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arryarryarry
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So what do you know about running a football club to be able to give them such sage advice?


Was DB giving advice, I read it as what has happened.
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February 19, 2024, 7:28pm
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I know a few Sunderland fans, they’re still astounded the previous manager was sacked…
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He was given a 2 and a half year contract the same as Dave Artell but Sunderland are obviously a much more wealthy club than we are and that is the only reason we still have Dave Artell as our manager, the owners cannot afford to pay him off if they sack him.


We might be a lot wealthier than you but our owner doesn't like spending his money or ours. I'd assume there were clauses in Beale's contract meaning he might get half a year's pay but not the other two.

Beale should never have been appointed but having been it is ridiculous to judge him on twelve matches. But our owner and Sporting Director have been taking a bit of flak recently so what better than to dump an unpopular head-coach.

David Artell is a very different man in a very different situation.

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Was DB giving advice, I read it as what has happened.


Exactly. DB is not childish nor does he suggest that writing in The Guardian is a 'problem'. There is an issue, however, in that JS has sometimes conflated comments on The Fishy as 'social media'. It is much more structured and wide ranging than 'X', Facebook or podcasts. The owner's tweet does not speak to me or many other older fans.

Try not to be so easily triggered by a sentence that had the name of your favourite newspaper Vance.

Carry on with your contributions DB!
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February 19, 2024, 9:12pm
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Exactly. DB is not childish nor does he suggest that writing in The Guardian is a 'problem'. There is an issue, however, in that JS has sometimes conflated comments on The Fishy as 'social media'. It is much more structured and wide ranging than 'X', Facebook or podcasts. The owner's tweet does not speak to me or many other older fans.

Try not to be so easily triggered by a sentence that had the name of your favourite newspaper Vance.

Carry on with your contributions DB!


If writing in the Guardian is not being portrayed as a problem why is it being raised in a thread about Sunderland sacking their manager?

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If writing in the Guardian is not being portrayed as a problem why is it being raised in a thread about Sunderland sacking their manager?



I dont care if he writes for the The Guardian, Times, Mail on Sunday or the sodding Dandy and Beano, the fact he is writing articles in the press as Chairman of the football club comes across as a Vanity Project.
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I dont care if he writes for the The Guardian, Times, Mail on Sunday or the sodding Dandy and Beano, the fact he is writing articles in the press as Chairman of the football club comes across as a Vanity Project.


If I were a Guardian reading supporter of another EFL club, I’d be wondering why the chairman of the club placed 90th in the league was getting so much airtime, as it were.
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I dont care if he writes for the The Guardian, Times, Mail on Sunday or the sodding Dandy and Beano, the fact he is writing articles in the press as Chairman of the football club comes across as a Vanity Project.


If he wrote in the Dandy I'd read it.
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I dont care if he writes for the The Guardian, Times, Mail on Sunday or the sodding Dandy and Beano, the fact he is writing articles in the press as Chairman of the football club comes across as a Vanity Project.


Maybe it is a vanity project but so what? The last time I heard vanity project mentioned in relation to a GTFC chairman we were talking about pie in the sky stadiums which cost us a fortune in feasibility studies. At worst this is harmless and at best it is giving the club extra publicity. Fair enough to criticise JS for a managerial appointment but complaining about him writing for the Guardian comes  across as petty when there are much bigger issues at stake.
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Maybe it is a vanity project but so what? The last time I heard vanity project mentioned in relation to a GTFC chairman we were talking about pie in the sky stadiums which cost us a fortune in feasibility studies. At worst this is harmless and at best it is giving the club extra publicity. Fair enough to criticise JS for a managerial appointment but complaining about him writing for the Guardian comes  across as petty when there are much bigger issues at stake.


The counter argument to that is that if there’s much bigger issues at stake, why is he writing articles for the Guardian? Totally depends on your opinion and it’s all good when things are going great - which to a certain extent they have.
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