The Expectation from certain fans

Im quite baffled by certain fans about Hursty, not all but to me the impatient ones. Some saying he isn't the man and should of never been re-appointed, some saying he's got one season and thats it.
Well heres my point of view on the matter. Firstly I think Hurst is possibly the best appointment we could of made, got us back into the league under a scrooge of a chairman, unfortunately jumped ship because of that scrooge of a chairman and not wanting to develop for a future of our club.  His move to shrewsbury and what he did there was more than incredible, Id of hoped to of seen him stay there instead of jumping to Ipswich but its the big lights and the next step to the big league. Skip scunthorpe and his move back here to reassemble a squad of chancers, un-fit and enough to fill a double decker bus in size, a squad that had no confidence, fed god knows how much bulllshit from the bristol idiot, and to try and do something with it which he clearly couldn't and I don't think your top flight managers could either. So a massive a draft of players required within a very short period who we all no once adapted with each other grafted for us and started playing football that was good to watch, a team with confidence and something solid looking.
Now our past problems have been managers, good players coming and going quickly in one door and out the other, no rebuilding and keeping hold of players that are good, no nothing. So Here we have a lifeline, a huge lifeline thats saving our club, it looks to be solid, positive and something thats for the future and will no doubt take time. So please lets all be patient, let the man build and progress, I don't expect wonders straight away from the new owners or hursty its all going to take time and for once in my entire life of being a town fan I feel good for whats to come. Lets get behind the club as a whole for the coming seasons and move as one! Its always been us and them (the board) a separation of anger and I aren't jumping the gun but the positivity Stockwood has shown seems genuine and this is what we need, all together one big unit the fans and the club UTFM FOREVER.

I’ve no doubt that some fans will be on his case every time we drop points and will be raging if we’re not top all season. Thankfully it looks like Stockwood understands the need for stability. Every managerial appointment apart from Hurst has been a failure for as long as I can remember so for me sacking him would risk us doing a Wrexham. For anyone thinking it will be easy remember that freezing day at Wembley when they played us off the park and looked to be coasting to promotion? That was 8 years ago and they’ve been there ever since. Already people suggesting giving him two years to build a promotion side is too much which doesn’t fill me with confidence that the toxic minority have increased their football knowledge

People don’t like Hurst Becauee he called the fans out and then cupped his ear because some deluded morons thought it was good to go after him because we played excrement in the first leg against Braintree.

Nobody has ever disagrees that Hurst can be negative at times but literally every fan can lick fault with their manager and style at times. Remember when folk moaned about Buckley sides being too cautious and not having a shot from distance?

Fans need to bet off their high and mighty and look at the situation. The club was and is currently bollocksed. One man and some hangers on are responsible for that. We needed a manager that could at least bring some level of harmony to that ramshackle squad. He’s done that and as we saw last time, the ones not good enough or not buying in to that eventually find themselves out the door.

Aside from Holloway only ever coming here and essentially exploiting fans and the club for his own financial gain, his ideas were bizarre. He relied on very good loan players and short term contracts last year...those players, when offered something better couldn’t wait to gwt away. That wasn’t necessarily down to Holloway, but once again, the leadership of the club. Perhaps those players didn’t like the amateur nature of our training facilities or the cheap bottom contracts and the likes. It’s easy to stick it out for 6 months but any longer than that I’d imagine you’d need a special bond with the place.

Holloway proved in the summer he was a flipping xharalatan and a moron. Some of us predicted he’d be a disaster from the get go.

I’d imagine word has well and truly gotten around about the club and Fenty over the years, during the current climate and the precarious position the club was in I can’t imagine many were queuing up for the job and as a fan there’s no way anyone truly trusted Fenty’s opinion on choosing a manager. The successful none we had he eventually chased away.

Hurst is here Becauee the consortium want him here and he’s clearly been a part of their plans.

We have to look forward and fans that don’t like him really need to be less precious. Aside from Buckley he is the only manager in the last 30od years to have any sort of success and build a team that everyone genuinely connected with...

