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KingstonMariner
February 10, 2021, 11:30am
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(1) new jobs during construction - and it won’t be just the ground as the surrounding area will need infrastructure work
(2) that infrastructure will bring additional benefits for the area the ground is in (on a bigger scale consider what the Minnellium Tent did for the Greenwich Penninsular)  
(3) the ground won’t be built in isolation, and there most likely will be other leisure facilities (gallery in the ice factory?)
(4) taken together, they will be mutually supporting to drive extra footfall in the area. Small artisanal businesses could thrive in what they’re calling ‘the Kasbah’. Especially food and drink producers and eateries.
If done well it could bring extra tourism, so genuinely new money to the area. Think of a mini-version of Liverpool.
Apart from potential economic benefits, if it means an area of the town is rundown and we get better facilities for the football it won’t be a bad thing.


The redevelopment of Liverpool One cost ÂŁ1 Billion. We aren't going to get anywhere near a substantial enough amount to do anything on that scale. The ground itself is probably more than the amount earmarked for a Town like ours in total right now.

We've got the same big problem that we've had since day 1 of a stadium being announced, whoever is running the show wants somebody else to pay for it.
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But Boris said towns like Grimsby won’t be left behind.



Boris says a lot of things, but wearing a Town hat might mean he favours us.


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How about because they want to use government funding to build the stadium, and there isn't any? I doubt it would qualify even if Covid hadn't happened, but the pot is empty now and will be much harder to get anything.

Even Freeman street which costs less and already has land owner and council backing is unlikely in the next 5 years.


As sombody who doesn’t live in Grimsby (and never has) can I just point out what a terrible location the Freeman Street site is.

And whereas the Ice House redevelopment and the necessary infrastructure work (access etc...) would be publicly funded, I haven’t seen one reference to the proposed new stadium at Fish Dock 3 being called a “Community Stadium” or Shutes (or his consortium) saying anything about finance coming from the public purse.

The stadium will be financed via a mortgage. Simple. It will be built to maximise revenue 365 days a year. Anyone who’s been to Chesterfield new ground might have noticed the gym built under one of the stands (generating rent) and PNE’s final new stand has an NHS walk-in centre built into it. Again generating a significant rent.
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The redevelopment of Liverpool One cost ÂŁ1 Billion. We aren't going to get anywhere near a substantial enough amount to do anything on that scale. The ground itself is probably more than the amount earmarked for a Town like ours in total right now.

We've got the same big problem that we've had since day 1 of a stadium being announced, whoever is running the show wants somebody else to pay for it.


this is correct.
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The redevelopment of Liverpool One cost ÂŁ1 Billion. We aren't going to get anywhere near a substantial enough amount to do anything on that scale. The ground itself is probably more than the amount earmarked for a Town like ours in total right now.

We've got the same big problem that we've had since day 1 of a stadium being announced, whoever is running the show wants somebody else to pay for it.


Liverpool One was a purely private development by Grosvenor Estates.

I was talking about the earlier redevelopment around the docks including the Tate. This kick started the rebirth of Liverpool as a destination and helped encourage things like Liverpool One.


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As sombody who doesn’t live in Grimsby (and never has) can I just point out what a terrible location the Freeman Street site is.

And whereas the Ice House redevelopment and the necessary infrastructure work (access etc...) would be publicly funded, I haven’t seen one reference to the proposed new stadium at Fish Dock 3 being called a “Community Stadium” or Shutes (or his consortium) saying anything about finance coming from the public purse.

The stadium will be financed via a mortgage. Simple. It will be built to maximise revenue 365 days a year. Anyone who’s been to Chesterfield new ground might have noticed the gym built under one of the stands (generating rent) and PNE’s final new stand has an NHS walk-in centre built into it. Again generating a significant rent.


A community stadium were the exact words Shutes said in his interview and said they would be pursuing that idea regardless of whether they bought the football club.https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/tom-shutes-reveals-stunning-plan-4110684

Bulding a stadium on the docks is going to cost around ÂŁ40 million. No matter how optimistic you are about a 24/7 income stream, that's a lot of money to borrow and having to pay off. Can't see how any bank could justify that without a huge deposit.
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