GTST - Very Quiet

Where does the Trust stand in all of this?

Well from what their ex chairman said when all this kicked off the Trust Board members have lost interest

I don't think that is what he said. I think he said the supporters have lost interest in the trust. Apologies if I've got that wrong.

It's not quiet at all. There's a whole thread on this topic.

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1316504070/

The ex cbairmans of the GTST quote

"There is still a Board in existance and the Trust still owns 20,000 shares.  Sadly, though, there wasn't the appetite to move on from that position and a number of Board members lost heart"



So theres the answer to your question!!

Quoted from the Grimbarian

The ex cbairmans of the GTST quote

"There is still a Board in existance and the Trust still owns 20,000 shares.  Sadly, though, there wasn't the appetite to move on from that position and a number of Board members lost heart"



So theres the answer to your question!!

Instead of complaining ask to join the board?

Quoted from GrimRob

It's not quiet at all. There's a whole thread on this topic.

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1316504070/

I think it is very quiet from the trust on this... The only person I can see who has spoken on behalf of the trust is Tarka and he is an ex member of the trust... Unless you have seen something else rob...???

Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner

Instead of complaining ask to join the board?

just to help you understand

THE TRUST BOARD MEMBERS ARENT INTERESTED ANYMORE

Quoted from the Grimbarian

just to help you understand

THE TRUST BOARD MEMBERS ARENT INTERESTED ANYMORE

Ask to replace them then

just to help you understand

So a trust setup to support the club etc is a trust which is full of those fans who have no longer a true interest in tw club when it could really do with their interest etc...no Disrespect to the people involves past and present but what a waste of time in all honesty.

Is that assign of how far we've fallen and how bad we've become or is it that they have just got pisses off and thought 'intercourse it'...

Not saying i disagree with the trust but I am one of te few that doesn't really get this 'giving up' type
Mentality, whilst it's excrement 'I'm not interwated' attitude...inthought you support a football team through everything??? Just a mere observation...

Haha,

vast majority of Town fans are not interested in the supporters trust, been running how long? how many members? they have virtually given up (certainly on big ideas of a place on the board due to lack of general interest).
Things look a bit uncertain and suddenly people start saying they have been quiet, what are the trust doing !!

GTST have had their own power struggle.

They may well have but considering you'd regard people involved with the trust to be the sort that travel everywhere to watch town and support them no matter what it seems some have jumped ship since we've been shite...

Quoted from aldi_01

They may well have but considering you'd regard people involved with the trust to be the sort that travel everywhere to watch town and support them no matter what it seems some have jumped ship since we've been shite...

It just needs fresh blood pumping into it.

Quoted from Rich Boy

GTST have had their own power struggle.

Oh really? Do tell us more?

3 of the stalwarts of the Trust Board are mates of mine and while I can't and don't speak for them, I'd say that years of effort and hard work resulted in very little interest from the majority of Town fans. I've got a good idea of the effort put in year after year. So I wouldn't blame anyone for losing heart.

Like all supporters trusts, GTST is a member driven organisation. If members want to and are able to put themselves forward for the board or help in any capacity then the door's open. If any non-members want to make a difference they can join and put themselves forward. If no one puts in a shift then nothing happens.

Quoted from TWAreaTownSupporter

3 of the stalwarts of the Trust Board are mates of mine and while I can't and don't speak for them, I'd say that years of effort and hard work resulted in very little interest from the majority of Town fans. I've got a good idea of the effort put in year after year. So I wouldn't blame anyone for losing heart.

Like all supporters trusts, GTST is a member driven organisation. If members want to and are able to put themselves forward for the board or help in any capacity then the door's open. If any non-members want to make a difference they can join and put themselves forward. If no one puts in a shift then nothing happens.

Well said that man

Theres more chance of the Titanic being raised than this ever succeeding anyway what was the power struggle all about is it more than Tarka was letting on??

Quoted from the Grimbarian

The ex cbairmans of the GTST quote

"There is still a Board in existance and the Trust still owns 20,000 shares.  Sadly, though, there wasn't the appetite to move on from that position and a number of Board members lost heart"



So theres the answer to your question!!

I think if you read that quote a little more carefully you will realise that it was written in the past tense.  "A number of Board members lost heart" does not refer to present Board members as I am sure even you will understand (and before you ask...no, I wasn't referring to myself. My decision to leave the Board was for wholly different reasons)..

Quoted from Rich Boy

GTST have had their own power struggle.

Absolute nonsense.

So explain whats going on then if youre nitpicking at what any one posts about it??

For the record - I contacted Emma in March about helping the Trust, and filled out membership forms and wrote a cheque, but she told me not to send it in as they don't have the personnel to process it. She said she would publish a list of roles that needed filling, and then get back to me... Still not heard anything from her.

