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Northbank Mariner
April 2, 2021, 5:49pm
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As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.


I agree with you but have to point out...

Hurst did not have six years in charge

He had just over two seasons with Scott and just under three alone ( or with Doig as his right hand man )
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Still won’t be watching next year if there is still J Fenty involved
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Thought this was gonna be a Hursty bash but some positivity! Shame really he's turned us into a tough team to beat and if he'd come in a bit earlier we wouldn't be in this mire. Just got to try to stay positive.
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I agree with you but have to point out...

Hurst did not have six years in charge

He had just over two seasons with Scott and just under three alone ( or with Doig as his right hand man )


To be fair he was manager for 5 years and 7 months which rounds up to 6 years.
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To be fair he was manager for 5 years and 7 months which rounds up to 6 years.


But you can take just over 5 months off that because we were back in the league

So that can be rounded down to 5 years in non-league  
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it’s a shame he had such a slow start which has cost no new manager bounce.
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.


Agreed, we are a competitive team now, been a bit unlucky he has my support and it is a pity we donot have longer
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.


Agreed, however a manager in my opinion needs a full season to get his squad right.


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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.


Same as you mate except the last paragraph.
I don't want him here next season if we go down.
Over the last 7 games with a settled side we have been the best all season. The only reason we haven't picked up points is LJL can't finish, if he could we would have at least 6 more points.


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner
As one of the few that didn't want him can I give him some credit.
7 undefeated and he's having a go at being more attack minded.
Still needs to work on his substitutions but I honestly believe if he'd have been in charge 1 month earlier we'd be out the relegation zone now.
Has to be given next year to try n get us back up, but not 6 years, not again.


Like I mentioned in another thread, going undefeated doesn't mean much if you can't win games and the teams around you are getting similar points to us.

As for being attacked minded the three forwards today weren't up to much, Payne was dreadful, Hanson won plenty of headers but they didn't come to much and LJL failed with 3 good chances.

Our main reason for not closing the gap is our abject failure to put away teams around us (apart from Barrow) and those on poor runs like Salford, Walsall, Colchester, Carlisle, Leyton Orient.

Hurst's record now is 15 games 12 points with a points tally of 0.8 a game as well as only scoring more than one goal in two of those games.

We need wins not draws if we are to escape the drop.

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We also have to bear in mind PH put this squad together very quickly from a limited pool of players. Not exactly blind panic but approaching it, so I think he's done ok to get us this close. Hanging on against Carlisle and Salford today would have been massive of course
Net season will depend on who's in charge and how the club is run
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You need an impact as soon as you take over unfortunatly it's took too long coupled with too many draws , for what it's worth i'd give him nxt yr to get us back up
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Don’t forget what he walked in to, the squad was massive in terms of numbers and completely unsuitable for a league 2 campaign.

Add to that at least one of them didn’t  want to be here and they probably didn’t know their @rse hole from their ear holes after being exposed to that nut job Holloway it was always going to be a big job.

I firmly believe he brought in who he could and players he trusted to add the right attitude.

Regardless of which league where in next season we’ll be much better for sure.




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I think if when we go down he should go.

Bringing in LJL has proven a poor choice i like him but he cannot score and misses sitters his other players have been poor.

Struggles to close out a game nearly every time and cannot score more than 1 goal.

So for me a fresh start and a new board.
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We could and probably should have had 8-10 points more out of the last seven games even with a catalogue of injuries. Anyone suggesting PH doesn’t deserve the job needs their bumps felt. We’re harder to beat and starting to score in most games. Maybe it’s too late, hopefully not.
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Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend
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More organised.. more settled ...not sure which comes first but he has achieved that.
Players working hard as a group and seem to be running for each other.
Matete, Coke, Menayese have solidified the spine.....its a shame he hasnt quite found the solution up front to win us the games that he is managing to keep us in.

Payne playing out wide doesnt really bring alot for me and LJL just doesnt have the quality.



