Rearing it's ugly head again......

I see there's been a couple of incidents this weekend again with fans bringing the game into disrepute yet again with racism chants from the stands and even Harry Pell being assaulted when getting ready to take a penalty. As much as I can dislike Pell or other opposition players I just don't understand these fans that cross the moral line time after time. No player should have to put up with being abused for any reason or even physically attacked!

We as a club have a problem with the behaviour of a minority of fans taking things way too far and darkening our clubs supports great reputation. To those fans I say please don't let us be the first club to be made an example of because the FA will eventually have to start handing out fines or points deductions and we really don't want to be that club!

Harry Pell is a male masturbator and it's been coming for years. I didn't see what happened so can't really comment.

No excuse for racism or assault of course. But seriously, Harry Pell asks for it week in week out.

Quoted from jaygy

I see there's been a couple of incidents this weekend again with fans bringing the game into disrepute yet again with racism chants from the stands and even Harry Pell being assaulted when getting ready to take a penalty. As much as I can dislike Pell or other opposition players I just don't understand these fans that cross the moral line time after time. No player should have to put up with being abused for any reason or even physically attacked!

We as a club have a problem with the behaviour of a minority of fans taking things way too far and darkening our clubs supports great reputation. To those fans I say please don't let us be the first club to be made an example of because the FA will eventually have to start handing out fines or points deductions and we really don't want to be that club!

Usually if there’s any trouble at Town games it involves our supporters fighting and arguing with each other 😂

Every club has its “minority” and I’d doubt when you look at it ours is any bigger than similar clubs of the same fan base. Like many on here I’ve lost count of how many games I’ve been to but I can’t remember a time when I’ve seen regular Town supporters looking for trouble in the manner say Port Vale did a few seasons back when they came to BP.

Quoted from jaygy

I see there's been a couple of incidents this weekend again with fans bringing the game into disrepute yet again with racism chants from the stands and even Harry Pell being assaulted when getting ready to take a penalty. As much as I can dislike Pell or other opposition players I just don't understand these fans that cross the moral line time after time. No player should have to put up with being abused for any reason or even physically attacked!

We as a club have a problem with the behaviour of a minority of fans taking things way too far and darkening our clubs supports great reputation. To those fans I say please don't let us be the first club to be made an example of because the FA will eventually have to start handing out fines or points deductions and we really don't want to be that club!

Supporters are a normal cross section of society  - the good the bad and the ugly however much some people would like a fan base that is a mirror of their own attitudes.

Do you have any specific examples of us misbehaving?  Rotherham will have to account for the Harry Pell incident and no doubt the FA will look at that.

These things always get over egged.

I’m all for banning racists and on the whole, clubs do tackle it and issue bans, police fines etc.

Much like someone running in the pitch, the reason it makes the news is because it happens so rarely…

Society is full of different people, it’s full of sub groups and sub cultures. Statistically, try as organisations might, football, like every sport, attracts varying people. Sadly, some of those people cause bother, or use football as the excuse.

Society is currently a melting pot though and much like society, football often reflects the same feeling.

Football has a blame culture, I overheard a steward yesterday blaming everyone except his own rudeness as to why people were annoyed and things had been shut etc. it doesn’t excuse it but it goes a long way. Again, whilst most of the coppers I encountered (it was one each after all) were friendly, I did see a lad on the station literally being man handled towards a mass of people and he was literally just saying ‘but I want to go down there’…

Sadly, football intelligence is often flimsy and opinion which makes football fans a target, an easy target and often sitting ducks.

We’ve all seen people removed from football for being drunk, or even refused entry, we’ve seen those people not really causing anyone any bother but it still happens…meanwhile, at other sports they’d get nothing more than a talking to.

Whilst football has been its own enemy, whilst it remains the only sport that anyone really dedicated serious attention to, on a global level, it puts itself in the firing line, the connotations of football fans by the unsuspecting and uninformed eye are negative or not always pleasant…

I saw a group of Middle Aged blokes buying jugs of ale yesterday, being loud, being a bit Leary, watching the rugby…

Younger group of lads were doing the same thing, weren’t making much noise, kept themselves to themselves, were getting stares and looks of judgement…why? Because one had a GTFC shirt on…

Quoted from aldi_01

These things always get over egged.

