Hurst and the consortium

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Be interesting to see how the new owners respond to criticism if we aren’t challenging for the title next year under hurst. Luton dismissed every manager when promotion wasn’t achieved every season in non league and I’m pretty sure they spent less time down there than us, totally against the model we ran with.

One season less than us. Went down the season before us but came back two seasons before us. But for one poor refereeing decision we might have been down there one season less.

They had significantly bigger crowds than us throughout too, so presumably bigger budgets.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

One season less than us. Went down the season before us but came back two seasons before us. But for one poor refereeing decision we might have been down there one season less.

They had significantly bigger crowds than us throughout too, so presumably bigger budgets.

And look at them now

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

And look at them now

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

We’re on our sixth permanent manager since promotion. They have had the same manager for five years and have bigger crowds than us.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

We’re on our sixth permanent manager since promotion. They have had the same manager for five years and have bigger crowds than us.

So what you saying hurst gets us to a play off next season and fails you would keep him on for another go ? No idea of fish prices btw and if crowds mattered Sunderland would be in the prem and Accrington would be in the north west counties league

Quoted from KingstonMariner

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

We’re on our sixth permanent manager since promotion. They have had the same manager for five years and have bigger crowds than us.

No they haven’t. He went to Stoke, got sacked and came back.

At the end of the day ,if/when we go down i certainly dont expect us to come straight back , surely our memories arent that short ?  Plenty of chatter last time about Pub teams, dog and duck , part time players etc etc  and it took us ages and some luck to eventually escape.

Why would anyone think we are just going to come straight back ? Also given that the promotion system has completely changed now, more opportunity to make the play offs but extra games involved.

Also have Wrexham been officially taken over yet ?  They could have some siginficant backing and again plenty of other former league clubs in there and probably more full time clubs now.

Some of the backroom changes, infrastructure changes that could take place wont be overnight or bring instant success.

And finally, Hurst.....still i only see the manager who doesnt want to lose and see's drawing as ok , even now drawing doesnt seem to be a disaster to him and he even said post match Saturday regards Tuesday , although he doesnt like the phrase he reluctantly would accept its a "must win game".
Its why we never threatened to take the title under him, he never could see that in a three points for a win system a point just sometimes isnt enough....remaining unbeaten always seemed to be his focus.

Quoted from moosey_club

At the end of the day ,if/when we go down i certainly dont expect us to come straight back , surely our memories arent that short ?  Plenty of chatter last time about Pub teams, dog and duck , part time players etc etc  and it took us ages and some luck to eventually escape.

Why would anyone think we are just going to come straight back ? Also given that the promotion system has completely changed now, more opportunity to make the play offs but extra games involved.

Also have Wrexham been officially taken over yet ?  They could have some siginficant backing and again plenty of other former league clubs in there and probably more full time clubs now.

Some of the backroom changes, infrastructure changes that could take place wont be overnight or bring instant success.

And finally, Hurst.....still i only see the manager who doesnt want to lose and see's drawing as ok , even now drawing doesnt seem to be a disaster to him and he even said post match Saturday regards Tuesday , although he doesnt like the phrase he reluctantly would accept its a "must win game".
Its why we never threatened to take the title under him, he never could see that in a three points for a win system a point just sometimes isnt enough....remaining unbeaten always seemed to be his focus.

The qualifying teams don't actually play more games as there are no home and away ties. The second and third finishing  teams play a one off home game against the winners of the 7th and 4th teams and the 6th and 5th teams.

Quoted from arryarryarry

The qualifying teams don't actually play more games as there are no home and away ties. The second and third finishing  teams play a one off home game against the winners of the 7th and 4th teams and the 6th and 5th teams.

At least interest should be retained right until the last few weeks. Assuming we are in and around the top 10. God help us if we aren't!!!!

Quoted from moosey_club

At the end of the day ,if/when we go down i certainly dont expect us to come straight back , surely our memories arent that short ?  Plenty of chatter last time about Pub teams, dog and duck , part time players etc etc  and it took us ages and some luck to eventually escape.

Why would anyone think we are just going to come straight back ? Also given that the promotion system has completely changed now, more opportunity to make the play offs but extra games involved.

Also have Wrexham been officially taken over yet ?  They could have some siginficant backing andplenty of other fo again rmer league clubs in there and probably more full time clubs now.

Some of the backroom changes, infrastructure changes that could take place wont be overnight or bring instant success.

And finally, Hurst.....still i only see the manager who doesnt want to lose and see's drawing as ok , even now drawing doesnt seem to be a disaster to him and he even said post match Saturday regards Tuesday , although he doesnt like the phrase he reluctantly would accept its a "must win game".
Its why we never threatened to take the title under him, he never could see that in a three points for a win system a point just sometimes isnt enough....remaining unbeaten always seemed to be his focus.

had a look at our last Conference table and there's still about the same number of ex League clubs and i think that there is still the same amount of full time club.Even 6 years ago the vast majority were full time.
As for Wrexham there was always one mega bucks club - Luton, FGR etc
I do wonder whether much will have changed in the 6 years we've been away; there may be slightly better pitches, facilities and some clubs may have better off field support staff, but i haven't seen anything to make me think there's anything radically different.

we however, should be much better prepared. Interesting comment earlier in another thread that the budget wasn't as generous as Fenty made out, and i don't see the consortium being that penny pinching. Also whilst some off field stuff will take time, things like the analyst and strength & conditioning can make improvements pretty quickly (especially as we will have nearly 5 months to prepare!)
the hoped for sale of Dembele in the summer would be a nice problem for the consortium and Hurst to deal with.
Also add in that Hurst and Doig have a lot more experience now plus a number of potential rivals will be financially weakened after the shambles of this National League season and there are reasons to be hopeful

Can I ask why we think the new consortium are going to put more money in? Just asking the question .