It just shows are far we have fallen when we all agree that Hurst has been our most successful manager in the last 20 odd years and for what? Getting us out the the conference at the 6th attempt through the lottery of the play-offs. Hurst was on his last legs that year and if we hadn’t of gone up he would of rightly been sacked the fans had had enough of him.

Just remember Hurst only came back here because he didn’t get the Bradford job, he didn’t even apply for the vacant job here (he made that clear) it was only because our board went crawling to him, which is what baffles me with his worshippers. That said he’s here now and I will support him next season.

Quoted from Humbercod

Just remember Hurst only came back here because he didn’t get the Bradford job, he didn’t even apply for the vacant job here (he made that clear) it was only because our board went crawling to him, which is what baffles me with his worshippers. That said he’s here now and I will support him next season.

more lies. Hurst's appointment was the consortium's choice. He would never have come back if it he thought Fenty was still going to be in charge

Quoted from aldi_01

People don’t like Hurst Becauee he called the fans out and then cupped his ear because some deluded morons thought it was good to go after him because we played excrement in the first leg against Braintree.

Nobody has ever disagrees that Hurst can be negative at times but literally every fan can lick fault with their manager and style at times. Remember when folk moaned about Buckley sides being too cautious and not having a shot from distance?

Fans need to bet off their high and mighty and look at the situation. The club was and is currently bollocksed. One man and some hangers on are responsible for that. We needed a manager that could at least bring some level of harmony to that ramshackle squad. He’s done that and as we saw last time, the ones not good enough or not buying in to that eventually find themselves out the door.

Aside from Holloway only ever coming here and essentially exploiting fans and the club for his own financial gain, his ideas were bizarre. He relied on very good loan players and short term contracts last year...those players, when offered something better couldn’t wait to gwt away. That wasn’t necessarily down to Holloway, but once again, the leadership of the club. Perhaps those players didn’t like the amateur nature of our training facilities or the cheap bottom contracts and the likes. It’s easy to stick it out for 6 months but any longer than that I’d imagine you’d need a special bond with the place.

Holloway proved in the summer he was a flipping xharalatan and a moron. Some of us predicted he’d be a disaster from the get go.

I’d imagine word has well and truly gotten around about the club and Fenty over the years, during the current climate and the precarious position the club was in I can’t imagine many were queuing up for the job and as a fan there’s no way anyone truly trusted Fenty’s opinion on choosing a manager. The successful none we had he eventually chased away.

Hurst is here Becauee the consortium want him here and he’s clearly been a part of their plans.

We have to look forward and fans that don’t like him really need to be less precious. Aside from Buckley he is the only manager in the last 30od years to have any sort of success and build a team that everyone genuinely connected with...

Saying fans don’t like Hurst ‘because he cupped his ear’ is a lazy thing to say and doesn’t take into account any of the perfectly valid opinions on him.

Hurst has won me round in many areas towards the back end of the season and I’m pleased he’ll be staying, but it’s incredibly naive to think the reason people don’t like him is because of one celebration.

Honestly Humbercod I don't think there are a massive group of Hurst worshippers out there just a lot of pragmatic people. People who see him for what he is, a hard working guy who is the ONLY person has managed at least some success at the juggernaut career killer that GTFC has become.

The end of Slade really hit home for me, I never wanted him back from day one, the wrong appointment totally. But watching the guy fall apart towards the end was quite unsettling, that post Yeovil interview especially, I mean this is an experienced manager after all, with like 20 years in management. Jolley literally exploded. Holloway, well I mean, his interviews got stranger and stranger until he just decided to disappear, practically overnight.

People can point at this club and that club and say well they changed manager and look they turned it around, but for me that totally misses the point. We've been going nowhere for a long time, people can say it's all excuses and expect us to be successful in spite of everything, but honestly, I don't think that's reasonable.

The last 17 years seem to support that point of view, to me at least. DBs stat of 17 different stints of people in charge, was one I frankly hadn't seen before but tells you everything you need to know.

I’m not bothered about the cupping the ear incident, I just think he is a useless manager, as a few other clubs do.