I’m all for banning racists and on the whole, clubs do tackle it and issue bans, police fines etc.

Much like someone running in the pitch, the reason it makes the news is because it happens so rarely…

Society is full of different people, it’s full of sub groups and sub cultures. Statistically, try as organisations might, football, like every sport, attracts varying people. Sadly, some of those people cause bother, or use football as the excuse.

Society is currently a melting pot though and much like society, football often reflects the same feeling.

Football has a blame culture, I overheard a steward yesterday blaming everyone except his own rudeness as to why people were annoyed and things had been shut etc. it doesn’t excuse it but it goes a long way. Again, whilst most of the coppers I encountered (it was one each after all) were friendly, I did see a lad on the station literally being man handled towards a mass of people and he was literally just saying ‘but I want to go down there’…

Sadly, football intelligence is often flimsy and opinion which makes football fans a target, an easy target and often sitting ducks.

We’ve all seen people removed from football for being drunk, or even refused entry, we’ve seen those people not really causing anyone any bother but it still happens…meanwhile, at other sports they’d get nothing more than a talking to.

Whilst football has been its own enemy, whilst it remains the only sport that anyone really dedicated serious attention to, on a global level, it puts itself in the firing line, the connotations of football fans by the unsuspecting and uninformed eye are negative or not always pleasant…

I saw a group of Middle Aged blokes buying jugs of ale yesterday, being loud, being a bit Leary, watching the rugby…

Younger group of lads were doing the same thing, weren’t making much noise, kept themselves to themselves, were getting stares and looks of judgement…why? Because one had a GTFC shirt on…

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. Yes society is full of scumbags, but that doesn’t mean that the football community should accept that X% of fans are going to be scumbags and not try and remove them from the game.

What I witnessed yesterday was a large amount of mainly younger fans acting in various examples of poor behaviour. Many clearly drunk to the point that a decent pub or club would refuse entry or to serve them anymore drinks.

A young numpty let off a smoke bomb by the kiosk in the concourse at around 14:35 and then throwing the smoke bomb at a steward and running off. Thankfully a Town fan pointed him out to another couple of stewards and he was apprehended in the stand with an unused smoke bomb in his possession and was taken away. Enjoy your 3 year football ban mate.

People choosing to stand in the gangways for the entire match rather than sit/stand in their designated seat. One numpty attempted to smoke a cigarette stood on the gangway next to my aisle seat and I politely asked him to go elsewhere if he wanted to smoke. He wasn’t happy but he did.

The same numpty managed to force his way on to the row behind me during the 2nd half and I heard him call Arjan Raikhy a “f***ing useless P***” when he gave the ball away when we were still trailing. When I turned around and looked at him he decided to start abusing me instead and called me all sorts.

After a few minutes of this someone with him pointed out I had my young son with me and he calmed down a bit and I heard him tell his mate how he himself was a good dad because “I bought her some nappies the other week to help her out”. Hmmm.

I am not trying to be a killjoy but the very least that can be expected is to have awareness for the other people around you and the distress it is causing. I witnessed 2 children visible upset and crying at the antics of these selfish morons.

These idiots might think football is a great opportunity to get excessively drunk and act in this way, but if it carries on we’ll end up with reduced allocations, lunchtime kick-offs, no alcohol on sale & more security type stewards on the turnstile turning away anyone who is clearly already drunk.

There’s a fine line and a sizeable minority crossed it yesterday.

Leaving aside the 'societal' debate, there were numerous issues yesterday which could have been mitigated by better planning, communication and a willingness to involve all stakeholders.

The fact is, the Jimmy Sirrel Stand  is unable to service all the fans it has seats for. The cramped concourse, refreshments facilities and toilets are unsuitable for families and more vulnerable fans. If you have visited previously, you can factor that in when buying a ticket. If I was a first time visitor with children I would have asked for a transfer to the barely populated family stand.

