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Norseman
December 30, 2022, 1:09am
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I fully understand how pixxed off everyone was at half time tonight .But cannot see what benefit booing the side off brings .Not 1 of those players or the management needed telling how poor things were but personally don't believe booing does anything to lift players
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Boo!  
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It's not supposed to lift them, it's to show how fcuking rubbish a performance they've put in and to pull theirsocks up, much as cheers and rounds of applause are to show how good a performance and well done lads.
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The players and manager need to know it’s not acceptable to lose 1-4 at home , they also need to know it’s not acceptable to have one of the worst home records in the league .

Having only enough ambition to be happy finishing 3rd from bottom every year was how Fenty and the happy clappers managed to get us relegated twice
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I think they know that. Booing won't help in my opinion
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And there was me thinking the players set out to lose and play as badly as they did last night.

Booing what are largely a group of heroes from only this summer is so stupid. The rest have all been the best thing since sliced bread at some point after joining the club recently too. It’s like there can be no middle ground.

And to those arguing that you’re allowed an opinion - of course you are? It’s great to have opinions from all sides. But why not turn to your mate that you go with and sulk, or moan to your grandad as you walk back to the car? Why people think it’s helpful to boo is beyond me. The same goes for verbally abusing our own players. There was at least one instance of someone offering one of our players a fight last night. Losing football matches is rubbish, abuse is “unacceptable”.
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Quoted from Norseman
I fully understand how pixxed off everyone was at half time tonight .But cannot see what benefit booing the side off brings .Not 1 of those players or the management needed telling how poor things were but personally don't believe booing does anything to lift players


Of course the HT booing helped, they then came out and managed to draw the second half.
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over 5k people have backed them with their hard earned cash only to be served up 2 home wins all season let alone that first half performance.

How you can question the boos?

Most managers would be gone with that type of record, so a few boos at half time is getting off lightly.
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Quoted from Norseman
I fully understand how pixxed off everyone was at half time tonight .But cannot see what benefit booing the side off brings .Not 1 of those players or the management needed telling how poor things were but personally don't believe booing does anything to lift players


An alternative would be to refund everybody's admission money.



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Quoted from DB


An alternative would be to refund everybody's admission money.



Dangerous precedence.


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Dangerous precedence.


But if you buy anything that is not up to scratch you get a refund or replacement. Surely the same principle applies.




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December 30, 2022, 11:26am
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The Manager’s view on booing the players after a first half shellacking:


‘As these notes were written between training sessions, after our heavy defeat [in our last match], obviously it is not one of the better times to be writing them.

I suffered a lot of personal embarrassment while watching last [night’s] game, there are a lot of good things about the club; the facilities, the excellent playing surface provided to us, people who run various match day functions, and not least, the people at boardroom level who desperately want (as we all do) to be successful.

To concede three quick goals at home in the first half is little short of disgraceful and while not taking anything away from a very confident and talented opponent, our defending left a lot to be desired.

Various pre-match planning and systems of play count for nothing in football if players make very basic mistakes for whatever reason.

We are at the moment very inconsistent in a lot of our play.

The feed-back I get from people is very good, and bodes well for the future, you supporters kept off our “backs” on Saturday - in spite of the result - which in my opinion was worse than than the performance, was commendable.

As I have said before, the secret of success is hard work - that being the case we will be alright’.


Sir Alan Buckley - 19.04.88

After last night’s first half spanking, Alan Buckley’s programme notes ( 24.09.88 )show that performances like that (and poor runs like the current one) happen to the best of them…
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A few boos were well earned last night.
I am pro Hurst and he will sort this but we have not really got to grips with L2, a few lucky away wins and diabolical at home.
We have a lot of players who are lower L2 /national league level. I see no lack of effort just skill levels. Another 6/7 wins should keep us up and I think that we will get them. I still fancy us more away. We lack pace through the team and I would like to have another centre half ( not a loan). The full backs are also bang average. Midfield is OK but we need a winger with pace and two average hold up the ball forwards who can win a header.
Starting with no forward and having completely inexperienced lads to bring on is a disgrace at this level.
For me we need about 5 new players which is a lot for Jan. There are several players that need resting/dropping but we have so few choices. Also Taylor has been badly missed.
Not downbeat yet and would take a point versus Stockport and that will be hard
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Key points in there are, I think, the remarks that all the training, planning, briefing, preparations etc count for nothing if the players make basic mistakes. This is the present reality. Too many players making poor decisions, ‘switching off’ at key moments, making technique errors etc, and what then happens is….confidence drops and a losing mentality can pervade. I think this is where we are generally - several players not at the required standard in their form, together with us being short of a player or two (although every club will say that). Add into that - unforced errors like ‘slips’ which are leading to goals conceded: take Crocombe’s slip at Harrogate or Khan’s last night. Don’t know if it’s credible to attach blame to the ‘wrong boots’ though.