Quoted from forza ivano

more lies. Hurst's appointment was the consortium's choice. He would never have come back if it he thought Fenty was still going to be in charge

Get off your high horse! it was quoted in the press that the consortium were very supportive of the board's decision.

Quoted from aldi_01

People don’t like Hurst Becauee he called the fans out and then cupped his ear because some deluded morons thought it was good to go after him because we played excrement in the first leg against Braintree.

Nobody has ever disagrees that Hurst can be negative at times but literally every fan can lick fault with their manager and style at times. Remember when folk moaned about Buckley sides being too cautious and not having a shot from distance?

Fans need to bet off their high and mighty and look at the situation. The club was and is currently bollocksed. One man and some hangers on are responsible for that. We needed a manager that could at least bring some level of harmony to that ramshackle squad. He’s done that and as we saw last time, the ones not good enough or not buying in to that eventually find themselves out the door.

Aside from Holloway only ever coming here and essentially exploiting fans and the club for his own financial gain, his ideas were bizarre. He relied on very good loan players and short term contracts last year...those players, when offered something better couldn’t wait to gwt away. That wasn’t necessarily down to Holloway, but once again, the leadership of the club. Perhaps those players didn’t like the amateur nature of our training facilities or the cheap bottom contracts and the likes. It’s easy to stick it out for 6 months but any longer than that I’d imagine you’d need a special bond with the place.

Holloway proved in the summer he was a flipping xharalatan and a moron. Some of us predicted he’d be a disaster from the get go.

I’d imagine word has well and truly gotten around about the club and Fenty over the years, during the current climate and the precarious position the club was in I can’t imagine many were queuing up for the job and as a fan there’s no way anyone truly trusted Fenty’s opinion on choosing a manager. The successful none we had he eventually chased away.

Hurst is here Becauee the consortium want him here and he’s clearly been a part of their plans.

We have to look forward and fans that don’t like him really need to be less precious. Aside from Buckley he is the only manager in the last 30od years to have any sort of success and build a team that everyone genuinely connected with...

Well I must be a moron then. My first ever post on here was in about February that season in exasperation calling for Hurst to dispense with Monkhouse and 4-4-2 in favour of playing Clay in a midfield three with Disley and Nolan. How poor were we towards the end of that season limping into the play-offs behind Braintree and how did playing three in centre midfield work out in the return leg at Braintree and the final then?

I actually like Hurst as a character, but I do have certain misgivings about him managing us next season. Quite prepared to see how his recruitment is in the window and how we're going around Xmas before taking a view. Far more interested to learn of what plans Stockwood and Pettit have for the club going forward than whether Hurst is manager or not. It's far more important. Hoping to be excited and fearing of being underwhelmed at the same time. Not long to wait to find out.. but at least that charlatan Fenty will be out of the building, a major step forward for the club all on it's own..

Quoted from Bigdog

Well I must be a moron then. My first ever post on here was in about February that season calling for Hurst to dispense with Monkhouse and 4-4-2 in favour of playing Clay in a midfield three with Disley and Nolan. How poor were we towards the end of that season limping into the play-offs behind Braintree and how did playing three in centre midfield work out in  the return leg at Braintree and the final then?

I actually like Hurst as a character, but I do have certain misgivings about him managing us next season. Quite prepared to see how his recruitment is in the window and how we're going around Xmas before taking a view. Far more interested to learn of what plans Stockwood and Pettit have for the club going forward than whether Hurst is manager or not. It's far more important. Hoping to be excited and fearing of being underwhelmed at the same time. Not long to wait to find out.. but at least that charlatan Fenty will be out of the building, a major step forward for the club all on it's own..

I did say some...believe me, I’ve met fans that don’t like him for that exact reason.

I’m much more interested in how the consortium drive us forward and alter the club and so forth. In tiers it’s the only thing keeping me a tad postive...