Nothing excuses the poor behaviour of some fans but neither the stadium manager nor the relevant Police commander can be happy with their current Match Plan. Every aspect should be examined in the same depth that the County manager looks at his selections and tactics. The presumption in The National League, that away fans deserve only the worst facilities and safety standards at each club should be challenged. I would like to think we do our best to make away fans safe and comfortable?

On top of the negative experiences already highlighted during the game, there are the bonkers ticketing arrangements. Why, for example, did a Town fan, living in Nottingham, have to pay £6 postage when the extra batch were sent? He could have strolled down to the ground and bought it direct with proof of residence.

Was it possible for us to buy tickets in a section of the Family Stand? or could part of The Jimmy Sirrel Stand be allocated as such?

I accept that 2500 is a limit for that stand for safety reasons but why not allow all seats to be used and allow for us to choose our own seats? Why should parents be forced to sit with their kids close to abusive morons? Allocated seating actually caused difficulties yesterday.

I chose to leave via County Rd. towards the station but, despite a Police presence, County fans had been allowed to access that route at the same time. One or two of them had walked towards our fans and engaged in the usual hard stares and 'banter'. Having swerved that potential trouble spot I passed a group of Plod near a car with a Police dog in it. I did wonder what it would take for them to put it to work. It was another potential flashpoint easily avoided by tweaking the exit route for home fans.

For County, these issues only crop up a few times a year in our league so why bother? Perhaps an open and honest exchange between our respective SLO's might be a productive starting point. As soon as we all become defensive of our own positions, very little positive change takes place.

Meanwhile, ww3 is about to start in Ukraine, and here we are fretting about someone eating birthday cake and having a few drinks at work, and Harry Pell being "assaulted" I bet Putin's quaking in his boots.

Quoted from Phil the cod

Meanwhile, ww3 is about to start in Ukraine, and here we are fretting about someone eating birthday cake and having a few drinks at work, and Harry Pell being "assaulted" I bet Putin's quaking in his boots.

Unlikely. Even if Russia do attack, everybody will stand by and watch, threaten some sanctions that'll ultimately push up inflation further and Putin will get what he wants like he did with Crimea.

As if to prove the point being discussed that Leicester City ‘fan’ is going to be in big bother. Imagine being a fully grown adult and not being able to control yourself because the opposition score a goal against your team. Absolute clown!

Quoted from pen penfras

Unlikely. Even if Russia do attack, everybody will stand by and watch, threaten some sanctions that'll ultimately push up inflation further and Putin will get what he wants like he did with Crimea.

Can't see him being worried about sanctions when we've allowed ourselves to be reliant on Russia for our gas.
He's played our idiotic government for fools for years.
Aided and abetted by the liberal classes that run our country.
Still, we've got rainbow flags on police cars,so I guess all's good.

Quoted from Phil the cod

Meanwhile, ww3 is about to start in Ukraine, and here we are fretting about someone eating birthday cake and having a few drinks at work, and Harry Pell being "assaulted" I bet Putin's quaking in his boots.

Lol no. Even if some sort of conflict started, which it won't it, wouldn't come close to the complex politics of the two world wars. With things like nuclear deterrents and how world politics is set up, it makes it basically impossible for a world war to start.

This is a football forum though and football topics are discussed. I think situations go too far when fans are running on the pitch touching players or damaging football grounds, it's not just our fans but we have a group who insist on doing something every week. Also embarrassed by a section of younger fans who are hooligan wannabes who go to away days to terrorise the locals, cause trouble at matches and take pictures of themselves doing Nazi salutes. The same kids would probably chant "two world wars" at the Germans even though they apparently support the ideals we defeated.  

Quoted from Kris2

Lol no. Even if some sort of conflict started, which it won't it, wouldn't come close to the complex politics of the two world wars. With things like nuclear deterrents and how world politics is set up, it makes it basically impossible for a world war to start.