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Booing happens, West Ham fans have just booed their team off two nil down at home to Brentford. You’re never going to stop people having an opinion, much like the rant about fans on Twitter. Same with what the chairman said about social media last night.

Thankfully, he knows a bit more about how to handle himself on social media than his predecessor.
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The Manager’s view on booing the players after a first half shellacking:


‘As these notes were written between training sessions, after our heavy defeat [in our last match], obviously it is not one of the better times to be writing them.

I suffered a lot of personal embarrassment while watching last [night’s] game, there are a lot of good things about the club; the facilities, the excellent playing surface provided to us, people who run various match day functions, and not least, the people at boardroom level who desperately want (as we all do) to be successful.

To concede three quick goals at home in the first half is little short of disgraceful and while not taking anything away from a very confident and talented opponent, our defending left a lot to be desired.

Various pre-match planning and systems of play count for nothing in football if players make very basic mistakes for whatever reason.

We are at the moment very inconsistent in a lot of our play.

The feed-back I get from people is very good, and bodes well for the future, you supporters kept off our “backs” on Saturday - in spite of the result - which in my opinion was worse than than the performance, was commendable.

As I have said before, the secret of success is hard work - that being the case we will be alright’.


Sir Alan Buckley - 19.04.88

After last night’s first half spanking, Alan Buckley’s programme notes ( 24.09.88 )show that performances like that (and poor runs like the current one) happen to the best of them…


That was his 4th League game in charge and he was about to bring in players of the quality of Gilbert , Childs , Rees etc so a rather different context I would suggest.
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I have supported Town for nearly 68 years and have never bood our players once.

I do not see what benefit it would achieve , our players are human and make mistakes the same goes to all players from all teams.

I have watched town play rubbish on many occasions and I have seen them play good football scoring plenty of goals.

We go up we go down on regular occasions and sometimes we just stay put for a while.

I have seen us lose when we should have won and win when we should have lost on many occasions .

At the end of the day they are our team and we should be proud of them because on our day I have seen us beat Liverpool. Man City. Chelsea. Everton . Spurs and many other so called big teams.

So when we play badly and lose a few games I think it will change soon and we will soon be back on a winning run.

New year new start ?  

Keep the faith .


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You buy a ticket you can express yourself how you want as long as it’s legal and non discriminatory not sure booing falls into those categories. I don’t boo what we do badly but understand why others do, their choice.


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I think booing, especially during the match is a very English thing,

Has it ever worked? Unlikely, will people claim it’s their right to do it? Absolutely…

Seen games abroad when teams are significantly worse than we were on Thursday, fans didn’t boo during the game, they encouraged, they supported their team. Once the final whistle went, then they let their feelings known.

As we saw last season during our poor spell, we’re seeing it again, giant man babies seeing their bottom and shouting their mouths off. They have little to say that’s of any interest but they argue it’s their right. Perhaps it is but those few that seemingly can’t wait for a bad run because they don’t like Hurst are genuinely pathetic…

Saw the argument of ‘sack him’ and then when someone questioned them about replacement, their repo and ‘that’s above my pay grade…’…very flipping weird….


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I think booing, especially during the match is a very English thing,

Has it ever worked? Unlikely, will people claim it’s their right to do it? Absolutely…

Seen games abroad when teams are significantly worse than we were on Thursday, fans didn’t boo during the game, they encouraged, they supported their team. Once the final whistle went, then they let their feelings known.

As we saw last season during our poor spell, we’re seeing it again, giant man babies seeing their bottom and shouting their mouths off. They have little to say that’s of any interest but they argue it’s their right. Perhaps it is but those few that seemingly can’t wait for a bad run because they don’t like Hurst are genuinely pathetic…

Saw the argument of ‘sack him’ and then when someone questioned them about replacement, their repo and ‘that’s above my pay grade…’…very flipping weird….


