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forza ivano
March 21, 2021, 12:25pm

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bit surprised that hasn't been much comment on the Hurst interview with Matt Dean, which in many ways, was more interesting than the excellent chat with Ira.
Said that under Holloway's regime Ira had been used as a centre forward, but it was only after talking to Ira that Hurst found out that he preferred to play out wide.
There was a lot of coded criticism of Fenty's penny pinching, and it was obvious that Hurst is excited by the new approach the consortium will bring , and the improvements they will be able to make.
I would be very surprised given Stockwood's supportive tweets and the discussions they're obviously having, that Hurst won't be in charge next year. Particularly  that they will soon be concluding talks on next season's budget.
Seems evident that there will be much more support given for playing staff, support staff and facilities.
I got the distinct impression that we must be amongst the worst teams in the league in terms of training facilities and back up staff
There was absolutely no comment about Hurst having any involvement with Fenty and/or Day , just with the Holy Trinity, and indeed it was because of the consortium that Hurst had decided to return ( a subtle insight into his relationship with Fenty methinks).
Did make me think that this must've been an added difficulty for Hurst in that he's working in a vacuum; the old regime are still in charge, but have no power, but the new boys who he seems to be in a regular contact with, have the plans and the money, but no power

As I said I accepted relegation a couple of months ago, it's only interviews like this and the potential of the new Consortium that gives me hope that 'it doesn't have to be like this' and we actually have quite a bright future
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bit surprised that hasn't been much comment on the Hurst interview with Matt Dean, which in many ways, was more interesting than the excellent chat with Ira.
Said that under Holloway's regime Ira had been used as a centre forward, but it was only after talking to Ira that Hurst found out that he preferred to play out wide.
There was a lot of coded criticism of Fenty's oenny pinching, and it was obvious that Hurst is excited by the new approach the consortium will bring , and the improvements they will be able to make.
I would be very surprised given Stockwood's tweets in support and the discussions they're obviously having, that Hurst won't be in charge next year. Particulalry  that they will soon be concluding talks on next season's budget.
Seems evident that there will be much more support given for playing staff, support staff and facilities.
I go the distinct impression that we must be amongst the worst teams in the league in terms of training facilities and back up staff
There was absolutely no comment about Hurst having any involvement with Fenty and/or Day , just with the Holy Trinity, and indeed it was because of the consortium that Hurst had decided to return ( a subtle insight into his relationship with Fenty methinks).
Did make me think that this must've been an added difficulty for Hurst in that he's working in a vacuum; the old regime are still in charge, but have no power, but the new boys who he seems to be in a reular contact with, have the plans and the money, but no power

As i said i accepted relegation a couple of months ago, it's only interviews like this and the potential of the new Consortium that gives me hope that 'it doesn't have to be like this' and we actually have quite a bright future


I agree with you. I too have accepted relegation (though hope hasn't totally died entirely and I still dream of a magical winning run....) but the thing which keeps me going is the optimism I have concerning the new owners. They are simply a different caliber of individual to Fenty and in many ways living in a different century.

They are not buying the club to see it rot away, I think we are going to have several exciting seasons ahead, slugging it out at the top end of whichever division we are in.

Call me crazy, but I see no reason why we can't do what Lincoln have, i.e. get into the L1 play off zone.  I could see us doing that in our new stadium within five years. (Ok, maybe just a little crazy.....)
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Good post Forza, that’s my line of thinking too although you put it so much better than I could.


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Encouraging as well that the Trust reported recently that the new owners want to work closely with them (the Trust).  
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I agree with you. I too have accepted relegation (though hope hasn't totally died entirely and I still dream of a magical winning run....) but the thing which keeps me going is the optimism I have concerning the new owners. They are simply a different caliber of individual to Fenty and in many ways living in a different century.

They are not buying the club to see it rot away, I think we are going to have several exciting seasons ahead, slugging it out at the top end of whichever division we are in.

Call me crazy, but I see no reason why we can't do what Lincoln have, i.e. get into the L1 play off zone.  I could see us doing that in our new stadium within five years. (Ok, maybe just a little crazy.....)


Why not? In 5 years, is it unrealistic to have a new stadium, excellent training facilities and a club at the right end of League 1?


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bit surprised that hasn't been much comment on the Hurst interview with Matt Dean, which in many ways, was more interesting than the excellent chat with Ira.
Said that under Holloway's regime Ira had been used as a centre forward, but it was only after talking to Ira that Hurst found out that he preferred to play out wide.
There was a lot of coded criticism of Fenty's penny pinching, and it was obvious that Hurst is excited by the new approach the consortium will bring , and the improvements they will be able to make.
I would be very surprised given Stockwood's supportive tweets and the discussions they're obviously having, that Hurst won't be in charge next year. Particularly  that they will soon be concluding talks on next season's budget.
Seems evident that there will be much more support given for playing staff, support staff and facilities.
I got the distinct impression that we must be amongst the worst teams in the league in terms of training facilities and back up staff
There was absolutely no comment about Hurst having any involvement with Fenty and/or Day , just with the Holy Trinity, and indeed it was because of the consortium that Hurst had decided to return ( a subtle insight into his relationship with Fenty methinks).
Did make me think that this must've been an added difficulty for Hurst in that he's working in a vacuum; the old regime are still in charge, but have no power, but the new boys who he seems to be in a regular contact with, have the plans and the money, but no power

As I said I accepted relegation a couple of months ago, it's only interviews like this and the potential of the new Consortium that gives me hope that 'it doesn't have to be like this' and we actually have quite a bright future


Great post Forza.

My understanding (from someone in the know) is that the budgets that Hurst had to work with in the Conference were a lot lower than most people would expect.

With new ownership that will invest in our infrastructure and give proper attention to those needs, we may be in a position to bounce back quicker than last time.


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Agree Forza
I wrote something yesterday that was basically a short summary of what you have now written
Not that I am accusing you of plagiarism!
Just agreeing with your more expansive summing up

Whoever is in charge - and it will be Hurst - has a far better chance of succeeding

We will be dragged into the the 2020s from the 1970s!
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I think the fact that PH is on a 2.5 year contract and not the rolling 6 months tells us all we need to know. I truly hope these guys want to engage the supporters and build a football club at the heart of a community.
Not entirely convinced PH is the man to help deliver that but with the right leadership who knows, and with the right financial support I think we'll be out of the cesspit much quicker this time.
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So Hurst is the man for the consortium and like it or not I have to accept it whether I agree or not. They will be in charge in a few days (I hope) and it is their money so time will tell. I just hope that he has a budget to get the right players in and get us up from the NL.

I can't see any reason why, as someone posted, we can't be in L1 in 5 years with a new stadium and updated training facilities. The poistive thing about being rock bottom is the only way is up.


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Be interesting to see how the new owners respond to criticism if we aren’t challenging for the title next year under hurst. Luton dismissed every manager when promotion wasn’t achieved every season in non league and I’m pretty sure they spent less time down there than us, totally against the model we ran with.
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