This is a football forum though and football topics are discussed. I think situations go too far when fans are running on the pitch touching players or damaging football grounds, it's not just our fans but we have a group who insist on doing something every week. Also embarrassed by a section of younger fans who are hooligan wannabes who go to away days to terrorise the locals, cause trouble at matches and take pictures of themselves doing Nazi salutes. The same kids would probably chant "two world wars" at the Germans even though they apparently support the ideals we defeated.  

Yeah, I've seen this , morons.

But it was Harry Pell…

Agro at the match>Harry Pell>Russia invading Ukraine.

I have just seen the Harry Pell incident and obviously condemn in the strongest blah, blah, blah. But it is important to recognise that it is flipping hilarious.

isn't the p, pronounced b?

Some absolute pleb had a pop at the Forest players in their game against Leicester. Shame the stewards had to intervene.

Seriously, what's wrong with people. Say 'hi' to Mason for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQTYkabkuc

Every time someone jumps the fence to punch a footballer the rest of the country’s sane football fans have to wait another five years before we can legally sit with a pint watching a match. It must be roughly five years since I said the same thing when someone punched Jack Grealish at St Andrews.

so town play well,get a great win away at a good team,so nothing too female dog and whine about!!!!!!! oh wait lets attack the fanbase again and again and again


red cross away,pathetic

Quoted from newarkmariner

so town play well,get a great win away at a good team,so nothing too female dog and whine about!!!!!!! oh wait lets attack the fanbase again and again and again


red cross away,pathetic

We do have a tendency as a supporters group to do this. It’s like we have to find something to moan about.

Perhaps could realise that the reason there’s a spotlight is because happens so infrequently that it’s a shock when it does happen?

People point to the drinking element, people will point at a bloke running out the stand to hit players…they’ll use that as an example as to why people shouldn’t be able to drink in the stand yet at stadiums all over the world where people do drink, they don’t have that issue…confusing isn’t it. You’d also be pretty fair in your assumption to imagine that someone that way inclined has done it before, not necessarily at football but the local boozer etc…not really footballs fault.

In truth, you’ll always get folk who view the way some town fans behaved on Saturdays as the worst thing in the world, you’ll get others who don’t bat an eyelid.

Can anyone confirm if the smoke bomb was smuggled in as a tampon?

i boarded the train at Newark and was chatting to notts fans on the platform who showed me 3 smoke bombs ,i joked that if that was town fans our forum would have a meltdown and a huge thread about how the easily offended have had there day ruined.they laughed and yet here we are.

Quoted from newarkmariner

so town play well,get a great win away at a good team,so nothing too female dog and whine about!!!!!!! oh wait lets attack the fanbase again and again and again


red cross away,pathetic

Is newarkmariner your username because you live in Newark or just a handy anagram?

Football is for everyone. A sizeable minority on Saturday showed a complete disregard for their fellow supporters on Saturday and caused noticeable distress to some younger fans and ruined their enjoyment.

No ones asking for anything unreasonable. Sit/stand in the seat you were allocated. Don’t bring smoke bombs/flairs to the game. Don’t drink so much that you are excessively drunk. Have a bit of awareness for the people around you- especially the young and old. Show the same level of respect to Notts County staff as we would expect the staff in our away end to be shown by fans visiting Blundell Park:

I’m old enough to remember how away fans used to be treated. The fact is if football continues on its current course those restrictive measures will come back for the clubs who fans cause the biggest issues.

If we play Notts next season everyone is going to moan when it’s a 1PM kick-off, when EMR make all their trains alcohol free, when the police are waiting for those fans at Nottingham station and don’t let them anywhere near a pub, when Notts County aren’t serving alcohol in the away end and when our allocation is restricted to 1,600 (80% of the seats) because some fans can’t just go to their allocated seat.

Football isn’t just about the result. It’s about it being an enjoyable overall experience. When it stops being that you end up with attendances like English football experienced in the 1980s.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

If we play Notts next season everyone is going to moan when it’s a 1PM kick-off, when EMR make all their trains alcohol free, when the police are waiting for those fans at Nottingham station and don’t let them anywhere near a pub, when Notts County aren’t serving alcohol in the away end and when our allocation is restricted to 1,600 (80% of the seats) because some fans can’t just go to their allocated seat.