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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend


Oh do bore off!..
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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend


Asking for a friend? Not sure he counts.
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Quoted from MuddyWaters


Asking for a friend? Not sure he counts.


It’s a fair question though hey. I’d imagine though, a question that too many on here will be too embarrassed to give an honest answer to. Especially those that have cited managerial appointments on their list of Fenty dislikes
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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend


Sacking a manager suddenly after only 4 months in charge with not a bad track record and bringing in a manager without a single winners medal to his name would be more of a questionable managerial decision.


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20 years of bad manager choices you think he might of flukes one good one.
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Quoted from Mariner Ronnie


Sacking a manager suddenly after only 4 months in charge with not a bad track record and bringing in a manager without a single winners medal to his name would be more of a questionable managerial decision.


I agree

But there’s plenty in here that won’t agree, but probably won’t say so, because it highlights how ridiculous they are in judging owners
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Agree with Northbank, I really didn’t want him here but I have to give him some credit. In a relatively short space of time he’s turned a useless team into one that now looks organised hard to beat and confident......something which was severely lacking.
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Without sounding rude I don't come on enough to know everyone's names and poster usernames etc.. But there's one or two that I'm starting to notice come up more often than not when I'm reading their rubbish.... Fans forum and we all have our opinions etc but seriously either get out of a certain person's back side or if you are that certain person just stop posting and logout.
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Quoted from Yoda
I think if when we go down he should go.

Bringing in LJL has proven a poor choice i like him but he cannot score and misses sitters his other players have been poor.

Struggles to close out a game nearly every time and cannot score more than 1 goal.

So for me a fresh start and a new board.


Didn’t you watch any games before Christmas or do you just have a complete lack of understanding of the fundamentals? There were games under Holloway were we had not outlet whatsoever and ended up playing the majority of games in our own half. LJL’s hold up play is crucial for us being able to get up the pitch. If he was a prolific goal scorer he wouldn’t be with us.
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I thought the general consensus on here was that Fenty’s management appointments have not been that bad.

Newell was a complete lack of due diligence, Holloway wasn’t here for the football and I love Neil Woods to bits but he was the wrong choice.

Most of the rest of the managers have been reasonable. It was mainly the Board that caused their downfall due to a complete lack of support, rather than the recruitment being wrong.
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All that mattered when he arrived was our league position and that’s got much, much worse despite signing a brand new team. After his pathetic start, I kept being told to wait for him to sign new players, then wait for them all to gel etc. I’m sick of waiting.

If we finish bottom he simply cannot be allowed to continue.

Yes he’s working under the constraints that managing GTFC come with, but nobody mentions it being an impossible job when they look back at Holloway, slade, bignot etc. I’ve no idea why everyone cuts him so much slack. If it’s to do with getting us promoted all those years ago then that just sums up our backward looking fanbase!

It’s a result business and since he left Shrewsbury in 2018 his have been shocking!


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Quoted from MuddyWaters
We could and probably should have had 8-10 points more out of the last seven games even with a catalogue of injuries. Anyone suggesting PH doesn’t deserve the job needs their bumps felt. We’re harder to beat and starting to score in most games. Maybe it’s too late, hopefully not.


The point is we didn't.

Come the end of the season Paul Hurst will have been in charge for 23 games, 50%, if we continue in the same form we are in  now and draw our last 8 games he will have a worst points per game total than Ian Holloway. Now I was never a fan of Holloway but let's not forget we had no real pre-season plus players having to isolate as well as having loads of new players so if the excuse for Paul Hurst that he didn't have time to get the squad going then the same could be said for Holloway.
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All that mattered when he arrived was our league position and that’s got much, much worse despite signing a brand new team. After his pathetic start, I kept being told to wait for him to sign new players, then wait for them all to gel etc. I’m sick of waiting.

If we finish bottom he simply cannot be allowed to continue.

