Sporting cancellations

What the hell has the queens death got to do with football ffs

Quoted from Mariner_501

What the hell has the queens death got to do with football ffs

The Queen is dead. Live Longe-King.

It's not a tragedy it's a moment for pay our respects and celebrate a long and successful life.

Postponing sport is ridiculous. A minute's silence would suffice.

We don't postpone games when real tragedies occur like Grenfell or terrorist attacks.

They won't be cancelling work for the next two weeks so why cancel people's enjoyment. It's an archaic mournfest.

A period of cap doffing, fawning deference is needed to make sure we know our place.

Can't have us plebs enjoying ourselves.

Its the St Leger on Sat, the worlds oldest classic Horse race, i think the Queen, a massive horse racing fan, would be horrified to think it was cancelled because of her passing, i just hope  the 'powers that be' can get a sense of perspective and realise that despite all of our admiration for her, she was 96 years old and very,very few reach that age.

It looks likely that the funeral will be a week on Saturday. It would make complete sense to postpone games tomorrow and that day or even that weekend so that there is a full programme one midweek. Everything else is excessive. The FA gave guidance for Man Utd and West Ham to play tonight so hopefully that’s a precedent set and we can play this weekend.

I'm finding it all a bit bizarre. For me cancel everything when her funeral is taking place (for example if it is Friday at lunch time cancel everything around that time 3hrs either side or something) nothing should be cancelled this weekend. Everything should go ahead as normal but put on a special performance or silence for her majesty

Queen is dead, no fun allowed for 2 weeks. Have to make sure the public know their place and that a rich old lady in a shiny hat is more important than everyone else. The BBC even said the cost of living crisis pales in comparison to the Queen dying so that pretty much shows where the priorities are. Your grandmother freezing to death because she can't afford to pay the gas bill is nothing compared to the rich grandma of people who did nothing to earn their wealth and power other than win the genetic lottery.

Show our respect with a minutes silence other than that & cancelling sport on day of funeral things should carry on , liked the queen but no need to go ott

We all know they’ll bottle it and just cancel the fixtures. We must all be miserable and sit and pretend to mourn.

As mentioned, genuine disasters take place an we crack on, this should be the same, and in truth, she’d probably want them to given she was a big sports fan.

I guess it’s another way to keep the commoner under control. You will mourn the loss of a shiny hatted old lady and you will remember your place.

Play the games, have a minute silence, even sing the dreadful national anthem if you want and crack on. Cancel sport yet literally everything else carries on as normal.

She was 96, lived a great life and we should celebrate that. It's not like she died very young. Minute silence, schools to teach children about her history etc and then we move on

Herein lies the problem, the London Bridge has fallen, the decision made about the length and effects of mourning of our longest serving monarch will be made without asking the family what their wishes are.
The way the queen has conducted herself throughout her realm has been for benefit of the people of this country, she's served us tirelessly, even 48 hours before her demise she was still doing her duties with a smile on her face.
So rather than the Premier League or EFL making a decision on upcoming fixtures, why not ask Charles, William et al what they'd like to happen, for all we know the old gal probably said the words as my dad..." Don't mourn my passing, celebrate my life, raise a glass and get p!ssed, I'll see you all again one day"...

The FA, EFL, premier league etc… won’t do anything that will see them criticised so I’d set up for a free Saturday afternoon this week at least.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

It's not a tragedy it's a moment for pay our respects and celebrate a long and successful life.

Postponing sport is ridiculous. A minute's silence would suffice.

We don't postpone games when real tragedies occur like Grenfell or terrorist attacks.

They won't be cancelling work for the next two weeks so why cancel people's enjoyment. It's an archaic mournfest.

You’re not nearly cynical enough…we don’t stop for those events badges as wartime spirit and blitz spirit when in truth it’s because its poor folk. Average joe.

Keep us serfs down, you will mourn whether you like it or not. Oh, but if you could continue to go work and ensure the economy continues that would be lovely.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The FA, EFL, premier league etc… won’t do anything that will see them criticised so I’d set up for a free Saturday afternoon this week at least.

And probably next Saturday too as I suspect it will be the day of the funeral.

For perspective, it’s the first time a monarch has died in most of our lifetimes. It’s more important to some than others, I get that, but show some respect, it’s a bit more important than Grimsby v Crewe, which will, after all, get played in due course.

Cancelling sporting events is pure madness. Carry on with our lives, remember and reflect

Quoted from MuddyWaters

And probably next Saturday too as I suspect it will be the day of the funeral.