Yes, and therein lies the issue.

Why was there a whole chunk of seats not used but then a funny shaped segregation area….for a stand that only had us in it?

Many were just sold a ticket, no opportunity to choose a seat etc. Then, when you arrive you’ve got some stewards being sensible and just asking folk to stand near a seat and then others insisting people find their actual seat.

My biggest issue on Saturday was the lad who had clearly taken his girlfriend to her first game and 2 shandy’s in she just kept falling over…nearly broke my foot twice.

Does anyone know why Notts County moved away fans to the side? I’m assuming it’s space and so they can have a sizeable crowd behind the goal?

And still, all this discussion but the most embarrassing moment as a town fan this season was Dagenham away…

Quoted from ska face

Yes, and therein lies the issue.

The club bend over backwards to help fans sit together. If you contact the ticket office the club will link online STs so groups can book together even if they didn’t buy their STs on the same email address..

I can buy away tickets for my dad. He can buy away tickets for me. We can both buy away tickets for my son.

The club also allow fans to turn up with screenshots of their friends STs if they want to sit together but don’t have the means for one of them to pay for X amount of tickets online.

And aldi_01 is talking out of his bottom and trying to make out allocated seating is a new thing. It isn’t. It’s very simple, if your ticket has a seat on it you should expect to have to sit in that seat. If you sit elsewhere you can expect to be asked to move.

We all know when games have sold out and allocated seats have to be strictly adhered to.

Not sure what part of that would justify making it a 1pm KO, banning alcohol on public transport and restricting people’s civil liberties?

We have this same boring conversation almost every week.

Quoted from newarkmariner

so town play well,get a great win away at a good team,so nothing too female dog and whine about!!!!!!! oh wait lets attack the fanbase again and again and again


red cross away,pathetic

You are a big strong lad Newark and easily capable of looking after yourself. If you were part of a family group or fairly elderly or with a health condition then you would expect ground regulations, safety standards and fan behaviour to conform. The fact that ticketing arrangements, stewarding, Policing, and the conduct of a minority fell short, meant that it was a matter of pure chance whether it was a positive or negative experience. The vast majority of Towns fans, including myself, had a great day but with a little more consideration all round it could have been all fans.

I read an article a couple of weeks ago with a quote from the chief police officer saying football related incidents were on the rise and they had 800 arrests at games in England  last year .
I then went onto google the total number of fans attending football games during the season in England .
It was over 30 million 😳
Now I’d say that is a massive success to have 30 million people cause so little trouble in high intensity settings with alcohol ect thrown  in to the equation too .
That police officer should have been singing English fans praises rather than bemoaning the rise of arrests to presumably keep himself in his well funded none job

Quoted from grimps

I read an article a couple of weeks ago with a quote from the chief police officer saying football related incidents were on the rise and they had 800 arrests at games in England  last year .
I then went onto google the total number of fans attending football games during the season in England .
It was over 30 million 😳
Now I’d say that is a massive success to have 30 million people cause so little trouble in high intensity settings with alcohol ect thrown  in to the equation too .
That police officer should have been singing English fans praises rather than bemoaning the rise of arrests to presumably keep himself in his well funded none job

Interesting. Never looked at it that way.

It’s easy to think 800 is a horrific number if you choose to ignore the vast numbers that do attend football…

There are plenty of incidents that occur causing stress, upset, possibly injury and inconvenience that won’t be considered offences worthy of arrest.
There will also be plenty that are in which no or few arrests will be made.
All football fans should not be vilified for the action of a minority of course but let’s not kid ourselves here - there are some people who go to football, purely for the purpose of bellendery and in doing so spoil the experience for others.

Quoted from Sandford1981

There are plenty of incidents that occur causing stress, upset, possibly injury and inconvenience that won’t be considered offences worthy of arrest.
There will also be plenty that are in which no or few arrests will be made.
All football fans should not be vilified for the action of a minority of course but let’s not kid ourselves here - there are some people who go to football, purely for the purpose of bellendery and in doing so spoil the experience of others.