Yes he’s working under the constraints that managing GTFC come with, but nobody mentions it being an impossible job when they look back at Holloway, slade, bignot etc. I’ve no idea why everyone cuts him so much slack. If it’s to do with getting us promoted all those years ago then that just sums up our backward looking fanbase!

It’s a result business and since he left Shrewsbury in 2018 his have been shocking!


I don’t think it’s about what he did when he was here previously but it has to be said in 50 years or so only 4 managers have won promotion whilst at Town.

I can’t speak for others and at times I think he’s made some iffy calls, all managers do that but he does really care, works hard and unlike those that followed him you can see how he’s trying to build a side, it’s clearly slow progress and will no doubt not be done in time to beat the drop, but it is what it is I guess.

The other thing that he deserves a bit of credit for is that generally players respect him and thus will play for him. A good example of this was Scott Neilson who looked like he fell out with Hurst and left under a cloud but I used to work with his cousin Danny who said that Scott really respected Hurst and liked him as he was always honest and fair with him.


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If you have evidence previous managers didn’t really care, work hard or try build a side then yeah fully agree he’s an improvement. If you don’t then would rather look at results


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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend


Appointing a manager isn't the end of it though. You then have to back them with a decent budget, coaching staff, analysts, training facilities and all the things other clubs seem to have and we lack.

Hurst was JF's best appointment but he lost him because he didn't back him in the EFL. We've been going down the pan ever since.
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Quoted from psgmariner
If you have evidence previous managers didn’t really care, work hard or try build a side then yeah fully agree he’s an improvement. If you don’t then would rather look at results


Well the last one f*****d off at the earliest opportunity rather than standing and fighting to reverse what he’d made such a balls up of, so on the caring point you don’t have to look that far back.  


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Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Jason Stockwood likes Hursty and he will be here next season under Stockwood and Petit

So tell me guys, given that managerial appointments had always been high up on the criticism charts for John Fenty. Does this make Stockwood and Petit bad custodians straight away, if they don’t bring in a new manager and get rid of Hurst?

You can’t have it both ways. You cannot pick and choose how you pillory John but judge the newcomers differently for the same decisions. Not to mention the fact that the consortium were instrumental in Paul Hursts appointment

Asking for a friend


So what you are saying is that JF, majority shareholder / chairman in all effectiveness.... allowed some tyre kickers to appoint a manager of his football club despite them not being board members ?  That just makes him sound even worse.  


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Gotta give him credit for perusing the signing of Giles coke too, he’s getting stronger every game.
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Gotta give him credit for perusing the signing of Giles coke too, he’s getting stronger every game.


I think the fact that we signed two 30+ year old players from a mid-table National League North side and drastically improved our first eleven says a lot about the sheer calamity of the post-Covid Holloway era.

It’s almost as if he’d stopped caring for some reason...


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If we finish bottom he simply cannot be allowed to continue.


I don’t think you will have to worry. If Fenty stays in any meaningful capacity I think Hurst will walk and failing that Fenty will ensure Hurst is pushed. Hurst approached the consortium in the belief Fenty was going. Fenty being the child that he is won’t forgive Hurst for the manner he left the first time round. Unless Fenty goes Hurst won’t be staying much longer.
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I don’t think you will have to worry. If Fenty stays in any meaningful capacity I think Hurst will walk and failing that Fenty will ensure Hurst is pushed. Hurst approached the consortium in the belief Fenty was going. Fenty being the child that he is won’t forgive Hurst for the manner he left the first time round. Unless Fenty goes Hurst won’t be staying much longer.


i agree 100%. i've listened to an awful lot of his interviews, and i might be wrong, but he never mentions day or fenty.However he has on a number of occasions talked about the consortium.
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Just watched post match interview on I follow. JT asks Hurst about takeover right at the end. I think it is very clear that if the takeover doesn't happen Hurst will go.
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Just watched post match interview on I follow. JT asks Hurst about takeover right at the end. I think it is very clear that if the takeover doesn't happen Hurst will go.

i will repeat what i just said - which was posted before i heard the interview
i agree 100%. i've listened to an awful lot of his interviews, and i might be wrong, but he never mentions day or fenty.However he has on a number of occasions talked about the consortium.
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Same as you mate except the last paragraph.
I don't want him here next season if we go down.
Over the last 7 games with a settled side we have been the best all season. The only reason we haven't picked up points is LJL can't finish, if he could we would have at least 6 more points.