Surely I'm not the only person that is willing to get involved. Would be great to get a response from a current Trust board member that could advise the best way to move things along, rather than just calling each other names on here.

Tried this email address?
enquiries@gtst.net
It's their advertised address for correspondance so may (or may not) be monitored regularly...? Worth a try if not used before?

Quite clearly somebody from the trust needs to come out and say whether they're interested in continuing the trust or not... To treat people like they have with regards to what Will Haddock has said (if true and i've no reason believe he would be lying) is bang out of order...

Quoted from aldi_01

So a trust setup to support the club etc is a trust which is full of those fans who have no longer a true interest in tw club when it could really do with their interest etc...no Disrespect to the people involves past and present but what a waste of time in all honesty.

Is that assign of how far we've fallen and how bad we've become or is it that they have just got pisses off and thought 'intercourse it'...

Not saying i disagree with the trust but I am one of te few that doesn't really get this 'giving up' type
Mentality, whilst it's excrement 'I'm not interwated' attitude...inthought you support a football team through everything??? Just a mere observation...

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I'm assuming then that you are an active member of the trust who has commited time and effort to helping GTFC.

How anyone can criticise the efforts of those involved in the trust whilst they themselves have done absolutely nothing is beyond me.

Quoted from cardiffmariner

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I'm assuming then that you are an active member of the trust who has commited time and effort to helping GTFC.

How anyone can criticise the efforts of those involved in the trust whilst they themselves have done absolutely nothing is beyond me.

2 points...

Firstly, how can anyone be a member of the trust if they don't respond as in Will Haddocks case...???

Secondly, nobody forced the members of the trust to join, they did so on their own free will... If they don't want to be involved then that is fair enough but surely somebody, if there is anybody, who does want to continue needs to come out and say so... If they don't then people won't know what is going on and will criticise...

''absolutely nothing''

Kind of why people are probably criticising them, nobody knows whats going on

I didn't join the trust because in honesty I didn't see what joining would achieve and what the trust would achieve. It's going back to this elitist idea of who is a better football fan than the next person...surely my continued purchasing of a season ticket, shirt, scarf and trips away as well as cup games etc is equally as important as those in the trust, I still go when judging from comments, some don't. My choice I know and theirs too but one can't start saying who is a bigger fan thanthe next etc...

Quoted from voice of reason

Quite clearly somebody from the trust needs to come out and say whether they're interested in continuing the trust or not... To treat people like they have with regards to what Will Haddock has said (if true and i've no reason believe he would be lying) is bang out of order...

I agree with you mate because its a urine poor showing to do this!!

Quoted from aldi_01

I didn't join the trust because in honesty I didn't see what joining would achieve and what the trust would achieve. It's going back to this elitist idea of who is a better football fan than the next person...surely my continued purchasing of a season ticket, shirt, scarf and trips away as well as cup games etc is equally as important as those in the trust, I still go when judging from comments, some don't. My choice I know and theirs too but one can't start saying who is a bigger fan thanthe next etc...

Which is a bit of a constant problem on this forum too!

I also show my support through purchasing tickets, merchandise etc.  If I didn't I would struggle to be able to call myself a fan at all.  My point is that those involved in the trust have also done this and also gone beyond the average fan stuff.  How successful this has been is obviously debatable but to criticise them for this effort seems churlish to me.

There seems to be a suggestion that they are simply a bunch of egotistical mates who dont really have GTFC at heart but are more concerned about being the bigger/better fan.  I don't know enough about the trust or individuals involved to know how true this is.

No, it isn't true....I can't speak for the present Board so I won't even try.  However, my motivation for joining the Trust (and the Board for that matter) was not to be a better or more superior fan but because I believed in the concept of supporter involvement in running football clubs.  This of course was quite a difficult concept to sell to others whilst everything seemed rosy and stable at the top with a multi-millionaire Chairman at the helm.

Despite that problem and a lack of numbers joining we did raise twenty odd thousand (most of which was within the period of the "Keep the Mariners Afloat" campaign). We also developed good links with the football club and John Fenty in particular.

After seven years as Chairman I had to leave because of what was going on in my life but, quite frankly, I would have been tempted to go anyway.  More than just apathy, there seems to be a general feeling of "what will the Trust do for me?" which is totally missing the point! The Trust is OUR opportunity as fans to have an influence on what happens at Grimsby Town but for it to succeed WE have to participate and help. For whatever reason (probably my own failings) we failed to get people to understand that point.

It isn't the end of the world however and the Trust is not beyond saving if people wish to do that.