Agree


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I think booing, especially during the match is a very English thing,

Has it ever worked? Unlikely, will people claim it’s their right to do it? Absolutely…

Seen games abroad when teams are significantly worse than we were on Thursday, fans didn’t boo during the game, they encouraged, they supported their team. Once the final whistle went, then they let their feelings known.

As we saw last season during our poor spell, we’re seeing it again, giant man babies seeing their bottom and shouting their mouths off. They have little to say that’s of any interest but they argue it’s their right. Perhaps it is but those few that seemingly can’t wait for a bad run because they don’t like Hurst are genuinely pathetic…

Saw the argument of ‘sack him’ and then when someone questioned them about replacement, their repo and ‘that’s above my pay grade…’…very flipping weird….


Booing may be an English thing and if it is then its the tamest of ways to deliver your disapproval of the way things are going. You only have to look across into mainland Europe to see how Ultras show their feelings to squads by turning up en masse at training sessions etc.

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December 31, 2022, 10:23am

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Booing may be an English thing and if it is then its the tamest of ways to deliver your disapproval of the way things are going. You only have to look across into mainland Europe to see how Ultras show their feelings to squads by turning up en masse at training sessions etc.



I’ve been part of said protests but during a game they support their side…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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I've been lucky enough to play in front of crowds of a few hundred over my "career." If I got stick off the opposing fans it seemed to galvanise me more but on the occasions when our fans slagged me off I can't remember a time when it made me play better, a liittle bit more nervous with my touch, a little less eager to receive the ball and a little less confident to hold onto the ball. I've never booed and I've never singled out a player by shouting. Completely counter-productive towards the common goal of players and fans wanting to win the same game.

It makes my blood boil when listening to the singling out of Michee Efete nigh on every single game, most when he hasn't been anywhere near our worst player and sometimes when he's been one of our best. Before the Salford game he'd had a decent run of performances, but reading on here and Twitter you wouldn't know it. Maybe it's the safety in the mob mentality where someone wants to write something negative so the Efete bandwagon is a safe post to write, one that the writer's peers will give them a like or a tick. This is bad.. but even much worse is the clever loudmouth bellowiing in the player's ear while he's actually playing, that's a fooking disgrace. They're letting the player down, the team down and the fans down who are all hoping for a positive result.

In the end.. Michee will be alright. He's going to have a good career, hopefully here at GTFC. But a growing part of me wants him to have it elsewhere and shove the ignorant criticism of him by some dikkhead fans of ours right down their throats..
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I've been lucky enough to play in front of crowds of a few hundred over my "career." If I got stick off the opposing fans it seemed to galvanise me more but on the occasions when our fans slagged me off I can't remember a time when it made me play better, a liittle bit more nervous with my touch, a little less eager to receive the ball and a little less confident to hold onto the ball. I've never booed and I've never singled out a player by shouting. Completely counter-productive towards the common goal of players and fans wanting to win the same game.

It makes my blood boil when listening to the singling out of Michee Efete nigh on every single game, most when he hasn't been anywhere near our worst player and sometimes when he's been one of our best. Before the Salford game he'd had a decent run of performances, but reading on here and Twitter you wouldn't know it. Maybe it's the safety in the mob mentality where someone wants to write something negative so the Efete bandwagon is a safe post to write, one that the writer's peers will give them a like or a tick. This is bad.. but even much worse is the clever loudmouth bellowiing in the player's ear while he's actually playing, that's a fooking disgrace. They're letting the player down, the team down and the fans down who are all hoping for a positive result.

In the end.. Michee will be alright. He's going to have a good career, hopefully here at GTFC. But a growing part of me wants him to have it elsewhere and shove the ignorant criticism of him by some dikkhead fans of ours right down their throats..


Efete is the boo boy for literally no logical reason. Interesting that I counted as many mistakes from other players on Thursday, including Mcatee but for some reason they didn’t get the same stick…


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There was a young ish guy behind me on Thurs that was screaming abuse at Efete from the kick off.

He's nowhere near good enough to be a professional footballer apparently, never mind good enough for us. Should be in the National League North at best according to the gobby fooker.