It’s not just football, plenty of examples of mass brawls and obscene levels of drinking at horse racing.

Sadly, it’s highlighted in football. All really sad though that the issues everyone’s focussing were avoidable or have been dealt with and we can’t just marvel in the fact we won away from home with a last minute winner….that’s lotwrelly the dream…

Quoted from aldi_01

It’s not just football, plenty of examples of mass brawls and obscene levels of drinking at horse racing.

Sadly, it’s highlighted in football. All really sad though that the issues everyone’s focussing were avoidable or have been dealt with and we can’t just marvel in the fact we won away from home with a last minute winner….that’s lotwrelly the dream…

You can quite easily marvel in the away win and still talk about other things too.

Yes of course bad things happen at other gatherings, especially when drink is in the mix. It turns good people daft but when you mix drink, drugs and idiots anywhere it very rarely ends well.

Quoted from grimps

I read an article a couple of weeks ago with a quote from the chief police officer saying football related incidents were on the rise and they had 800 arrests at games in England  last year .
I then went onto google the total number of fans attending football games during the season in England .
It was over 30 million 😳
Now I’d say that is a massive success to have 30 million people cause so little trouble in high intensity settings with alcohol ect thrown  in to the equation too .
That police officer should have been singing English fans praises rather than bemoaning the rise of arrests to presumably keep himself in his well funded none job

Football related arrests have been on the way down for years. There's only an increase if you account for Covid making games behind closed doors last season. I think football in general has improved in terms of behaviour.

That being said, there is still a minority, usually kids trying to be 'hard' and man babies that drink too much, get abusive and make it an experience that I wouldn't want myself to be around, let alone my kids. The history of football makes it more highlighted, but those people will no doubt be the same ones that complain about early kick offs, dry trains, police treatment etc. I've been to matches in several other countries where it's a much more pleasant environment for families. On balance, there's countries where it's much worse, but I'd like football to be safe and enjoyable for everybody.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

The same numpty managed to force his way on to the row behind me during the 2nd half and I heard him call Arjan Raikhy a “f***ing useless P***” when he gave the ball away when we were still trailing. When I turned around and looked at him he decided to start abusing me instead and called me all sorts.

This one seems to have been glossed over in this thread, why is this still a thing? FFS, absolute bet wetting racist gonads

Quoted from GollyGTFC

If we play Notts next season everyone is going to moan when it’s a 1PM kick-off, when EMR make all their trains alcohol free, when the police are waiting for those fans at Nottingham station and don’t let them anywhere near a pub, when Notts County aren’t serving alcohol in the away end and when our allocation is restricted to 1,600 (80% of the seats) because some fans can’t just go to their allocated seat.

The train that EMR put on for the 1030 out of Cleethorpes has been out of service since as it got completely trashed and vandalised. BTP took it out of service. What's the point? Next time it won't be a longer train and alcohol free so I hope the same twits get left on the platform at Grimsby.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make. Yes society is full of scumbags, but that doesn’t mean that the football community should accept that X% of fans are going to be scumbags and not try and remove them from the game.

What I witnessed yesterday was a large amount of mainly younger fans acting in various examples of poor behaviour. Many clearly drunk to the point that a decent pub or club would refuse entry or to serve them anymore drinks.

A young numpty let off a smoke bomb by the kiosk in the concourse at around 14:35 and then throwing the smoke bomb at a steward and running off. Thankfully a Town fan pointed him out to another couple of stewards and he was apprehended in the stand with an unused smoke bomb in his possession and was taken away. Enjoy your 3 year football ban mate.

People choosing to stand in the gangways for the entire match rather than sit/stand in their designated seat. One numpty attempted to smoke a cigarette stood on the gangway next to my aisle seat and I politely asked him to go elsewhere if he wanted to smoke. He wasn’t happy but he did.

