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Hurst was a safe pair of hands. Never won automatic promotion anywhere. Solid and safe, unlikely to get relegated with him. Artell could go either way, but I don't expect a succession of midtable finishes. Next game is a free hit.
Paul Hurst was in charge for 16 league games this season, Dave Artell for 10 league games currently, lets see if we have improved come 16 games. Also it will be interesting to see our results from this current Saturday with the new players and the following 15 games, which will bring us virtually to the end of the season.  |
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| MuddyWaters |
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Far, far too early to judge DA. I’m sure he’ll take us on a more ‘interesting’ journey.
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Eh? We were relegated with him in charge and he had half a season to prevent it, and a complete overhaul of the playing squad which his MO.
I don't think anyone could have kept us up that season from the position IH left us in. I don't think a PH side has ever been relegated where he has had a whole season in charge (he probably would have done at Ipswich though). He's reached the play-offs at most of his clubs (five times with us) but never got automatic promotion. He has a risk-averse approach, one of the reasons he doesn't get sacked much. Artell has only had one job so there's not much data to go on, my gut feeling is he's a boom-or-bust sort of guy - he'll either be sacked in six months or we'll be spectacularly successful. |
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Paul Hurst was in charge for 16 league games this season, Dave Artell for 10 league games currently, lets see if we have improved come 16 games. Also it will be interesting to see our results from this current Saturday with the new players and the following 15 games, which will bring us virtually to the end of the season. 
Those percentage figures aren't accurate are they? If Artell has won 2 out of 10, how is that 18%? 5 losses out of 10 should be 50% surely? |
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Forgot to add that there are positives from playing out from the back but sometimes it is so obvious that it isn't the right time to do it, but we still try, which can be very fustrating. Hopefully the players are allowed to, and capable of, working it out.
When somebody who is bearing down on the player you are passing to for example. Sometimes, a god old fashioned lump is better. Felt the new RB made the right decisions here. He played it around when he could but got rid when under pressure. |
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Most of the DA critics seem to be fans who either didn't want him or seem frightened of having a progressive modern manager. They might not like his style or approach. I still remember when AB MK1 became manager and there was so much criticism from the fans. He was a non-league manager who signed non-league players ( Keith Alexander, Andy Tilson , John Cockrill) and was preparing the club for non- league football. How wrong they were!!! I think DA is in a similar position in as much as he has a vision of how we should play his style of football and will get in the players who can do that. We also have owners who believe in that and want a club to be self- sufficient and not dependent on a rich benefactor to constantly prop them club up. As DA said when he joined them club " It's an evolution, not a revolution".
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Yeah you are right, I'm glad someone is on the ball. I had an extra draw in the Dave Artell pie chart even though the legend says 3. Fixed it now, can't believe I didn't see that lol. 
Can you check the data our recruitment officer had on Mullarkey while you are at it. |
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Forgot to add that there are positives from playing out from the back but sometimes it is so obvious that it isn't the right time to do it, but we still try, which can be very frustrating. Hopefully the players are allowed to, and capable of, working it out.
Indeed, quite simply if the short pass isn't on, or looks too iffy, hoof it. A coach I played under said, "if you're in trouble in the penalty box, hit it long and wide". |
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just avoid relegation & i'll be content this yr but next yr we must challenge a top 10 finish , i look at barrow harrogate etc fighting for promotion & play off spot , no way should we settle for some of the crap served up this yr when teams like that with smaller budgets smaller crowds can progress
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I don't think anyone could have kept us up that season from the position IH left us in. I don't think a PH side has ever been relegated where he has had a whole season in charge (he probably would have done at Ipswich though). He's reached the play-offs at most of his clubs (five times with us) but never got automatic promotion. He has a risk-averse approach, one of the reasons he doesn't get sacked much. Artell has only had one job so there's not much data to go on, my gut feeling is he's a boom-or-bust sort of guy - he'll either be sacked in six months or we'll be spectacularly successful.
Hurst has been sacked by GTFC, Scunthorpe and Ipswich.and only not sacked by Shrewsbury (yet). All managers get sacked so I have no issue with that but personally I much prefer a manager who will get the team playing possession based attacking football, who has a philosophy that extends right through the club, will have faith in and improve young players and will not release players the minute they don't track back. You also have to consider the paying fan. Months on end we've had to endure absolute dirge on the field with hardly any attacking intent. He deserves the credit for the play off successes and the cup run and no one can take that away, but we couldn't go on as we were. |
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