If he could finish regularly he wouldn’t be here, what he does bring is a competitive nature up top and never say die attitude that had been completely lacking all season.

I never wanted Hurst back and was uninspired by him signing LJL however these past 2 months have changed my opinion of both totally. Hurst shopping in the A&E wards , non league and the dole queue has managed to cobble together a team that is in play off position in form table , very hard to beat and fine margins from winning most of the 7 games unbeaten. Those reasons alone should inspire confidence that he will get us back on track given a normal transfer window , summer and preseason regardless of which league we will operate in.
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Just watched post match interview on I follow. JT asks Hurst about takeover right at the end. I think it is very clear that if the takeover doesn't happen Hurst will go.


I listened to it but didn’t pick that up, what did he say? What did I miss?


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I thought the general consensus on here was that Fenty’s management appointments have not been that bad.

Newell was a complete lack of due diligence, Holloway wasn’t here for the football and I love Neil Woods to bits but he was the wrong choice.

Most of the rest of the managers have been reasonable. It was mainly the Board that caused their downfall due to a complete lack of support, rather than the recruitment being wrong.


This is exactly right, I don't think any of our managers have really stood a reasonable chance of bringing town success.
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If he could finish regularly he wouldn’t be here, what he does bring is a competitive nature up top and never say die attitude that had been completely lacking all season.

I never wanted Hurst back and was uninspired by him signing LJL however these past 2 months have changed my opinion of both totally. Hurst shopping in the A&E wards , non league and the dole queue has managed to cobble together a team that is in play off position in form table , very hard to beat and fine margins from winning most of the 7 games unbeaten. Those reasons alone should inspire confidence that he will get us back on track given a normal transfer window , summer and preseason regardless of which league we will operate in.


This is reassuring: I have always been a Hurst fan, but was losing patience for a while. Conversely, it's nice to see that most fans who didn't want Hurst can appreciate the challenges he's had and the current run of form being impressive - if not enough to save us (which was never Hurst's doing in the first place that we needed such a miracle)

There'll be some who hate him whatever he does, and others who flip-flop based on the most recent run of form, but I do think he massively deserves a chance next season now.
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I am a Hurst fan - always have been
But that doesn't mean to say he should not be criticised
Like players at L2 level - who have limitations - so do managers (if not, they'd all be PL bosses)

Hurst's great strength is team bonding, a team that gives 100%, a team that plays for the badge, is well drilled and organised and very hard to beat; I would be staggered if we got thrashed in remaining games

But what we gain there we lose on the 'attacking' front; yesterday was a perfect example of how we were unable to go for the throat (not all PH's fault)

But he should have freshened up the attack after 60mins at latest

Payne, Lamy off and Green, Williams on
Then Spokes for Coke at 65/70 mins (more for fresh legs than anything)

We never seem to be able to get that killer second goal - and part of that is too happy to sit back and take it a minute at a time running clock down.
PH could/should be on touchline waving them forward - not reckless but trying really hard to get that second.
We are too happy to let things drift into a boring stalemate

We were never in any real danger but at 1-0 you are always vulnerable

I just wish PH was a little more adventurous with his mindset - but having said that 90% why we lose leads is a lack of ruthlessness at both ends (mainly up top)
Lenny - 100% honest, has made it much harder for defences, always a handful, gets chances... but not a natural goal scorer.
He makes the hard things look easy and vice versa: gets a chance... falls on his bottom, scuffs a shot, slices a shot...a lot of it is a lack of composure