For perspective, it’s the first time a monarch has died in most of our lifetimes. It’s more important to some than others, I get that, but show some respect, it’s a bit more important than Grimsby v Crewe, which will, after all, get played in due course.

Not to me it isnt.and not to a lot of others

Quoted from MuddyWaters

And probably next Saturday too as I suspect it will be the day of the funeral.

For perspective, it’s the first time a monarch has died in most of our lifetimes. It’s more important to some than others, I get that, but show some respect, it’s a bit more important than Grimsby v Crewe, which will, after all, get played in due course.

Is it more important? Probably not. By that token I’d say that we shouldn’t be going to work (which is essentially what footballers would be doing) or pubs/restaurants should be shut.

Yes, I agree it’s the first time in the vast majority of peoples lives that this has happened but it’s also 2022. Many aren’t fussed either way about the monarchy.

If they blew up a couple of building today instead of the queen dying would they cancel them? Certainly not.

Play the sport, even badge it as ‘mourning collectively’ or whatever. Sadly, with not a back bone between the leagues and officials I suspect a Saturday of nothing.

Police are going to be needed in their droves in London. PL and EFL would face a lot of criticism if they didn't call everything off. Non league might survive.

Just for a bit of History, football went ahead when the last monarch died.

Quoted from aldi_01

Is it more important? Probably not. By that token I’d say that we shouldn’t be going to work (which is essentially what footballers would be doing) or pubs/restaurants should be shut.

Yes, I agree it’s the first time in the vast majority of peoples lives that this has happened but it’s also 2022. Many aren’t fussed either way about the monarchy.

If they blew up a couple of building today instead of the queen dying would they cancel them? Certainly not.

Play the sport, even badge it as ‘mourning collectively’ or whatever. Sadly, with not a back bone between the leagues and officials I suspect a Saturday of nothing.

I get that. And I’m pretty sure a lot of sport will go ahead tomorrow because the logistics of cancelling all sport when a lot of travel has already been made is going to be very expensive.

The point is that it’s not up to us. Lots of stuff to be considered, I’m pretty sure The Queen wouldn’t want the St Leger cancelled on her account as an example.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Just for a bit of History, football went ahead when the last monarch died.

Sssshhh urine off with your facts will you. You know what it’s like now with these grand outpourings of pseudo emotions and social media hyperbole.

I’ve said time and again I’d abolish them but a s human is no wish her dead and if one thing sticks in peoples minds it should be that image of her, sat alone, a vulnerable old lady who’d lost her husband…and then remember what her flipping disgrace of a government were doing at that point. There should be equal measures of outrage and sorrow…there won’t be though.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Just for a bit of History, football went ahead when the last monarch died.

Aye but businesses/organisations didn’t spend their existence excrement scared of social media reactions back then.

Probably the likes of the Mail and Express would really do their best to whip up some outrage as well. I'd imagine they weren't as nuttily reactionary 70 years ago (the Mail's support for the fascists notwithstanding).

With it being late on a Thursday (her death), I’d say it would be nigh on impossible to cancel everything, although I notice that this evenings games have been postponed in the championship and league 2.

Quoted from GrimRob

Police are going to be needed in their droves in London.

For what? The place gets hundreds of thousands of visitors every Saturday & Sunday, how is this weekend any different other than they’ll all be stood outside an empty mansion at the end of The Mall?

It’s like waking up in Pyongyang this morning, absolutely batshít.

Quoted from ska face

For what? The place gets hundreds of thousands of visitors every Saturday & Sunday, how is this weekend any different other than they’ll all be stood outside an empty mansion at the end of The Mall?

It’s like waking up in Pyongyang this morning, absolutely batshít.

It's an obvious target for terrorists as well as thieves, pickpockets etc. There will be millions of additional visitors, not all wanted.

The police might actually have some real work to do rather than pretend football fans are criminals

Quoted from GrimRob

It's an obvious target for terrorists as well as thieves, pickpockets etc. There will be millions of additional visitors, not all wanted.

The police might actually have some real work to do rather than pretend football fans are criminals

I'm pretty sure they're already in London and are there every day. Makes no difference if the Queen has died.

I remember us playing a league cup match against Sheffield United a few hours after 9/11, that wasn't serious enough to cancel sport but an elderly queen dying is? I get that there is a grieving family and many people admired and appreciated her but let's not slip into North Korea style contrived mourning. Life goes on and so should sports

Quoted from GrimRob

It's an obvious target for terrorists as well as thieves, pickpockets etc. There will be millions of additional visitors, not all wanted.

