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diehardmariner
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And there we have it, why do you think he got selected once in a blue moon?



The guy who only selected him once in a blue moon was sacked for failing to win enough games.  I'm not sure that really backs up your argument.
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The guy who only selected him once in a blue moon was sacked for failing to win enough games.  I'm not sure that really backs up your argument.


Oh. so the reason we lost all those games was because PH didn't play Hunt...............right!

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Oh. so the reason we lost all those games was because PH didn't play Hunt...............right!



Classic ‘straw man’.

Ask yourself this mate…….looking at all of diehard’s posts - do you really think he’s saying that? Honestly? Look at the detail and the balance of his views. I don’t believe you could really conclude that. I think you just seem to need to antagonise.


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Classic ‘straw man’.

Ask yourself this mate…….looking at all of diehard’s posts - do you really think he’s saying that? Honestly? Look at the detail and the balance of his views. I don’t believe you could really conclude that. I think you just seem to need to antagonise.


Totally agree he's a WUM and a poor one at that.
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Oh. so the reason we lost all those games was because PH didn't play Hunt...............right!



We lost those games due to poor management decisions overall, and not playing Hunt is in that mix.
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November 16, 2023, 9:30am
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Classic ‘straw man’.

Ask yourself this mate…….looking at all of diehard’s posts - do you really think he’s saying that? Honestly? Look at the detail and the balance of his views. I don’t believe you could really conclude that. I think you just seem to need to antagonise.


That IS what he said, whichever way you want to put it.  And no, I don't want to antagonize, I want to make factual statements wherever I can, especially when people make generalised posts with no factual input, but a lot of speculation.  This is a forum right, where you can post your opinions and debate with others?

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November 16, 2023, 9:32am
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Totally agree he's a WUM and a poor one at that.


Haha, you are so far wrong, quote me where I wind up people, and that doesn't mean posts where I disagree with what people say, that is called having an opinion.

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November 16, 2023, 9:35am
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We lost those games due to poor management decisions overall, and not playing Hunt is in that mix.


That's your opinion.  My opinion is that for whatever reason, PH didn't select Hunt, which as Manager was his choice.  We don't know what Hunt was like in training, what his attitude was to being dropped etc.

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That IS what he said, whichever way you want to put it.  And no, I don't want to antagonize, I want to make factual statements wherever I can, especially when people make generalised posts with no factual input, but a lot of speculation.  This is a forum right, where you can post your opinions and debate with others?



Except he didn’t say that. Its not the sort of sentiment he, or any other rational poster would make. You put two and two together and deliberately misrepresented his actual view, or, presented it in its most extreme interpretation. And you did that in order to make an obtuse, wrong point, or to illicit an argumentative dynamic. That’s what a straw man argument is. I repeat - do you actually want us to take your ‘opinion’ of his factual comment seriously knowing that nobody would credibly claim that Hurst was sacked because he chose not to select Hunt? I either don’t believe you, or find that conclusion, if it is a real one for you, to be incredulous. Diehard is about the least likely contributor to post something as crass. You, however, do have form in exactly this kind of area - usually seeing you retreat to a bogus victim/I’m entitled to my opinion position.

Facts are - Hurst didn’t select Hunt very often. He also did/didn’t select lots of other players and often it didn’t work out well. When Hunt did play I think everyone felt he didn’t do enough to justify a change of those decisions and didn’t play to the standards he had previously shown. Giving him a run of games might have seen him put that right; we’ll never know.If anyone has said ‘Hurst was sacked and results were poor because he didn’t play Hunt enough’, maybe you can point at that.


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