It's all very frustrating cos we are one of the form teams; could well go down having a record of only 1/2 defeats in last 15 games; are no better or worse than almost all L2 teams

It is one of  the worst L2s I can recall in terms of quality - I guess that shows how poor we have been

Hope that PH stays but that he adopts a much more attacking mindset for next season - and he can find the new Amond/Bogle combo - but I doubt this leopard will change its spots
More 1-0 leads and anxious last 15/20 mins

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I am a Hurst fan - always have been
But that doesn't mean to say he should not be criticised
Like players at L2 level - who have limitations - so do managers (if not, they'd all be PL bosses)

Hurst's great strength is team bonding, a team that gives 100%, a team that plays for the badge, is well drilled and organised and very hard to beat; I would be staggered if we got thrashed in remaining games

But what we gain there we lose on the 'attacking' front; yesterday was a perfect example of how we were unable to go for the throat (not all PH's fault)

But he should have freshened up the attack after 60mins at latest

Payne, Lamy off and Green, Williams on
Then Spokes for Coke at 65/70 mins (more for fresh legs than anything)

We never seem to be able to get that killer second goal - and part of that is too happy to sit back and take it a minute at a time running clock down.
PH could/should be on touchline waving them forward - not reckless but trying really hard to get that second.
We are too happy to let things drift into a boring stalemate

We were never in any real danger but at 1-0 you are always vulnerable

I just wish PH was a little more adventurous with his mindset - but having said that 90% why we lose leads is a lack of ruthlessness at both ends (mainly up top)
Lenny - 100% honest, has made it much harder for defences, always a handful, gets chances... but not a natural goal scorer.
He makes the hard things look easy and vice versa: gets a chance... falls on his bottom, scuffs a shot, slices a shot...a lot of it is a lack of composure

It's all very frustrating cos we are one of the form teams; could well go down having a record of only 1/2 defeats in last 15 games; are no better or worse than almost all L2 teams

It is one of  the worst L2s I can recall in terms of quality - I guess that shows how poor we have been

Hope that PH stays but that he adopts a much more attacking mindset for next season - and he can find the new Amond/Bogle combo - but I doubt this leopard will change its spots
More 1-0 leads and anxious last 15/20 mins



A lot if not all of this I agree with but just check out the results we had when we came up, there where more 3 goals or more wins than 1-0’s.


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A lot if not all of this I agree with but just check out the results we had when we came up, there where more 3 goals or more wins than 1-0’s.


Fair point Herts - and Macca said yesterday it's not really a managerial mindset but more a case perhaps of lack of confidence on the pitch
The whole thing is bloody annoying cos he has a team now that may lack a little quality (most L2 teams are like that) but is very hard to beat
Comes back to a natural goal scorer - no coincidence that Quigley's goals are going a long way to getting Barrow out of the mire
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If he could finish regularly he wouldn’t be here, what he does bring is a competitive nature up top and never say die attitude that had been completely lacking all season.

I never wanted Hurst back and was uninspired by him signing LJL however these past 2 months have changed my opinion of both totally. Hurst shopping in the A&E wards , non league and the dole queue has managed to cobble together a team that is in play off position in form table , very hard to beat and fine margins from winning most of the 7 games unbeaten. Those reasons alone should inspire confidence that he will get us back on track given a normal transfer window , summer and preseason regardless of which league we will operate in.


We had a previous manager who signed old men, misfits and non league players and turned them into a team. Most of us think there should be a statue of him at BP!


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Fair point Herts - and Macca said yesterday it's not really a managerial mindset but more a case perhaps of lack of confidence on the pitch
The whole thing is bloody annoying cos he has a team now that may lack a little quality (most L2 teams are like that) but is very hard to beat
Comes back to a natural goal scorer - no coincidence that Quigley's goals are going a long way to getting Barrow out of the mire


Agree 100%


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I listened to Hursts' post-match interview with JT on ifollow and thought something wasn't right at the end. It seemed to finish abruptly like the pre-match interview on Ifollow.

