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Quoted from Teestogreen

So the owners are now in control of which players they are asking Dave Artell and the new CEO to sign?
Or it wil be as last season.
2 hours and 34 minutes down the M62 probably gets you to Manchester / Liverpool.
Quite a catchment area for potential better players - could follow the Barrow model - and have the training facilities around Manchester?

You are putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5... where on earth did JS say he will be deciding who signs for the club. They set the ethos and strategy of the football club but leave footballing decisions to the men in charge of that i.e DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment. DA has been appointed to carry that out, if he doesn't do that then he loses his job.. like any normal job.

Quoted from Teestogreen

https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2023/may/barrow-announce-new-training-ground/

Also one thing Barrow do is run with a good few less players in their squad and therefore pay a higher average salary. Can’t remember the exact numbers but if we pay an average of £150k they are paying £180k. Quality over quantity and it shows. The gamble of course is injuries but then I guess you have to either suck it up or use the loan market well.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

You are putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5... where on earth did JS say he will be deciding who signs for the club. They set the ethos and strategy of the football club but leave footballing decisions to the men in charge of that i.e DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment. DA has been appointed to carry that out, if he doesn't do that then he loses his job.. like any normal job.

I believe a chairman has every right to ask a manager he's recruiting to try and play in a way that's more attacking and exciting, especially at home.
I think that should be the maximum involvement he should have after that though.

Quoted from Teestogreen

So the owners are now in control of which players they are asking Dave Artell and the new CEO to sign?
Or it wil be as last season.
2 hours and 34 minutes down the M62 probably gets you to Manchester / Liverpool.
Quite a catchment area for potential better players - could follow the Barrow model - and have the training facilities around Manchester?

That's Stockwood's journey back to his Manchester home.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Artell lives away, I think Greater Manchester area.  But he's said that he's ok commuting and staying over because a) the travel gives him time to think and b) his body isn't taking a battering day-in-day-out, he wouldn't expect or want players to be travelling that much.  

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

You are putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5... where on earth did JS say he will be deciding who signs for the club. They set the ethos and strategy of the football club but leave footballing decisions to the men in charge of that i.e DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment. DA has been appointed to carry that out, if he doesn't do that then he loses his job.. like any normal job.

DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment JH recruits, and if it doesn't work DA gets the sack? In the normal world, doesn't quite work that way.

Quoted from GrimPol

DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment JH recruits, and if it doesn't work DA gets the sack? In the normal world, doesn't quite work that way.

I think it’s clear that JH offers up a number of options and then Artell gets to choose. The difference is of these options Hurst just ignored them and went with his own preferences. If you think that JH and DA work in their own little bubbles then you are very much mistaken. You simply could operate that way.

Quoted from GrimPol

DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment JH recruits, and if it doesn't work DA gets the sack? In the normal world, doesn't quite work that way.

True , but these were the terms and conditions  DA agreed to when he took on the job, it's not like Hurst who was already in situ so it was (I assume ) more difficult to get him to adhere to within the strategy they want to implement . He had full accountability and fell on his sword , on his own terms - It's clear it went really badly wrong last summer with his regular methodology but with more money at his disposal.

DA will have the final say on signings , but if It goes wrong with the signings there will be more group accountability than just the manager - whether that's right or wrong is open to  debate but I'm pretty certain that's how it will be .

Quoted from grimps

I believe a chairman has every right to ask a manager he's recruiting to try and play in a way that's more attacking and exciting, especially at home.
I think that should be the maximum involvement he should have after that though.

Tinged with realism.  It's alright recruiting a racehorse trainer and asking him to win The Grand National, but on his budget can only afford Donkeys.

And whilst I'm at it, JH (Head of Recruitment Joe Hutchinson)  was recruited in Nov 2022, hence spanned the 2023-24 season recruitment. So did JH in early 2023 put out a list, that PH ignored, put out his list of players he wanted,  and the CEO/JS signed off?  He then has to back PH, then sack PH shambolically, and writes a sob piece in the Guardian with profound lessons that "if you sack people they become unemployed" (I didn't know that) and now lets it be known that PH didn't listen and went off on his own, which we signed off. Boo Hoo.

What is going on?

Quoted from GrimPol

DA & SP for the first team and JH for recruitment JH recruits, and if it doesn't work DA gets the sack? In the normal world, doesn't quite work that way.

So a head of recruitment is a scout, he will do all the work of a scout but is more advanced in the fact he will oversee recruitment throughout the whole club. They will speak with players, staff and then JS or the new CEO. David Artell still has final say over every single player that signs on the dotted line as like you said, the book stops with him and it's his job on the line but he puts his trust in JH and rightfully so. The man that brought us Conteh in the summer, replaced him with Thompson despite many thinking we wouldn't be able to upgrade on Kam we very much have. Paul Hurst quite clearly trusted his own insticts over JH and has every right to do so but that's not what JS/AP want through the club and the performances quite clearly showed that PH was wrong to go against him hence why he was sacked.