On a final point, Grimbarian....I realise you are not the sharpest pencil in the case but can you please get this into that neolithic cranium of yours, I am no longer a member of the Board of GTST.  You can behave like a fly that desperately needs swatting if you like and your constant little digs may give you some sort of peverse satisfaction (and I think the subject of what gives you satisfaction has been well documented in previous threads) but your comments are futile as I don't think there is a current member of the Board who reads this messageboard with any degree of regularity!

Quoted from tarka

No, it isn't true....I can't speak for the present Board so I won't even try.  However, my motivation for joining the Trust (and the Board for that matter) was not to be a better or more superior fan but because I believed in the concept of supporter involvement in running football clubs.  This of course was quite a difficult concept to sell to others whilst everything seemed rosy and stable at the top with a multi-millionaire Chairman at the helm.

Despite that problem and a lack of numbers joining we did raise twenty odd thousand (most of which was within the period of the "Keep the Mariners Afloat" campaign). We also developed good links with the football club and John Fenty in particular.

After seven years as Chairman I had to leave because of what was going on in my life but, quite frankly, I would have been tempted to go anyway.  More than just apathy, there seems to be a general feeling of "what will the Trust do for me?" which is totally missing the point! The Trust is OUR opportunity as fans to have an influence on what happens at Grimsby Town but for it to succeed WE have to participate and help. For whatever reason (probably my own failings) we failed to get people to understand that point.

It isn't the end of the world however and the Trust is not beyond saving if people wish to do that.

On a final point, Grimbarian....I realise you are not the sharpest pencil in the case but can you please get this into that neolithic cranium of yours, I am no longer a member of the Board of GTST.  You can behave like a fly that desperately needs swatting if you like and your constant little digs may give you some sort of peverse satisfaction (and I think the subject of what gives you satisfaction has been well documented in previous threads) but your comments are futile as I don't think there is a current member of the Board who reads this messageboard with any degree of regularity!

Genuine question Tarka... Are those that was last involved with the trust when you was there still interested in moving things forward...??? I understand you may not know the answer if you haven't been involved for a while...

Would you ever be interested in getting involved with it again...???

How can the trust be saved if no-one responds to people, as in Will Haddocks case...???

Why has Grimbarian got such an obsession and downer on the trust...??? Have you any idea...???

Quoted from voice of reason

Genuine question Tarka... Are those that was last involved with the trust when you was there still interested in moving things forward...??? I understand you may not know the answer if you haven't been involved for a while...

Would you ever be interested in getting involved with it again...???

How can the trust be saved if no-one responds to people, as in Will Haddocks case...???

Why has Grimbarian got such an obsession and downer on the trust...??? Have you any idea...???

I am sure the current Board members would consider moving things forward again IF more people (and particularly local people) were prepared to be involved.  Far be it from me to speak for Emma but I know that she is restricted on what she can do because of the fact that she lives out of town and has a demanding job which often takes her out of the country.

I feel the Trust could be saved but there would need to be a real indication of willingness from people!

Grimberian? Oh, who knows!  He was criticising the Trust before it was even formed!!  I think he's an attention seeker and he finds GTST an easy way of getting it.  

In terms of my involvement I would be prepared to reconsider but only if there was an indication of greater involvement from others...the job was soul destroying at times and I have no intention of putting myself through that again.

Quoted from tarka

I am sure the current Board members would consider moving things forward again IF more people (and particularly local people) were prepared to be involved.  Far be it from me to speak for Emma but I know that she is restricted on what she can do because of the fact that she lives out of town and has a demanding job which often takes her out of the country.

I feel the Trust could be saved but there would need to be a real indication of willingness from people!

Grimberian? Oh, who knows!  He was criticising the Trust before it was even formed!!  I think he's an attention seeker and he finds GTST an easy way of getting it.  

In terms of my involvement I would be prepared to reconsider but only if there was an indication of greater involvement from others...the job was soul destroying at times and I have no intention of putting myself through that again.

Fair enough... Thanks for the answers... Maybe there could be some sort of release in the telegraph asking people to respond if they're interested in joining the trust and committing themselves in some sort of way...??? Can't really think of any other way of being able to gauge people's opinion...

Im still waiting for the slander and libel paper you promised Tarka ill even PM you my address if you want it and BTW this was because i critised the Trust from start to finish and ended up being threatened with this by GTST.Ill give Grim Rob and Billo credit as thery didnt ban me or interfere with what was put on the MB by me when I was doing all this and the deplorable thing about this is even a member of my family were approached by a GTST Board member at the time of all this going on moaning at him about what i was doing.

I'll give you one thing...you're persistant. Bless xxx

Im just being honest about the situation which is something youre incapable of doing and people know this by the reaction you give.

Keep going son...get it off your chest.