The police might actually have some real work to do rather than pretend football fans are criminals

There’ll be an influx but nothing out of the ordinary, multiple events take place at the same time in London and things aren’t cancelled elsewhere.

Forced mourning is ridiculous.

Quoted from aldi_01

There’ll be an influx but nothing out of the ordinary, multiple events take place at the same time in London and things aren’t cancelled elsewhere.

Forced mourning is ridiculous.

For fooks sake get a grip, no one is asking you to mourn.

Quoted from lukeo

She was 96, lived a great life and we should celebrate that. It's not like she died very young. Minute silence, schools to teach children about her history etc and then we move on

They all live to be near 100. It's easy to do when you have the best of everything, they have their own private supermarkets that the public can't use that has the best food money can buy, they get the best medical care and don't have to worry about getting sick or having to wait years for needed surgery or being fobbed off by the NHS leaving conditions to get worse. The best part is they don't have to pay a penny for any of it as public taxes foot the bill along with tourism. You can argue the royals are diplomats that promote our interests as a country but most countries hate us because of the monarchy and their compliance with every crappy thing we did because it benefitted them, they get the best of everything and endless free trips abroad to stay at the best hotels and homes, VIP treatment and the best of everything anywhere they go just because.

So instead of the Queen's speech we'll get the King's speech at Christmas this year. Expect it to be more of the same patronising about how we need to come together as a nation and how we need to do more for those in need while the King sits next to his solid gold piano with ivory keys on his seat that's worth more than most people's entire houses.

They are if things that people enjoy are cancelled. It’s going to be like lockdown again when workplaces are open but fun things aren’t.

I don't think certain other countries hate the UK because of the monarchy. It's because of the many shitty things our forefathers did in the name of Empire. It wasn't the Royals of the time telling our respective Governments who to invade and occupy - they did that themselves.

Quoted from arryarryarry

For fooks sake get a grip, no one is asking you to mourn.

Except that's exactly what they'd be doing if sports and other things are cancelled.

Regardless of what decision is reached, you would have thought a steadfast plan would have already in place given the inevitable nature of this event. No announcement thus far suggests there isn’t a clear and straightforward consensus.

The Northern Irish FA has postponed this weekend’s fixtures; I can only see ours doing the same.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Just for a bit of History, football went ahead when the last monarch died.

Yeah, but when Edward VII died there was no league football for nearly 4 months.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Yeah, but when Edward VII died there was no league football for nearly 4 months.

(Insert Scunthorpe quote here)

Quoted from Poojah

Regardless of what decision is reached, you would have thought a steadfast plan would have already in place given the inevitable nature of this event. No announcement thus far suggests there isn’t a clear and straightforward consensus.

The Northern Irish FA has postponed this weekend’s fixtures; I can only see ours doing the same.

Glanced at something earlier that said the government will leave it to the leagues or clubs themselves to decide. Unsurprised to see the govt shift responsibilty onto others if true and will probably mean it is called off because they won’t want the social media backlash.

Guy from the DCMS on Talksport right now suggesting that the “strong advice” from the government is that this weekend’s fixtures and any on the day of the funeral are postponed, with “latitude given” regarding those in midweek.

Sporting bodies do not have to abide by that advice, but the government’s recommendation is for “a period of intense mourning”.

Quoted from Poojah

Guy from the DCMS on Talksport right now suggesting that the “strong advice” from the government is that this weekend’s fixtures and any on the day of the funeral are postponed, with “latitude given” regarding those in midweek.

Sporting bodies do not have to abide by that advice, but the government’s recommendation is for “a period of intense mourning”.

DCMS?

Are they Trevor Sinclair’s initials?

Is ‘Trevor’ just a nickname?

Quoted from Poojah

Guy from the DCMS on Talksport right now suggesting that the “strong advice” from the government is that this weekend’s fixtures and any on the day of the funeral are postponed, with “latitude given” regarding those in midweek.

Sporting bodies do not have to abide by that advice, but the government’s recommendation is for “a period of intense mourning”.

If that’s the government’s advice then they’re not reading the room. Ben Stokes has just tweeted that the Queen was a massive sports fan and it would be an honour to play in her memory.

Department of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport.

