20 league games under Artell

Quoted from pontoonlew

If we’re talking about Artells abilities as a manager, how is his work in the transfer market at all ‘countered’ by losing Conteh? He couldn’t help that happening and if anything it’s a further demonstration that Artell has done okay.

The fact a large chunk of our fans didn’t see Conteh leaving as a big thing tells you all you need to know, it was absolutely blindingly obvious.

If we win today our form in the past 10 games (which includes the Donny result) is that of a mid table side, that’s a steadier ship and something to build on. Yet again the reaction on this board to 2 defeats against good teams has been completely over the top.

Letting Conteh go was a scramble for cash following the “one out one in” line.  Offer the lad more cash and he would have extended if indeed he had a release. Doubt he did, a release clause mid season. If so who negotiated that one. ?

Quoted from GibMariner

Letting Conteh go was a scramble for cash following the “one out one in” line.  Offer the lad more cash and he would have extended if indeed he has a release. Doubt he did, a reales clause mid season. If so who negotiated that one. ?

The cash we got for him will be far less than the loss in revenue when we fall back into the NL.

I think it was reported that a clause in his contract was activated as soon as the bid came in? If it's in the contract, there isn't anything we can do about it if he wants to leave.

The weakness of the squad was there to see today. Rose was buggered with 20 minutes to go, but we didn't have anybody to bring on who can play a similar role. Hurst signed 1 player capable of leading the line with no back-up (Pyke doesn't count). Artell didn't sign anyone who could do that job, either, but I'm guessing that was as much to do with not being able to find anybody suitable during the January window. Always difficult to make good signings then as you are only ever signing players a team isn't bothered about keeping.

Quoted from GibMariner

Letting Conteh go was a scramble for cash following the “one out one in” line.  Offer the lad more cash and he would have extended if indeed he had a release. Doubt he did, a release clause mid season. If so who negotiated that one. ?

Absolutely this. The owners give every impression of just wanting to make everyone happy, including other clubs who won't lift a finger to help us unless it helps them. How's the tie up with Luton going?

If a players agent insists on a release clause that means we get half a season from a player who we then have to let go for not that much then look elsewhere or drive a better bargain.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Absolutely this. The owners give every impression of just wanting to make everyone happy, including other clubs who won't lift a finger to help us unless it helps them. How's the tie up with Luton going?

If a players agent insists on a release clause that means we get half a season from a player who we then have to let go for not that much then look elsewhere or drive a better bargain.

Would not have happened under John's watch... just saying

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

If a players agent insists on a release clause that means we get half a season from a player who we then have to let go for not that much then look elsewhere or drive a better bargain.

So the player goes elsewhere, we don't make money selling him on and sign a less effective journeyman from elsewhere? Or take a gamble on another youngster who isn't as highly-rated?

You seem to be arguing against buying young players with the intent of developing them and making a profit. I thought everybody agreed this was a good idea for a lower division club? I seem to think it was reported that we were one of several clubs in for Conteh and he chose us. The release clause is probably one of the reasons why.

I don't blame Conteh (or his agent). It was the lack of a Plan B when he left which had cost us. Thompson has improved us a bit in the middle, but the others around him have remained poor due to their inherent limitations. Yesterday yet another example of a game where we struggled to string more than a few passes together in midfield before losing possession. Obviously, Ainley's illness wasn't something which could be expected and I suspect he'd have made a difference had he been fit to play as he has a huge amount of League experience in comparison to our other midfield options.

Let's hope he can come in to perhaps make a little bit of a difference in the remaining games.

Quoted from male private Nale

Would not have happened under John's watch... just saying

Absolutely 100% - as John wouldn’t have paid for him in the first place!!

Quoted from Maringer

So the player goes elsewhere, we don't make money selling him on and sign a less effective journeyman from elsewhere? Or take a gamble on another youngster who isn't as highly-rated?

You seem to be arguing against buying young players with the intent of developing them and making a profit. I thought everybody agreed this was a good idea for a lower division club? I seem to think it was reported that we were one of several clubs in for Conteh and he chose us. The release clause is probably one of the reasons why.

I don't blame Conteh (or his agent). It was the lack of a Plan B when he left which had cost us. Thompson has improved us a bit in the middle, but the others around him have remained poor due to their inherent limitations. Yesterday yet another example of a game where we struggled to string more than a few passes together in midfield before losing possession. Obviously, Ainley's illness wasn't something which could be expected and I suspect he'd have made a difference had he been fit to play as he has a huge amount of League experience in comparison to our other midfield options.

Let's hope he can come in to perhaps make a little bit of a difference in the remaining games.

Getting young players in and selling them for a profit can certainly be a part of a plan to progress in the future.

That does not mean they call all the shots; we should be able to keep a player for a full season if he is a major part of your team, that should have part of the deal. If that is the only way you can attract said young player then walk away and spend your money elsewhere. You can't plan anything if your better players play only a handful of games.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Getting young players in and selling them for a profit can certainly be a part of a plan to progress in the future.

That does not mean they call all the shots; we should be able to keep a player for a full season if he is a major part of your team, that should have part of the deal. If that is the only way you can attract said young player then walk away and spend your money elsewhere. You can't plan anything if your better players play only a handful of games.

But that would have meant not having a better player for half the season (better than none) and turning down 300k for selling him. Buying Conteh was about the only bit of this season that was a success!

21 league games under Artell (and 22 in total) and here's how those 22 have gone...

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