Quoted from the Grimbarian

my family were approached by a GTST Board member at the time of all this going on moaning at him about what i was doing.

If I was a member of your family I'd try and keep it quiet. I'd be embarrassed.

You're like one of those nutters who writes "green" letters of complaint to the BBC about everything.

Quoted from aldi_01

I didn't join the trust because in honesty I didn't see what joining would achieve and what the trust would achieve. It's going back to this elitist idea of who is a better football fan than the next person...surely my continued purchasing of a season ticket, shirt, scarf and trips away as well as cup games etc is equally as important as those in the trust, I still go when judging from comments, some don't. My choice I know and theirs too but one can't start saying who is a bigger fan thanthe next etc...

What gives you that idea? Genuinely, I'm interested how you could come to this conclusion.

Quoted from Rich Boy

GTST have had their own power struggle.

Come on. Tell us. What's this power struggle?

Tell us. Or do you just write down any randonm shitthat comes into your mind?

as 1 of the people involved in initially getting the Trust ball rolling I can only echo what tarka said - it was an attempt to get gtfc fans united in a constructive body that would help support the club.at the time there were a number of different bodies (supporters clubs/it's a grim exile/ disabled supporters/ travel clubs/international supporters) who were all supporting the club but doing their own thing, but nost felt that if it could be pulled together under the trust banner we could have a strong body which would a) represent the fans , who many felt had been woefully neglected, b) be a postive voice for change and c) raise money/suupport for the club in a time of need.
the initial meeting was superb, but unfortunately since then it has gone steadily downhill. the prime reason for this was that the enthusiasts were in the main living out of gy. for the Trust to regain ground it needs a body of committed enthusiasts from the gy area.Trouble is there is no evidence  in the 10(?) years of the Trusts existence that there is that body of people within Town's supporter base.
as seems so unfortunately usual, gy fans are brilliant in their moaning from the sidelines but hugley incapable of getting off their backsides and doing something about it

Quoted from aldi_01

I didn't join the trust because in honesty I didn't see what joining would achieve and what the trust would achieve. It's going back to this elitist idea of who is a better football fan than the next person...surely my continued purchasing of a season ticket, shirt, scarf and trips away as well as cup games etc is equally as important as those in the trust, I still go when judging from comments, some don't. My choice I know and theirs too but one can't start saying who is a bigger fan thanthe next etc...

maybe we should have a poll for who is the best fan, my vote goes to john fenty, obviously

Mine goes to tarka any others??

My vote goes to fannies.

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Mine goes to tarka any others??

Awwwwww.....thanks Tony.  I'm touched xx

Quoted from tarka

Awwwwww.....thanks Tony.  I'm touched xx

Is this the tony that was in the GET after the match on Tuesday with another bloke being interview in the IMP car park ?

http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....28-detail/story.html

Quoted from Super Clive

Is this the tony that was in the GET after the match on Tuesday with another bloke being interview in the IMP car park ?

http://www.thisisgrimsby.co.uk.....28-detail/story.html

lol...the very same!

You mean the cad with the strange voice?

Come on Rich Boy. What's this power struggle that the Trust have been involved in?

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Mine goes to tarka any others??

Humbo, you could raise a lot of money for the club if that was you jumping off a building like in your picture thing.

x 10 if it was 100ft down onto concrete.

Let me know when I'll drive you to the venue.

Quoted from TimMickleburgh

You mean the cad with the strange voice?

Now now Tim, don't take the Michael because of his voice.

Mock him for being what a woman gets 2 days after having a Brazilian.

Quoted from TWAreaTownSupporter

Now now Tim, don't take the Michael because of his voice.

Mock him for being what a woman gets 2 days after having a Brazilian.

Stubble...?

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Mine goes to tarka any others??

Is this the Tarka who intervened with John Fenty to stop you getting a ban from B.P.?

Whose the sig aimed at grimbarian???

No one

I thought this thread might give information about what's been going on with the trust in recent months / years, but instead all we get is a petty squabble and feeble insults.  Disappointed.

Well this is life on here people dont like opinions so it gets personal and petty and paranonia slips in  

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Well this is life on here people dont like opinions so it gets personal and petty and paranonia slips in  

Remove the signature please

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Well this is life on here people dont like opinions so it gets personal and petty and paranonia slips in  

Its quite clear your being a massive nob, unless you have a reasonable explanation why you have that sig, I will assume it is aimed at wrawbs which is quite sad really for a man of your age helmet  

Quoted from Super Clive

Its quite clear your being a massive nob, unless you have a reasonable explanation why you have that sig, I will assume it is aimed at wrawbs which is quite sad really for a man of your age helmet  

Agreed.

If the poster doesn't remove it,then the mods should.