It's a pity that Nadine Dorries is no longer the minister there. You can only imagine some of the half-drunk whacky nonsense she would have come up with. Sorry, soon to be 'Lady Dorries'.

FFS.

Theatres will be allowed to stay open culture fans.

Suspending the day of the funeral makes a bit more sense, todays not any kind of official day and tickets have already been purchased. Doesnt seem in the queens 'stiff upper lip' image to just scrap everything for 2 weeks

Intense mourning…what even is that. By this afternoon people will just be cracking on and doing what they need to do.

flipping lunacy…

Games could go ahead government left it upto premier lge & efl no reason why sport cant continue other than today & guneral day

funeral

I think the EFL should sit tight for a bit and wait and see what happens with tomorrow's St Leger at Doncaster. The Queen was a huge horse racing fan and I doubt she would be happy if it was cancelled as a result of her death. If the St Leger goes ahead then there's no reason for the EFL to postpone a whole round of fixtures.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think the EFL should sit tight for a bit and wait and see what happens with tomorrow's St Leger at Doncaster. The Queen was a huge horse racing fan and I doubt she would be happy if it was cancelled as a result of her death. If the St Leger goes ahead then there's no reason for the EFL to postpone a whole round of fixtures.

intercourse off with your sensible suggestions. We all know the football league will excrement a brick because they’re worried about the flag shaggers clogging their social media channels…

Free weekend sadly…

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think the EFL should sit tight for a bit and wait and see what happens with tomorrow's St Leger at Doncaster. The Queen was a huge horse racing fan and I doubt she would be happy if it was cancelled as a result of her death. If the St Leger goes ahead then there's no reason for the EFL to postpone a whole round of fixtures.

They’re clearly waiting for something. Madness that there wasn’t an official protocol for this.

Quoted from LH

They are if things that people enjoy are cancelled. It’s going to be like lockdown again when workplaces are open but fun things aren’t.

You'll be OK. They haven't banned moaning.

Quoted from ginnywings

Theatres will be allowed to stay open culture fans.

But only if they are showing sad shows. No comedies allowed!

cowardly twits, get the games on ffs

Quoted from Maringer

But only if they are showing sad shows. No comedies allowed!

Of course.

Quoted from Maringer

But only if they are showing sad shows. No comedies allowed!

Scunthorpe should be allowed to play this weekend then.

You will be miserable. You will mourn. Don’t you dare smile or be happy for at least 12 days…

It will be an absolute ridiculous decision if all games are called off, I know some people want to sit on their sofa and cry buckets whilst watching the TV all weekend, but others don't, let us all pay our own respects if we wish, if people want to go to a sporting event like I do, then that should be fine, also if somebody wants to sit on their sofa with the tissues out again that's fine, don't force us all to mourn.

Quoted from bawarmy

You'll be OK. They haven't banned moaning.

Yet.

The EFL will ultimately follow whatever move the Premier League makes, and I wonder if that’s the hold-up. In a season already badly disrupted by a ludicrous November / December World Cup, blanket postponements (potentially beyond this weekend) are the last thing they will want.

I expect the clubs themselves will want to play; it’s a case of weighing that up against the potential backlash.

Quoted from Kris2

Queen is dead, no fun allowed for 2 weeks. Have to make sure the public know their place and that a rich old lady in a shiny hat is more important than everyone else. The BBC even said the cost of living crisis pales in comparison to the Queen dying so that pretty much shows where the priorities are. Your grandmother freezing to death because she can't afford to pay the gas bill is nothing compared to the rich grandma of people who did nothing to earn their wealth and power other than win the genetic lottery.

I am a total fan of the Queen and the Royals that actually get off their arses and do something rather than the string of leeching hangers on but you've hit the nail on the head with that.

Quoted from Davec

It will be an absolute ridiculous decision if all games are called off, I know some people want to sit on their sofa and cry buckets whilst watching the TV all weekend, but others don't, let us all pay our own respects if we wish, if people want to go to a sporting event like I do, then that should be fine, also if somebody wants to sit on their sofa with the tissues out again that's fine, don't force us all to mourn.

cant say that Aaron!

i said the same, and was called a male masturbator and a male private on here last night

Quoted from Poojah

The EFL will ultimately follow whatever move the Premier League makes, and I wonder if that’s the hold-up. In a season already badly disrupted by a ludicrous November / December World Cup, blanket postponements (potentially beyond this weekend) are the last thing they will want.

I expect the clubs themselves will want to play; it’s a case of weighing that up against the potential backlash.

