Something to bear in mind

Quoted from ginnywings

On the flip side, Stevenage (spit) are doing remarkably well, and won again on Saturday, away from home 3-0.

Boils my p1ss.

So would you have been happy if we had appointed Steve Evans as Town manager?

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I'm - at present - one of the very ardent supporters of PH. Not out of blind loyalty or senseless faith, but based on a learning of his approach and although it can be frustrating, patience often wins where he is concerned and I'm willing to be patient.

In 3 years, if we're still in the same position then I think it would be wholly acceptable to look at a change of stewardship. I think three years of mid-table wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen to us, the constant whinging from sections of the fan base would be more painful. But three years would also be a suitable time-frame to say that the incremental improvements aren't adding up year on year to take us the step further we'd all like to go and that a fresh set of ideas might be required. A more nuanced question would be what would happen if we finished 11th last season, 9th this one, 8th next one and 6th the year after and failed in the PO final. That's steady development into the play-offs, do you stick with the idea that the trajectory suggests you'd make the grade the following season or do you say it hasn't worked and we don't trust you'll see us over the line. Is that level of patience too much to ask of the wider fan base?

Great post and right there with you.

It's weird how people think changing manager works. It fails as much as it works. You look at the likes of Chelsea, and Watford. Absolute disaster. Forest stuck with their manager and he turned it around, even after a bad run of form. You either hold the players or manager to account. Sacking often fails more, and new managers often want wholesale changes and financial it nobbles the club.

Paul Hurst has a lot of positive traits and also kept Shrewsbury in League 1, we might need that if we sneak up.

I've never feared Paul Hurst will take us down. Not with his squad. I do think he'll finish higher than last year, but wouldn't bemoan if it was midtable with a more possession based style of play that he's working on. Building on that platform could be useful and if hopefully Wrexham have gone up and are no longer a problem for us, it could be helpful. I do believe once he gets people fit he'll be able to get us on a bit of a run. He's always willing to hold players to account and drop them when they aren't performing, and when we get that competition back in the forward line (Wilson, Rose, and later Vernan), I think we're going to see some real improvements in form. The next game for us isn't going to be great, but after that, it's a real opportunity to start putting wins on the board. If we can keep people fit, I really feel we'll be getting closer to the play-off places.

I really want to see is in League 1 and keep there, and I think sticking with Hurst is the most likely option that will lead to that in 3-5 years. Once we're there. Another 3 years and give it a crack at trying to get into the Championship. Progress in football is really slow, and most people don't seem to get that. Took Luton 4 years to get out of League 2. I fear for any knee jerk reaction and listening to fans, things going to pot, new managers blaming the fact they don't have their squad, languishing near the relegation spots again. I do not want to see the conference again, and that is why I am firmly in the Hurst in squad.

The other thing I don't like is this nonsense about players being broken because they had long-term injuries. Many just need time and faith to get some strength back in their legs and many of them have bags of talent that if fit would have been higher up. If you cannot afford top fit players, you buy in youngsters you can turn into them, or players who have talent that need someone to give them a chance to get back to fitness. It is a gamble, but can pay off. Someone commented Eisa only had 20 games over x seasons. Yeah, but he's had 8 for us now, and I don't see why he cannot continue that. His legs haven't shattered yet.

Quoted from kafunanapar140909

What I would say is that it feels like this year we’ve seen a bit of departure from the default – we’re more possession-based and generally play quite high up the pitch. I assume this has been a conscious decision by the management on our style of play (maybe even in response to last season). You can’t expect to implement a new style and have us playing a flawless passing game combined with thousands of goals from the get-go.

This is a really good point.  It's not easy to accept but we're probably a team in transition.  The lack of patience in me probably struggles with that more than it should.  Very happy if we're developing a style and a philosophy to our play that will serve us for a sustained period of time.

Any talk of Hurst out or relegation battles at this stage of the season is ridiculous, regardless of how disappointing the last few games were.

When building a team you build from the back. For the first time in a while we have players on 3 year contracts so unless we get promoted next summer becomes an easier window with less players needed.
And let's not forget a left back we wanted went to league 1, a striker or 2 we wanted went to league 1, so it shows the quality we're trying to bring in.
We have improved, we have a better squad than last year and I believe we will keep improving bit by bit.
Keep the faith
UTM

[quote=141016]When building a team you build from the back. For the first time in a while we have players on 3 year contracts so unless we get promoted next summer becomes an easier window with less players needed.
And let's not forget a left back we wanted went to league 1, a striker or 2 we wanted went to league 1, so it shows the quality we're trying to bring in.
We have improved, we have a better squad than last year and I believe we will keep improving bit by bit.
Keep the faith
UTM[/quote
Indeed  keep the faith!!!
If PH goes what Muppet could come in take over,and we have had some.
UTM

I don’t think we have too much below par; the glaring one for me being in both full back positions, although there’s not too much wrong with Amos. This and lacking another effective wide player doing the business. Rose and Eisa are excellent, our centre backs are good and our central midfielders are equally convincing.
Everything else is coachable/fixable with tactical/selection changes and signings. It’s not as if we are half a team way short. We should persevere and stick together.

Quoted from Marinerdan

It feels like teams are always in great form when we play them. We've only played 9 games and we've managed to play 5 of the top 7, with number 6 coming next week!

The way are playing all our opponents will be above us.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Again something to bear in mind Hurst is one of two Manager's to take us out the football league

If he’d had the full season and a chairman who didn’t sanction his predecessor signing amateur strikers from the welsh league, he’d have kept us up.

This thread needs merging with the All who think Hurst should go thread