I just listened to it again on RH just now and the broadcast was stopped microseconds after Hurst said 'to'. The 'o' only just came out of his mouth before the interview ended. Both interviews were not natural endings and to me were censored.

It was as if the Town management didn't want anything mentioned about the takeover. I also listened to Hurst's first interview in which, in Hurst fashion, he confirms that he didn't ask for the job, Town wanted him.

You do have to consider that if Fenty is in any way involved in the running of the club for next season that we will need a new manager. As others have posted all Hursts' comments about next season have all been about the consortium so would/will he walk if the takeover goes belly up.


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As DB has posted above. I do think Hurst will walk if the takeover doesn't go through, there is no secret at all he doesn't like Fenty and I doubt he would have agreed to come back to work under Fenty again when he had a dig at him when he went to Shrewsbury.
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Can't see Hurst walking myself.

Hurst is only a few weeks into an 18 month contract isn't he so why would he walk, he's got job security in difficult times.

Let's be honest, Hurst's stock isn't exactly high at the moment is it after what happened at Ipswich and Scunthorpe and although he has steadied the ship here we are in a worse position now than when he took the job.



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To me he just said he hoped it goes through so the speculation is over as it is unsettling for the staff , not the players, but the staff . He even said its  so he can plan ahead.
It didnt scream if it doesnt go ahead I am walking, more like please just get it done so I know where I am.

He may think is position is untenable if it doesnt go through but there wasnt an obvious ultimatum in that interview.


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I listened to it but didn’t pick that up, what did he say? What did I miss?


It wasn't especially anything specific he said, more the way he spoke and the body language. I understand the argument he is in a contract and secure (not likely to get sacked), but I don't think he is the type of person who will work for someone he doesn't appear to like and respect. And I would not blame him. I may be wrong, he may stay, he may have made up with Fenty. It is just a feeling I have.
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It wasn't especially anything specific he said, more the way he spoke and the body language. I understand the argument he is in a contract and secure (not likely to get sacked), but I don't think he is the type of person who will work for someone he doesn't appear to like and respect. And I would not blame him. I may be wrong, he may stay, he may have made up with Fenty. It is just a feeling I have.


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I listened to Hursts' post-match interview with JT on ifollow and thought something wasn't right at the end. It seemed to finish abruptly like the pre-match interview on Ifollow.

I just listened to it again on RH just now and the broadcast was stopped microseconds after Hurst said 'to'. The 'o' only just came out of his mouth before the interview ended. Both interviews were not natural endings and to me were censored.

It was as if the Town management didn't want anything mentioned about the takeover. I also listened to Hurst's first interview in which, in Hurst fashion, he confirms that he didn't ask for the job, Town wanted him.

You do have to consider that if Fenty is in any way involved in the running of the club for next season that we will need a new manager. As others have posted all Hursts' comments about next season have all been about the consortium so would/will he walk if the takeover goes belly up.


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Just as an aside if Hurst does quit if Fenty stays...

Can someone inform deputy Doig Hurst has gone please  


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I listened to Hursts' post-match interview with JT on ifollow and thought something wasn't right at the end. It seemed to finish abruptly like the pre-match interview on Ifollow.

I just listened to it again on RH just now and the broadcast was stopped microseconds after Hurst said 'to'. The 'o' only just came out of his mouth before the interview ended. Both interviews were not natural endings and to me were censored.

It was as if the Town management didn't want anything mentioned about the takeover. I also listened to Hurst's first interview in which, in Hurst fashion, he confirms that he didn't ask for the job, Town wanted him.

You do have to consider that if Fenty is in any way involved in the running of the club for next season that we will need a new manager. As others have posted all Hursts' comments about next season have all been about the consortium so would/will he walk if the takeover goes belly up.


No conspiracy. I've noticed interviews cutting out abruptly for months probably just poor editing.
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