Forest points deduction

Quoted from MarinerMal

Nobody gets relegated or promoted in the NFL either making it a closed shop. The NFL's competition rules are more about protecting the current franchises than making sport fairer.

They also get their players from College football which is, in itself, big business, I suspect. The 'draft' of players is a good idea, but not really workable now that the big clubs have manufactured the EPPP to steal young talent from smaller clubs. Scumbags. The gutless F.A. shouldn't have allowed that to happen.

Doesn't change the fact that their system simply works better than the free for all we see in England, at least.

The big clubs here have always dominated, but there has been the odd outlier, such as when Leicester won remarkably the other year. I don't think that would be possible now, even though it is less than a decade later.

Quoted from Maringer

They also get their players from College football which is, in itself, big business, I suspect. The 'draft' of players is a good idea, but not really workable now that the big clubs have manufactured the EPPP to steal young talent from smaller clubs. Scumbags. The gutless F.A. shouldn't have allowed that to happen.

Doesn't change the fact that their system simply works better than the free for all we see in England, at least.

The big clubs here have always dominated, but there has been the odd outlier, such as when Leicester won remarkably the other year. I don't think that would be possible now, even though it is less than a decade later.

Agree with you re younger players and the current system is an absolute joke.

Reference trying to get equity in football that is, IMO, both unachievable and in itself unfair. I think there is a fundamental difference between clubs that generate their own incomes and those who are a billionaire’s play thing. Clubs with bigger crowds, better marketing and better facilities should be rewarded for this with Spurs being an excellent example of this with their new multi use stadium and surrounding infrastructure making them one of the top ten income generating clubs worldwide. In addition they have also invested significantly in the local community building educational facilities with plan to build affordable housing also in the pipeline.

Inequality comes about when clubs like Man City, Newcastle and Chelsea are owned by multiple billionaires and/or states who can in reality just keep pumping millions into their playing budgets every single season. In the lower leagues we have seen this with Wrexham and Stockport but at least these are supporting clubs with a long history and significant support base. Whereas Salford and Forest Green are vanity projects which in reality are never ever clubs who will attract even an average suppporter base never mind a significant one.

Major problem is always that most supporters are extatic when their clubs get a wealthy new owner believing the holy grail of the Premiership is within their grasp. As I say I don’t have a problem with big clubs being rich as long as it’s self generated.

Quoted from MarinerMal

It is easier to put such stipulations on a sport when you are the only country in the world that plays that sport professionally. Football is played in just about every country around the world and so putting financial limits is always going to be problematic.

Nobody gets relegated or promoted in the NFL either making it a closed shop. The NFL's competition rules are more about protecting the current franchises than making sport fairer.

The only problem with the Premier League introducing financial limits is that they would effectively be handing over their mantle as the best league in the world.  You limit what clubs can spend and they'll have to cut their cloth accordingly, that inevitably would mean to spend on players wages and that highest calibre of player go to Spain, Germany, Italy, Saudi...wherever is prepared to pay top brass.

Personally I've absolutely no issue with that.  Was top flight football less enjoyable when it was Micky Quinn banging in goals as opposed to Erling Haaland?  Or when Gary McAllister was pulling midfield strings instead of Kevin De Bruyne?  

Of course it'll never happen because turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

Forest’s point deduction will be overturned. If the EFL weren’t legally allowed to sanction Leicester City for seasons when they were a member of the PL I don’t see how the PL can sanction Forest in relation to seasons when they were in the EFL.

Financial FairPlay is pointless in the PL. It should be abolished as it restricts the smaller clubs. If it was abolished it would be easier for smaller clubs to make rapid and large investments in their squad. The bigger clubs would still be restricted by the UEFA FFP system.

FFP was 100% introduced in the PL to stop another upstart like Leicester coming along and winning the title and taking a Champions Leagye slot.

It might have been introduced (FFP) due to the financial issues when Portsmouth got relegated.

Quoted from ginnywings

The football governance bill is introduced into parliament today.

Can't help but feel it won't make a lot of difference as the wealthy clubs have been allowed to accrue too much power, but we live in hope.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68602074

Premiershite will find away round any attempt of the EFL getting share greedy batards totally ruined the game

At the end of the day Forests owner thought he was above the law and wildly overspent in the belief that they would only get a fine which he could afford as a self entitled billionaire. Worse case scenario they’d get a points deduction but it wouldn’t affect them because they’d signed players that would’ve got them in a safe position. Unluckily for Forest those £300m worth of players have done remarkably less well than Stavros imagined and now they might get relegated and lose £150m next season.
Shame . Forest cheated and they’ve got what they deserve. Hope them or Everton get relegated.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

At the end of the day Forests owner thought he was above the law and wildly overspent in the belief that they would only get a fine which he could afford as a self entitled billionaire. Worse case scenario they’d get a points deduction but it wouldn’t affect them because they’d signed players that would’ve got them in a safe position. Unluckily for Forest those £300m worth of players have done remarkably less well than Stavros imagined and now they might get relegated and lose £150m next season.
Shame . Forest cheated and they’ve got what they deserve. Hope them or Everton get relegated.

Yeah i did wonder at the time how signing 25+ players would have an impact on their season, it was a bit reckless to be fair and was a massive kick in the teeth for some of the players that help get them there and probably wouldn't get a look in.  They have also don't have Cooper who helped them stay up with all those players (probably some he didn't even ask for) and I think they will get relegated.  

How can over 100 charges against Man City just keep  floating around without a proper investigation and penalties if found to have broken FFP rules.

Do City have better lawyers and able to fend off the charges because of their financial power ??

Quoted from acko338

How can over 100 charges against Man City just keep  floating around without a proper investigation and penalties if found to have broken FFP rules.

Do City have better lawyers and able to fend off the charges because of their financial power ??

It takes considerably longer to gather evidence for 100 charges than it does for 3 I guess . They do keep reiterating that they are a different type of offence though