Quoted from OneLove

Im quite baffled by certain fans about Hursty, not all but to me the impatient ones. Some saying he isn't the man and should of never been re-appointed, some saying he's got one season and thats it.
Well heres my point of view on the matter. Firstly I think Hurst is possibly the best appointment we could of made, got us back into the league under a scrooge of a chairman, unfortunately jumped ship because of that scrooge of a chairman and not wanting to develop for a future of our club.  His move to shrewsbury and what he did there was more than incredible, Id of hoped to of seen him stay there instead of jumping to Ipswich but its the big lights and the next step to the big league. Skip scunthorpe and his move back here to reassemble a squad of chancers, un-fit and enough to fill a double decker bus in size, a squad that had no confidence, fed god knows how much bulllshit from the bristol idiot, and to try and do something with it which he clearly couldn't and I don't think your top flight managers could either. So a massive a draft of players required within a very short period who we all no once adapted with each other grafted for us and started playing football that was good to watch, a team with confidence and something solid looking.
Now our past problems have been managers, good players coming and going quickly in one door and out the other, no rebuilding and keeping hold of players that are good, no nothing. So Here we have a lifeline, a huge lifeline thats saving our club, it looks to be solid, positive and something thats for the future and will no doubt take time. So please lets all be patient, let the man build and progress, I don't expect wonders straight away from the new owners or hursty its all going to take time and for once in my entire life of being a town fan I feel good for whats to come. Lets get behind the club as a whole for the coming seasons and move as one! Its always been us and them (the board) a separation of anger and I aren't jumping the gun but the positivity Stockwood has shown seems genuine and this is what we need, all together one big unit the fans and the club UTFM FOREVER.

I think we've been patient for twenty friggin years !!!!!!!

I agree with Swansea Mariner in that I think most fans are pragmatic toward Hurst and just want to see a bit of stability and a hope that he can build a side like he did last time. One connected to the fans and one that was capable of beating Scunny in the FA Cup and giving Huddersfield a great game in the same competition, instead of the team he inherited, that had just gone out of the cup at bottom of non league Dagenham.

I'm pragmatic in that I'm not expecting us to go tearing up the National League, because it is a very tough league to win. Some fans think we should just turn up and win every game because we are the mighty GTFC.

It's sickening that we've ended up back at the bottom of the pile, but that's where we are and Hurst is going to be manager whether we like it or not, so let's just get behind him and the new owners and see what happens before we start calling for change.

As was pointed out, we have averaged a manager a season in the reign of JF and that included almost 6 years with PH. Doesn't that tell you something?

I don't think it's expectations as much as a minority have it out for the guy because he called fans out on their BS and doesn't constantly lick their bottom. There are legit reasons that people critique him for but some people couldn't wait to start ranting the second his return was announced like he drunk in their coffee or something. Being too cautious with subs to the point they are often too late to be effective is something I dislike but he didn't have one game before a couple of people started moaning. I think it's right that some people just dislike him because he said some mean things about fan attitudes and because he quit to take a job with a team higher up after getting us promoted out of non league.

Could see how much some of the same people loved it when Holloway started licking their arses and going on about how great the area is and how did that turn out? We are where we are and we have the manager we have so we'll just have to get on with it. Hopefully the takeover can go through for once and the manager will be backed along with the club rebuilt. There has been a culture in the club of accepting failure when it comes to how the club is run and cronyism in the boardroom and it'll take some time to remove the stench.

Last game
Must win. MUST WIN.
Green & Lewis up front
Says it all

Quoted from nightrider

Last game
Must win. MUST WIN.
Green & Lewis up front
Says it all

So who then?

Quoted from nightrider

Last game
Must win. MUST WIN.
Green & Lewis up front
Says it all

Kane and Aguero were injured

For me it's a fresh start. I've watched alot of his interviews and watched alot of our games. His interviews and the way he comes across is much better and I believe he's got us playing well and results improved (not enough obviously)
So in my head although he's been here before I'm giving him a clean slate and forgetting that previous 'love in'

Quoted from nightrider

Last game
Must win. MUST WIN.
Green & Lewis up front
Says it all

Hanson injured.
Lamy a possibility but not really a striker.
Jackson - there is obviously something Hurst doesn't trust or he thinks he's too inexperienced. He could have played.
You'll recall one of our our strikers headbutted a team mate and made himself unavailable!

Who else?

And that would be the Matt Green who had scored 4 days earlier in a critical game when he'd been told he was playing DURING the warm up.