The same numpty managed to force his way on to the row behind me during the 2nd half and I heard him call Arjan Raikhy a “f***ing useless P***” when he gave the ball away when we were still trailing. When I turned around and looked at him he decided to start abusing me instead and called me all sorts.

After a few minutes of this someone with him pointed out I had my young son with me and he calmed down a bit and I heard him tell his mate how he himself was a good dad because “I bought her some nappies the other week to help her out”. Hmmm.

I am not trying to be a killjoy but the very least that can be expected is to have awareness for the other people around you and the distress it is causing. I witnessed 2 children visible upset and crying at the antics of these selfish morons.

These idiots might think football is a great opportunity to get excessively drunk and act in this way, but if it carries on we’ll end up with reduced allocations, lunchtime kick-offs, no alcohol on sale & more security type stewards on the turnstile turning away anyone who is clearly already drunk.

There’s a fine line and a sizeable minority crossed it yesterday.

I was the person stood on the row behind you who pointed this out to him. Him and his mates came and stood in front of us on our row, never seen the guy at a game before and quite clearly was actively looking for some kind of trouble.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I was the person stood on the row behind you who pointed this out to him. Him and his mates came and stood in front of us on our row, never seen the guy at a game before and quite clearly was actively looking for some kind of trouble.

I’ve just PMed you.

(Well I’m about to, so give it 2 minutes)

Quoted from Sandford1981

You can quite easily marvel in the away win and still talk about other things too.

Yes of course bad things happen at other gatherings, especially when drink is in the mix. It turns good people daft but when you mix drink, drugs and idiots anywhere it very rarely ends well.

I disagree. Drink and drugs make people say what they really think but wouldn’t say whilst not under the influence.

I’ve been drunk enough times in my life but it never turned me violent or racist.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I was the person stood on the row behind you who pointed this out to him. Him and his mates came and stood in front of us on our row, never seen the guy at a game before and quite clearly was actively looking for some kind of trouble.

Are you the nice bloke from Leeds who asked my son for a score prediction when we were losing and he said we’d win 2-1?

https://youtu.be/IR--ToReeL8

The Times with a video that largely features our moronic lot on Saturday

Quoted from aldi_01

It’s easy to think 800 is a horrific number if you choose to ignore the vast numbers that do attend football…

You also need to consider how many of those arrests where bullshit, like assaulting stewards with deadly inflatables.

Quoted from scrumble

You also need to consider how many of those arrests where bullshit, like assaulting stewards with deadly inflatables.

Don’t start that…they’ll be on your back on here…you can’t argue that stats are wrong or policing and stewarding at football is somewhat backwards at times…

Quoted from aldi_01

Don’t start that…they’ll be on your back on here…you can’t argue that stats are wrong or policing and stewarding at football is somewhat backwards at times…

......or some might say a case of burying our heads in the sand and turning a blind eye to a nasty, aggressive and racist element which follow Town.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Are you the nice bloke from Leeds who asked my son for a score prediction when we were losing and he said we’d win 2-1?

I’ve never been called a nice bloke from Leeds before but that is indeed me!

Unfortunately whilst there is undoubtedly an issue to discuss the lazy journalist has ruined his piece by stating the supporters he was filming in the stadium were Notts County fans who at securing a last minute free kick sung their intentions to invade the pitch if they scored...which they duly did.

If you can't get a simple thing like identifying which supporters are which right then you lose credibility.
Chucking in lazy comments like terrorising rail staff and passengers and disabled supporters without any documented evidence or proof of that shown either again ..poor.

I am sure we all know there is a drug use issue in society as a whole, locally definitely an issue with it out and about on a night out...but sensationalizing it against a backdrop of football .....
again cheap & lazy.

Do some real journalism and dig out a proper story and to quote someone we all know..." get your facts right" before publishing it.

I look forward to his next piece where he follows park rangers into the wild to reveal the disgusting behaviour of bears who have been deficating in beauty spots.