Ironic isn’t it, someone’s already said it but the ones shouting loudest about some forced mourning are the same who shout for freedom of speech…

I'm a royalist, 100%. I cannot see any reason for tomorrows and mid-week games to be cancelled. If the funeral is next Saturday you don't have to go to the game but 5 mins silence would be appropriate, any noisey people kick em out.

Rugby league expected to continue tomorrow. Why can't football follow suit

Until it’s off it’s on. Winge about something that’s happened until then keep your politics and societal views to yourselves.

This weekend's Premier League games have all been postponed including fixtures on Sunday & Monday.

Premier league have excrement a brick so expect football league to follow suit…bizarre decision.

EFL excrement it as well. pathetic

I don’t know if this means the funeral won’t take place next weekend now cause surely the PL wouldn’t moan about congestion and then bin two fixtures off in a week at that short notice.

Quoted from LH

I don’t know if this means the funeral won’t take place next weekend now cause surely the PL wouldn’t moan about congestion and then bin two fixtures off in a week at that short notice.

Of course they would…

Efl just called weekend games off

EFL Statement:

"Further to discussions on Friday morning it has been determined that all EFL fixtures from 9-10 September will be postponed as a mark of respect by the National Sport to the passing of HRH Queen Elizabeth II.

This is aligned with the approach that the Premier League and the FA will take with their competitions this weekend."

Spineless fornicators.

This just makes me even more determined to get rid of the royal family and turn this country into a republic. Absolute joke. If they didn't cancel the football when the last two monarchs passed away, why should it happen now? Zero precedent for this and all it does is mess the public around. It's entirely possible to show respect and mourn the Queen while letting football go on as scheduled.

Apparently the earliest possible date for the funeral is Monday 19th, although with her death being in Scotland, it could take place a day or two later:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news.....4a15829252f84d1bd7fe

I’d imagine they’ve done this to ‘protect their image’ and probably can’t be arsed to deal with the flag wavers and bulldog tattoo types ploughing in to their social media accounts claimin they’re unpatriotic…

Just play the games, have a minutes silence, the end…

Quoted from Chrisblor

This just makes me even more determined to get rid of the royal family and turn this country into a republic. Absolute joke. If they didn't cancel the football when the last two monarchs passed away, why should it happen now? Zero precedent for this and all it does is mess the public around. It's entirely possible to show respect and mourn the Queen while letting football go on as scheduled.

I disagree about the republic bit as it's not the Royal Families fault that games are off but do agree they should be played especially in a time when for some this is the only highlight they may have to look forward to at the moment.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’d imagine they’ve done this to ‘protect their image’ and probably can’t be arsed to deal with the flag wavers and bulldog tattoo types ploughing in to their social media accounts claimin they’re unpatriotic…

Just play the games, have a minutes silence, the end…

It’s a catch-22 for those types as they’d never miss a chance to sing the national anthem in public.

Quoted from LH

It’s a catch-22 for those types as they’d never miss a chance to sing the national anthem in public.

Agreed…such a weird decision. With more and more of the country being republicans you’d imagine they’d just play, especially as the royal family haven’t requested it…they played when her old man died and you’d imagine almost everyone was a monarchist back then…

Have Scunthorpe asked for the season to be cancelled yet?

Well this is a bit disappointing.

I'm neither pro or anti Royalist, they are who they are and generally speaking have no direct impact on my day to day activities.

I get that some people - possibly those slightly longer in the tooth - may have more deeper rooted connections and sadness with the Queens passing and for me that should be fully respected.

However, in my opinion, we live in a society that is too fast paced to stop and mourn/reflect/care about situations that don't directly affect us. That isn't to say people aren't or don't recognise the sadness of the moment, but I'd suggest the vast majority recognise that life will go on.

Life today is vastly different to 70 years ago, I know I'm stating the obvious again. We're largely a 24/7 society, Amazon, supermarkets, social media, we're constantly on the go doing something and unlike 70 years ago I don't think as a generation we have the same capability or desire to simply stop what we're doing to act mournful, especially if we don't feel it.

There's recognition that those at the highest levels of control will want to lead the country in a means of being mournful and most certainly should be showing the Queen the huge respect she deserves for her service by providing the means for those who are in genuine mourning to do that as best possible in as many ways as possible.

But as many here have argued, that shouldn't be an enforced rule for all. Life goes on and the world keeps turning. I would argue that football fans across the country would not be making a pilgrimage to London to pay respects, but would see fit and right to observe a period of silence in her memory and honour.

