a great place to start. However the second half of your sentence lacks substance, so I suggest you get off your arze, walk into the kitchen and make yourself a nice big cup of shut the fu(k up.. . . .Thanks
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Guttedgate |
September 23, 2011, 2:11pm |
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I would only be intrested in working with the trust on any future plans. They are in a difficult position as they have had very little say in the day to day running of the club if any at all.
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I have been mulling this over for sometime and i have an idea. If we as fans could get enough people together who are share holders at the club we could do the following! 1) Arrange for as many share holders as possible to attend the up coming AGM and propose and vote onto the board somebody selected by the shareholders involved, this would get some influence on the board and as long as we had enough votes then it would happen as with any AGM it is one vote per shareholder no matter how many shares (unless it is the mojority holder who then has a casting vote in a deadlock situation) This may seem like a far fetched idea but things have to change and it wont happen outside the boardroom. 2) Once the person is on the board the shareholders pool there shares to allow that person to have greater voting rights (an agreement that they are returned after say 10 years could be agreed) Once this is in place the shareholders who have pooled the shares will in essence set up a board of there own which will make choices and give ideas to be put at board level, it is simple currently we are going round in circles and it will take balls from the two men involved or something unique from others to move the club forward and i belive that a club run by people who have the club at heart (and not the money) is the best way forward.
Right so i can hear you thinking but if they get on the board they wont have the money to move the club on! So here are just a few ideas! There is so much untapped support from local business and if the story is spun in the right way and not in the normal bundled pr disaster it will generate intrest from national and international business. Multi use of the ground and the future move away from Blundell park to a ground that would allow club to operate sensibly and to a tight budget. If the figures are to belived then we have a wage budget of around 17k a week and based on a 52 week year (due to contracts) the income based on 2500 gates is less than half that! looking at players that can play at this level and that dont demand high pay is vital for the club to thrive and that will require scouting the non leagues!!! I appreciate that not everybody wants to be so involved but just imagine a true supporters voice with fresh ideas and instead of knowing nothing been involved in the very fabric of the club we all love.
If you could keep the negative remarks to a minimum i have delicate eyes
Not a bad idea in essence but the company's Articles of Association would prevent this. New board members have to bear a proportional share of the company's debt either through shares, loans or guarantees as I understand it. And before anyone points out the obvious, I think John Elsom and Mike Chapman were appointed before the Articles were drawn up.
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Guttedgate |
September 23, 2011, 2:23pm |
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And that is why GTFC should re think the way in which it is run because the articles have been put in place to protect the board and not the club! (dodgy comment maybe but very true) and just to put something to you the club can appoint a non executive director at any point and that director doesnt have to shoulder any of the debt or future problems. As i see it one of the biggest problems is that the board are so rapped up in personal issues and how the club is funded and they are not considering that the continued funding at the present rate not only harm the club but end it! Start thinking outside box Fenty,MP and crew or a great club will be down the pan allong with your money!
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September 23, 2011, 2:25pm |
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And that is why GTFC should re think the way in which it is run because the articles have been put in place to protect the board and not the club! (dodgy comment maybe but very true) and just to put something to you the club can appoint a non executive director at any point and that director doesnt have to shoulder any of the debt or future problems. As i see it one of the biggest problems is that the board are so rapped up in personal issues and how the club is funded and they are not considering that the continued funding at the present rate not only harm the club but end it! Start thinking outside box Fenty,MP and crew or a great club will be down the pan allong with your money!
Yes....very good point about the non executive director!
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80sglory |
September 23, 2011, 3:18pm |
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I have been mulling this over for sometime and i have an idea. If we as fans could get enough people together who are share holders at the club we could do the following! 1) Arrange for as many share holders as possible to attend the up coming AGM and propose and vote onto the board somebody selected by the shareholders involved, this would get some influence on the board and as long as we had enough votes then it would happen as with any AGM it is one vote per shareholder no matter how many shares (unless it is the mojority holder who then has a casting vote in a deadlock situation) This may seem like a far fetched idea but things have to change and it wont happen outside the boardroom.
2) Once the person is on the board the shareholders pool there shares to allow that person to have greater voting rights (an agreement that they are returned after say 10 years could be agreed) Once this is in place the shareholders who have pooled the shares will in essence set up a board of there own which will make choices and give ideas to be put at board level
Correct me if I'm wrong but you're suggesting minority shareholders set up their own board to "make suggestions" to 1 newly elected non executive board member voted in through an AGM ? Will the board listen even if they elect one person onto it ? Good idea but if you want change shouldn't you be looking at voting MULTIPLE "non executive directors" onto the board ?
Multi use of the ground and the future move away from Blundell park to a ground that would allow club to operate sensibly and to a tight budget.
Why do you need to move away from BP to operate sensibly and to a tight budget ? IF BP is losing money there is plenty of room for improvement ? If we're supposedly skint and the club is at risk are you seriously telling me we can move to this new stadium without paying a penny ?
If the figures are to belived then we have a wage budget of around 17k a week and based on a 52 week year (due to contracts) the income based on 2500 gates is less than half that! looking at players that can play at this level and that dont demand high pay is vital for the club to thrive and that will require scouting the non leagues!!!
Unless you make limited signings and go with what in all essence would be the youth team ?
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September 23, 2011, 3:21pm |
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I never said the GTST were faultless, I also said fresh blood needs to be pumped into the supporters trust, generating fresh ideas and adopting a different approach, parallel to GTFC. Last time people took a small interest in the supporters trust I made clear I would like to to be involved, and although nothing came of it, I'll say it again I'd like to be involved because I love this club and would rather stand and and speak up instead of not fighting. Instead of waiting for things to go mammaries up and saying "What could we have done?", try making a difference instead of being critical of others attempts. Also, if you want to get personal, say it to my face tomorrow. . . . .I dare you.
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GollyGTFC |
September 23, 2011, 3:24pm |
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Not a bad idea in essence but the company's Articles of Association would prevent this. New board members have to bear a proportional share of the company's debt either through shares, loans or guarantees as I understand it. And before anyone points out the obvious, I think John Elsom and Mike Chapman were appointed before the Articles were drawn up.
The requirement for being a director was considered to be 500 shares and to loan the club £50,000 wasn't it? The second of these stipulations being the stumbling block for the GTST. Both Elsom and Chapman have loans in the club don't they? A point lost to the idiots who call them freeloaders and think they are only on the board for their own ends.
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