I was there Saturday  with a couple mates I travel with regularly to Town from a long way a way. Certain behaviour is unacceptable I certainly didn't see any unruly behaviour That's why we have the police to eradicate the unruly . Some weeks back myself and my daughter age  11 were on GY station heading to Cleethorpes for the Chesterfield at home  Its 11-30 am 200 away fans on the opposite platform all dressed in black like some Russian ultras the police rounded them up and took them back to gy after trekking around Top Town looking for grief..They looked pathetic I couldn't stop laughing .This is part of going to the match It's not nice but it's a type of escapism, no-one can justify it. we all support football clubs on different levels and have different views on what is a great day out at the footy is. Bad behaviour is nothing NEW

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I disagree. Drink and drugs make people say what they really think but wouldn’t say whilst not under the influence.

I’ve been drunk enough times in my life but it never turned me violent or racist.

Your experience of the game on Saturday proves my second point which was a mixture of Drink drugs and idiots doesn’t end well.
Not sure anyone can say with a straight face that alcohol doesn’t turn good people daft (I’m talking silly not violent or racist).

While i dont condone some of the behaviour i saw on Saturday some blame has to lie with the the police and EMR.
They know its a 3pm kick off.
One of Grimsby's best away days of the season.
They know  2500 Grimsby will be attending (at least half of which will come on the train).
Yet putting on special trains and coaches at additional cost to EMR is an after thought and a decision on the day?
What happened to the football specials?

Could have had all town fans on one train direct. In and out and boisterous fans not bothering other train users.
Throw in a few police/no alcohol on the train and a lot of these problems could have been avoided. UTM

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve never been called a nice bloke from Leeds before but that is indeed me!

Well, by Leeds standards you are.

Lazy journalism throughout the piece

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve never been called a nice bloke from Leeds before but that is indeed me!

He's not under the influence of drugs or alcohol so held back his real thoughts 😉

The football liaison officers seemed to have plenty of time to arrange for a reporter to travel with them but not enough to arrange extra train carriages .
I suspect if the police took a sniffer dog to the Times Christmas staff party they’d find more than 5 bags of drugs

I suspect if the sniffer dogs had hung around hooters after the match, their yield of gak would’ve been significantly higher…

Quoted from pontoonlew

I was the person stood on the row behind you who pointed this out to him. Him and his mates came and stood in front of us on our row, never seen the guy at a game before and quite clearly was actively looking for some kind of trouble.

Wonder if it was the same guy/group abusing the female kiosk worker, pushing the till off and chucking milk on people. Absolute w@nkers

I was on the train and tbh it was an absolute joke of a service. Never saw anything bad personally in the section I was in apart from the fact we were crammed in so much that we were could basically smell each other’s breath. Hard to feel sympathy for the train service, definitely feel sympathy for the people who missed trains due to whatever reason, be it the train service not planning properly so they couldn’t get on at stops, or due to the mess left behind

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Is newarkmariner your username because you live in Newark or just a handy anagram?

Football is for everyone. A sizeable minority on Saturday showed a complete disregard for their fellow supporters on Saturday and caused noticeable distress to some younger fans and ruined their enjoyment.

No ones asking for anything unreasonable. Sit/stand in the seat you were allocated. Don’t bring smoke bombs/flairs to the game. Don’t drink so much that you are excessively drunk. Have a bit of awareness for the people around you- especially the young and old. Show the same level of respect to Notts County staff as we would expect the staff in our away end to be shown by fans visiting Blundell Park:

I’m old enough to remember how away fans used to be treated. The fact is if football continues on its current course those restrictive measures will come back for the clubs who fans cause the biggest issues.

If we play Notts next season everyone is going to moan when it’s a 1PM kick-off, when EMR make all their trains alcohol free, when the police are waiting for those fans at Nottingham station and don’t let them anywhere near a pub, when Notts County aren’t serving alcohol in the away end and when our allocation is restricted to 1,600 (80% of the seats) because some fans can’t just go to their allocated seat.

Football isn’t just about the result. It’s about it being an enjoyable overall experience. When it stops being that you end up with attendances like English football experienced in the 1980s.

Golly. About time we found some common ground. Post of the week me thinks