I think they just like everyone in a hundred yard radius to hear their opinion, even if it is repeated ad nauseam and usually wrong anyway.
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Efete is the boo boy for literally no logical reason. Interesting that I counted as many mistakes from other players on Thursday, including Mcatee but for some reason they didn’t get the same stick…


It always seems to be wide players who get the stick, wingers and full backs. The crowd can get on their back for half the game and don't notice in the other, but they get stick from the other stand. People playing more central positions are out of earshot and don't get as much abuse.


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I've been lucky enough to play in front of crowds of a few hundred over my "career." If I got stick off the opposing fans it seemed to galvanise me more but on the occasions when our fans slagged me off I can't remember a time when it made me play better, a liittle bit more nervous with my touch, a little less eager to receive the ball and a little less confident to hold onto the ball. I've never booed and I've never singled out a player by shouting. Completely counter-productive towards the common goal of players and fans wanting to win the same game.

It makes my blood boil when listening to the singling out of Michee Efete nigh on every single game, most when he hasn't been anywhere near our worst player and sometimes when he's been one of our best. Before the Salford game he'd had a decent run of performances, but reading on here and Twitter you wouldn't know it. Maybe it's the safety in the mob mentality where someone wants to write something negative so the Efete bandwagon is a safe post to write, one that the writer's peers will give them a like or a tick. This is bad.. but even much worse is the clever loudmouth bellowiing in the player's ear while he's actually playing, that's a fooking disgrace. They're letting the player down, the team down and the fans down who are all hoping for a positive result.

In the end.. Michee will be alright. He's going to have a good career, hopefully here at GTFC. But a growing part of me wants him to have it elsewhere and shove the ignorant criticism of him by some dikkhead fans of ours right down their throats..


Brilliant post. Totally agree.


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Regards Efete --
He wasn't even the worst right back on the pitch. No chance.
Salfords was worse and they won 1-4 so surely he isn't the main reason we lost the game like some idiots are suggesting

Christ, some of those saying he isn't a footballer would have a heart attack doing the warmup


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Quoted from Bigdog
I've been lucky enough to play in front of crowds of a few hundred over my "career." If I got stick off the opposing fans it seemed to galvanise me more but on the occasions when our fans slagged me off I can't remember a time when it made me play better, a liittle bit more nervous with my touch, a little less eager to receive the ball and a little less confident to hold onto the ball. I've never booed and I've never singled out a player by shouting. Completely counter-productive towards the common goal of players and fans wanting to win the same game.

It makes my blood boil when listening to the singling out of Michee Efete nigh on every single game, most when he hasn't been anywhere near our worst player and sometimes when he's been one of our best. Before the Salford game he'd had a decent run of performances, but reading on here and Twitter you wouldn't know it. Maybe it's the safety in the mob mentality where someone wants to write something negative so the Efete bandwagon is a safe post to write, one that the writer's peers will give them a like or a tick. This is bad.. but even much worse is the clever loudmouth bellowiing in the player's ear while he's actually playing, that's a fooking disgrace. They're letting the player down, the team down and the fans down who are all hoping for a positive result.

In the end.. Michee will be alright. He's going to have a good career, hopefully here at GTFC. But a growing part of me wants him to have it elsewhere and shove the ignorant criticism of him by some dikkhead fans of ours right down their throats..


Excellent post, Michee works really hard to be honest and I’ll be more than happy to see him start for a good while yet.


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On the subject of Efette, I thought overall he had a decentish game, however I get frustrated when he is in a position to launch a cross into the box (and yes there were players in the box against Salford), and then passes it sideways or backwards, I can only assume it's a policy of PH to try and walk the ball into the net.
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Efete is no way near good enough to be a football league player and no doubt will show that next year when he ends back up in non-league. Fans are entitled to an opinion as that's what they pay their money for, his defending for Harrogate's 2nd goal was absolutely comical, and most games I've been to this year he's looked like our weak link who's scared shitless of a football whenever it comes near him.
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Efete is no way near good enough to be a football league player and no doubt will show that next year when he ends back up in non-league. Fans are entitled to an opinion as that's what they pay their money for, his defending for Harrogate's 2nd goal was absolutely comical, and most games I've been to this year he's looked like our weak link who's scared shitless of a football whenever it comes near him.