It's not a decision I agree with personally, even if it's somewhat understandable that this was always going to be likely. Hopefully Tuesday will not be affected and the footballing community can demonstrate it's respect in games across the country.

In a bizarre twist, all horse racing cancelled tomorrow but the St Leger rescheduled for just 24 hours later.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

Well this is a bit disappointing.

I'm neither pro or anti Royalist, they are who they are and generally speaking have no direct impact on my day to day activities.

I get that some people - possibly those slightly longer in the tooth - may have more deeper rooted connections and sadness with the Queens passing and for me that should be fully respected.

However, in my opinion, we live in a society that is too fast paced to stop and mourn/reflect/care about situations that don't directly affect us. That isn't to say people aren't or don't recognise the sadness of the moment, but I'd suggest the vast majority recognise that life will go on.

Life today is vastly different to 70 years ago, I know I'm stating the obvious again. We're largely a 24/7 society, Amazon, supermarkets, social media, we're constantly on the go doing something and unlike 70 years ago I don't think as a generation we have the same capability or desire to simply stop what we're doing to act mournful, especially if we don't feel it.

There's recognition that those at the highest levels of control will want to lead the country in a means of being mournful and most certainly should be showing the Queen the huge respect she deserves for her service by providing the means for those who are in genuine mourning to do that as best possible in as many ways as possible.

But as many here have argued, that shouldn't be an enforced rule for all. Life goes on and the world keeps turning. I would argue that football fans across the country would not be making a pilgrimage to London to pay respects, but would see fit and right to observe a period of silence in her memory and honour.

It's not a decision I agree with personally, even if it's somewhat understandable that this was always going to be likely. Hopefully Tuesday will not be affected and the footballing community can demonstrate it's respect in games across the country.

Excellent post. I'm not surprised by the decision but disappointed that it doesn't reflect modern society.

Classic decision of trying not to offend those who trade on being offended.
You want to mourn and show your respect in your own way, fine.  It you still because you do, don’t expect me to. It is no better than me driving round blaring out certain Smiths and Sex Pistols songs.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Classic decision of trying not to offend those who trade on being offended.
You want to mourn and show your respect in your own way, fine.  But still because you do, don’t expect me to. It is no better than me driving round blaring out certain Smiths and Sex Pistols songs.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

You want to mourn and show your respect in your own way, fine.

I wanted to show my respect with a minute or two’s silent reflection at tomorrow’s match. Now I can’t.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’m telling ya, this is intercourse all to do with respect or out of some sort of allegiance to the queen and everything to do with their image and the fact they don’t want to deal with the flag wavers and those who think we should all sing our hearts out for some old lady battering their social media pages…

It's mawkish nonsense. Queen loved her sport. Cancelling the games neither shows nor creates more respect.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m telling ya, this is intercourse all to do with respect or out of some sort of allegiance to the queen and everything to do with their image and the fact they don’t want to deal with the flag wavers and those who think we should all sing our hearts out for some old lady battering their social media pages…

Completely right.

I personally don’t have a problem with people mourning on an individual basis, it’s a natural human reaction so do what you will.  What I do have a problem with is the ‘institution’ telling me I have to mourn.  The fact is that She didn’t work harder than my mother or your mother, nobody forced her to live the life She did, we’re simply told to mourn by a bunch of hangers on who live their lives within a comfort blanket of privilege that an unelected institution provides.

I bear the late queen no malice, she did me no harm, but her passing has no greater or lesser significance than the passing of any other non-relative.

And yes, if there was a referendum tomorrow on abolishing the monarchy, I would be staunchly in favour.

Quoted from Chrisblor

This just makes me even more determined to get rid of the royal family and turn this country into a republic. Absolute joke. If they didn't cancel the football when the last two monarchs passed away, why should it happen now? Zero precedent for this and all it does is mess the public around. It's entirely possible to show respect and mourn the Queen while letting football go on as scheduled.

Apart from your bit about the royal family, I agree with what you say.

It is not the royal family's fault, nor the politicians (for a change) but the EFL. We know from last season how spineless the NL officials were and the EFL lot are just the same. It's the fans that suffer all the time.

Quoted from LH

It’s a catch-22 for those types as they’d never miss a chance to sing the national anthem in public.

'Those types'???

Quoted from TAGG

'Those types'???

Yes. Those types Aldi described.