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I think it is clear that we are not going to be outbidding other teams in terms of fees and wages, so coupled with our location, it's going to be tough to convince players to choose us over others who have more to offer young players.
We can say until we are blue in the face that all it takes is money, but the board have told us they are not going to do that, so we are shopping in a limited market.
It's a question of sustainability versus quick results and it seems the board prefer the first option and want to play the long game. We either support them or we don't, but constantly going round in circles arguing about it isn't going to change anything.
I think the owners need to wake up then sharpish. Fans aren't going to keep buying season tickets on the assumption we are shopping in a limited market. A club of our size should be making a fist of it in league 2 - indeed they said we would not be making the numbers up. Steady progression is great, but they also have to be realistic about the costs of getting better players in.
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Somebody will come along in a minute putting you right. Carlisle will be perfect for league 2 players everywhere from Lands end to John o groats. Why, they would even go there if our terms were better than theirs. There might even be a higher ethnic population to encourage black players lol
What on earth are you talking about?!?!?
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What on earth are you talking about?!?!?
I assume it relating to the odd ball comment about black players earlier in the thread.
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What on earth are you talking about?!?!?
I'm mocking Knuts post intimating that players won't come to Grimsby, especially black ones because we are not ethnically diverse enough.
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Why can't we offer better wages, we are getting 3 x the fans than some of these "massive" clubs like Salford. We won't spend it, not can't spend it. The fans really do need to wake up and smell the coffee, we are being taken for a ride.
Exactly. They won't spend money that will put the club in financial peril. That way lies Scunny, or even worse, Bury. I'm sure the Bury fans loved it when they were bringing in players they couldn't really afford and ripping up the league, but I bet they wish they still had a league club more.
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I think the owners need to wake up then sharpish.
Fans aren't going to keep buying season tickets on the assumption we are shopping in a limited market.
A club of our size should be making a fist of it in league 2 - indeed they said we would not be making the numbers up.
Steady progression is great, but they also have to be realistic about the costs of getting better players in.
They don't "have to" or "need to" do anything just because some fans think they should. My point is that whether you, me or anybody else thinks that they should be doing xyz is irrelevant. They have a long term plan and rightly or wrongly they are going to stick to it. You and others keep saying that players will come if they chuck money at it, but they have said they won't do that in preference of long term sustainability and we either support their vision or we don't. We don't have a say in it, just like we didn't when JF was head honcho. They fund the club and they decide how to run it. If fans say they will stop attending if they don't splash the cash, then that's their prerogative. Constantly arguing about budgets and player acquisition is fruitless.
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Of course we have. Nobody is disputing that.
But we will rarely be a player’s first choice. The more desirable players will have other options which is why recruitment is so difficult for us. It gets harder every year.
Grimsby and Lincs have a lot of positives but very little for the average twenty-something footballer.
Likewise, you could offer to treble my salary and I still wouldn’t move back to the east coast because, in terms of what I spend my income on (food, travel, culture), there is very little for me over there.
You could spend more on travel if you moved to the East coast
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Someone quoted earlier in this or another thread that Hurst has signed, since his return, 50 players so any argument that players won’t come here is pretty much blown out of the water by those numbers. What we are not attracting are players of the required standard and quality hopefully that will be corrected in the next two weeks.
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They don't "have to" or "need to" do anything just because some fans think they should.
My point is that whether you, me or anybody else thinks that they should be doing xyz is irrelevant. They have a long term plan and rightly or wrongly they are going to stick to it.
You and others keep saying that players will come if they chuck money at it, but they have said they won't do that in preference of long term sustainability and we either support their vision or we don't. We don't have a say in it, just like we didn't when JF was head honcho. They fund the club and they decide how to run it.
If fans say they will stop attending if they don't splash the cash, then that's their prerogative.
Constantly arguing about budgets and player acquisition is fruitless.
You summed up our position perfectly, as highlighted.
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You summed up our position perfectly, as highlighted.
Doesn't that position apply to virtually every league club? The difference between the fans view and the owners vision applies to any club.
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