Which is interesting when we concede most goals down the left…


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Which is interesting when we concede most goals down the left…


Obviously our left hand side is weak. But the amount of times there's somebody unmarked between Waterfall and Efete is criminal. I'm not sure who is at fault, I'm inclined to say it's Waterfall, because he never ever seems to be marking a man to me, but I know Hurst likes zonal marking which would make it Efete's man. Unless we play the hybrid zonal from set pieces and man mark from open play...

That being said, I don't understand the abuse of Efete. He had a couple of bad games, came out of that really strongly and he wasn't even in the top 5 for worst players against Salford.
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If you want someone to perform better at anything, I’ve always found encouragement works far better than endless criticism.
People that are shouting criticism need to realise it’s counter productive. Also there seems to be some of the crowd that are silent when things are going well, but wake up if it’s not and then are vocal.
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Which is interesting when we concede most goals down the left…


Not when I've been to watch them, stats can be manipulated to whichever way you want them to look. I just don't rate him whatsoever and whenever he receives the ball just fills me with dread, you know he's going backwards or sideways. Doesn't help that Cropper is injured and he knows he's basically undroppable, I just don't think he has what it takes to be a footballer in the Football League.
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Fella behind me in the upper giving Efete abuse all game I snapped and had a go at him.. never understood what makes these people tick.. fair enough he didn't have a great game but the abuse is really not helping.
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Not when I've been to watch them, stats can be manipulated to whichever way you want them to look. I just don't rate him whatsoever and whenever he receives the ball just fills me with dread, you know he's going backwards or sideways. Doesn't help that Cropper is injured and he knows he's basically undroppable, I just don't think he has what it takes to be a footballer in the Football League.


You're only seeing what you want to see. Last few games Efete has directly attacked our opponents' box and put in some wicked crosses resulting in a couple of goals recently, including the one Khan scored at the back post. He's one of our most potent threats going forward.

A video of Efete slicing a shot doing the rounds on Twitter, but you never see the same relish in posting videos of his recent two assists with great crosses. Doesn't fit the narrative..

I respect that you have an opinion, I just don't respect that opinion..
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Arguably our best right back. Hurst signed him. You'd think he'd know a thing or two about the position.
He then gave him a new contract. Piayed him more often than not.
He obviously trains well. When he plays he puts a shift in.
If anything, to me any vitriol should be aimed at the manager for playing him. Or perhaps for being 1-4 down at halftime. At home.


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Obviously our left hand side is weak. But the amount of times there's somebody unmarked between Waterfall and Efete is criminal. I'm not sure who is at fault, I'm inclined to say it's Waterfall, because he never ever seems to be marking a man to me, but I know Hurst likes zonal marking which would make it Efete's man. Unless we play the hybrid zonal from set pieces and man mark from open play...

That being said, I don't understand the abuse of Efete. He had a couple of bad games, came out of that really strongly and he wasn't even in the top 5 for worst players against Salford.


Waterfall is an excellent man marker outside the box and a ball watcher when balls are put into our box from wide positions. Efete's not faultless, but LW can be a liability when it comes to marking players drifting off his shoulder with Efete already marking his own man. How many times do we concede when our centre halves aren't tight to their own men....
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Waterfall is an excellent man marker outside the box and a ball watcher when balls are put into our box from wide positions. Efete's not faultless, but LW can be a liability when it comes to marking players drifting off his shoulder with Efete already marking his own man. How many times do we concede when our centre halves aren't tight to their own men....


Yes, long forward balls he wins a huge percentage but defending in the box he's poor. I actually forgot about how poor he was in the relegation season when neither him nor Pollock ever seemed to mark a man.
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I think when defending Efete, a lot of people jump to the point of the very small number of people hammering him at the games. That is quite clearly counter productive and unfair on any player.

However, it’s then used as a shield to somehow deflect from his actual performances. He was very very poor for a spell this season, improved a bit then has reverted back to poor again. It’s not so much defensively, it’s the fact he looks clueless on what to do with the ball half the time, could be nerves, could be a struggle to step up but either way it’s tough to watch at times.

It’s alright feeling sorry for the bloke getting stick, or blaming it on nerves, but neither of those things are going to improve us. He’s by no means the only player to be underperforming, but a lot of them have been dropped at points, he’s not been able to given Croppers lack of fitness and I feel that leaves him open to more criticism.