Criticising our line up at Exeter is a bit bizarre tbh it's clear we're down to the last men standing hence Green starting.

I really like Hurst, but agree with some on here who say he’s more concerned with not losing than going out to win. It’s fair enough in some cases, but you want a team to be confident in their ability to go and win, not have an organised battle and hope for a good outcome.

I say it every year but we really, really need to get off to a good start next year and be pushing for the top spots. I don’t get why getting 3 points in August isn’t treated with the same urgency as getting 3 points in April, regardless or which end of the table you’re at.

When was the last time we had a decent start over the first 10 games? Probably not in my lifetime.

Quoted from BobbyCummingsTackle

Hanson injured.
Lamy a possibility but not really a striker.
Jackson - there is obviously something Hurst doesn't trust or he thinks he's too inexperienced. He could have played.
You'll recall one of our our strikers headbutted a team mate and made himself unavailable!

Who else?

And that would be the Matt Green who had scored 4 days earlier in a critical game when he'd been told he was playing DURING the warm up.

Yes you're right, that goal green scored was fully intentional and then he ended up having a sensational game and ran Exeter ragged - Paul Hurst was correct to pick him and not go with a fit Jackson

Quoted from nightrider

Yes you're right, that goal green scored was fully intentional and then he ended up having a sensational game and ran Exeter ragged - Paul Hurst was correct to pick him and not go with a fit Jackson

Alright, put your handbag away girlfriend......

I noted Jackson could have played but it's obvious Hurst doesn't trust/rate/want him. I'd have preferred Jackson to start but I don't see him every day in training, I don't know what he says to Hurst and I do know that Green scored at Oldham.

When the sh*t hit the fan Green scored and that's what you pay strikers for, regardless of how pretty the goal is. If your criteria for picking strikers this season is having a sensational game and running the opposition ragged we would have started most games with 6 in midfield.

Quoted from Bigdog

Well I must be a moron then. My first ever post on here was in about February that season in exasperation calling for Hurst to dispense with Monkhouse and 4-4-2 in favour of playing Clay in a midfield three with Disley and Nolan. How poor were we towards the end of that season limping into the play-offs behind Braintree and how did playing three in centre midfield work out in the return leg at Braintree and the final then?

I actually like Hurst as a character, but I do have certain misgivings about him managing us next season. Quite prepared to see how his recruitment is in the window and how we're going around Xmas before taking a view. Far more interested to learn of what plans Stockwood and Pettit have for the club going forward than whether Hurst is manager or not. It's far more important. Hoping to be excited and fearing of being underwhelmed at the same time. Not long to wait to find out.. but at least that charlatan Fenty will be out of the building, a major step forward for the club all on it's own..

I will join you in the moron ranks. Going forward, I hope PH has learnt a lot in the way of tactics and substitutions over the past 5 years. There will be a lot of sides coming to BP and parking the bus. When this has happened before Hurst didn’t seem to anticipate it and looked pretty clueless about how to deal with it.

I would settle for just getting out of the NFL any old how. We don’t want another 5 years slowly building up to a play off, I want to see us bully sides home and away. Hurst has said the right things about fitness, it does matter. Therefore facilities matter. We also need to do something about the seemingly endless stream of training injuries. But most of all we need to have tactical ideas on how to get results even from lousy games, 3 points not one, look how that has cost us. Plus we need at least one player sharp enough to take those half chances that put opponents on the back foot.

Quoted from ska face

I really like Hurst, but agree with some on here who say he’s more concerned with not losing than going out to win. It’s fair enough in some cases, but you want a team to be confident in their ability to go and win, not have an organised battle and hope for a good outcome.

I say it every year but we really, really need to get off to a good start next year and be pushing for the top spots. I don’t get why getting 3 points in August isn’t treated with the same urgency as getting 3 points in April, regardless or which end of the table you’re at.

When was the last time we had a decent start over the first 10 games? Probably not in my lifetime.

1990-91 season.

Pretty good start in 1998-99. And in 2001-02  weat least resultswise if not the performances.

2005-06? Certainly won a lot away.