I read on here that our new recruitment guy is trying to convince Hurst we need a new pair of full backs, might not be true but if it is, I completely agree with him.
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Not when I've been to watch them, stats can be manipulated to whichever way you want them to look. I just don't rate him whatsoever and whenever he receives the ball just fills me with dread, you know he's going backwards or sideways. Doesn't help that Cropper is injured and he knows he's basically undroppable, I just don't think he has what it takes to be a footballer in the Football League.


And yet the Harrogate winner and 2 of the four goals on Thursday came from our left…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Yes, long forward balls he wins a huge percentage but defending in the box he's poor. I actually forgot about how poor he was in the relegation season when neither him nor Pollock ever seemed to mark a man.


Been saying this for a while especially our relegation season. Even as recently as Harrogate away Efete, Waterfall and  Maher were all caught ball watching not picking up the man unmarked virtually stood on the line.

Great in the box as he was against Wrexham in the playoffs but against Solihull poor marking in the  home league game and the final to allow that lanky twit to score.
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Personal opinion is that he’s a Conference level footballer with League One athleticism. We’ve several others who are average League Two at best. No surprise because we kept a lot of a squad that finished 6th in the Conference.

I’m sure several won’t like it but they’re facts. The summer transfer window wasn’t great.
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I think our defenders need to start talking to each other, do that and things will get better. Shaun is the best talker in the squad but they won’t hear him if he’s not here..


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We have a lot of players who are lower L2 /national league level. I see no lack of effort just skill levels.
UTM
Yes I got that impression when I saw Grimsby v Man City under 21s in November of this year. Lot of effort from the Grimsby lads but sometimes you see innate class as in the case of Manchester City's Adedire Mebude who is highly rated  and looked a cut above most that night.


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Because we are #%@%!.

No doubt we will be hovering around the relegation zone come end of season.

I've been saying all season our lack of signing a proven striker will eventually be our down fall and I was right.


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Because we are #%@%!.

No doubt we will be hovering around the relegation zone come end of season.

I've been saying all season our lack of signing a proven striker will eventually be our down fall and I was right.


And given your insight into all things Town,did you predict promotion last year?


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And given your insight into all things Town,did you predict promotion last year?


Did you?
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over 5k people have backed them with their hard earned cash only to be served up 2 home wins all season let alone that first half performance.

How you can question the boos?

Most managers would be gone with that type of record, so a few boos at half time is getting off lightly.


Hope you get over the bitterness in 2023 Nick.


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Because we are #%@%!.

No doubt we will be hovering around the relegation zone come end of season.

I've been saying all season our lack of signing a proven striker will eventually be our down fall and I was right.


We’ve scored plenty of goals. We just can’t defend.

But you talk out your @rse and always have.


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I think I stopped booing when my attitude towards football matured a little bit .
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We’ve scored plenty of goals. We just can’t defend.

But you talk out your @rse and always have.


See you are still complimentary to anyone who doesn’t share your view.
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See you are still complimentary to anyone who doesn’t share your view.


Season of goodwill and all that 😕
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See you are still complimentary to anyone who doesn’t share your view.


Why would I be complimentary to someone posting cobblers?


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For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We'll take a cup of kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.
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Did you?


Yes, as if you didn't know. Happy New Year.



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I don’t get booing. Never will.

For me, football is a sport and I stay until the final whistle, win lose or draw.

In the event of a big defeat, I like to reflect on what went wrong, what could be improved upon etc. I certainly don’t Chuck me dummy out of the pram. It’s football, a sport, and things like this happen.

What does bother me is idiots that scream and shout obscenity’s at players etc from the stand. I had 2 geezers sat in front of me against Salford, who I’ve never seen before. One was quiet but the other was obviously a football expert that spouted so much rubbish. Highlight of my night was when he turned to me and said we play better with 2 up front than with 1 up front 🤦‍♂️

His level of overpowering obscenity shouting was unbelievable. He didn’t give a damn whether or not there was youngsters sat nearby (there was).

Fortunately he went for a beer early in the first half and left early in the second half. As it was taking me all of my effort to try and ignore him without making a scene and telling him to shut up. Certainly the ugly face of football.

I don’t boo. I have an opinion on what I see, but I just don’t get the booing thing


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