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| September 29, 2023, 8:58am |
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Like I said I didn't see much but decided to have a look at the squad assembled by Holloway or players that were already here at the start of 20/21 season
Jake Eastwood is ironically back here (assuming he was backup)
Luke Hendrie - has had a steady career
Luke Waterfall- done well here after that season
Eliott Hewitt - done well at Mansfield - long term injuries
Pollock & Idehen - both at teams in the Champ and doing well
Clifton- still here done well
Matete- good player at league 1 level now
El mizouni - leyton orients star player
Joe starbuck- signed a contract with Tranmere
Tilley - doing well at Wimbledon
Terry Taylor - a big move after no great reviews here
Green & Hanson up top probably past there best but still ok on their day .
I have cherry picked
There are double figures in that squad who didn't progress but my point is surely we had enough 'in the building ' to stay up so I think Hurst must take some responsibility for the relegation .
As on paper a lot of these have gone on to be very decent players some even at a higher level .
Eastwood, Matete and El Mizouni were signed by Hurst. Hewitt was transformed by Hurst and actually started playing really well alongside Menayese. Waterfall had had his confidence completely shot by Holloway and was having an awful season, not anyone's fault other than Holloway and to both Hurst's and Waterfall's credit they turned it round amazingly the next season. Tilley looked like a young lad miles away from home during a pandemic, wasn't pulling up trees and was probably better for him to move back south. Hendrie's form had fallen away quite significantly that season but he is a decent player. Starbuck is a totally bizarre one to include as he was 18 at the time and has not played higher than the NLN since then. Terry Taylor looked terrible whilst but has gone on to do very well elsewhere. Green and Hanson were shite. So that basically leaves Clifton and Pollock who were players already here who weren't in bad form. |
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| diehardmariner |
| September 29, 2023, 9:20am |
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I was more angry with Hanson. He scored a handful very early in the season and then was constantly injured. I thought he was taking the p*ss, putting the money in the bank and doing nothing. I never said Green wasn`t sh*t 
Hanson had a miraculous recovery from injury when Hurst took post. Didn't play a minute in November, December and the first two games of January. Yet after missing the first two games under Hurst, then went onto play 18 of the next 19, starting and lasting the full game of many of them. I'm sure it's just a coincidence though. |
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| BobbyCummingsTackle |
| September 29, 2023, 9:30am |
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Hanson had a miraculous recovery from injury when Hurst took post.
Didn't play a minute in November, December and the first two games of January. Yet after missing the first two games under Hurst, then went onto play 18 of the next 19, starting and lasting the full game of many of them.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.
I don't remember that but it almost proves my point! I remember seeing Green play somewhere (in an away match) and you could see he was trying but Hanson was just.... |
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| Abdul19 |
| September 29, 2023, 10:47am |
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Fwiw Hurst did manage a 7 wins out of 8 run in 14/15 from 21st February to 6th April. Closest we came to winning the league that year but we’d have had to win 12 out of our last 13 games 
Yeah paid the price for a god awful start (dropping points at home to Nuneaton, Dover, Altrincham and a Brodie-inspired Southport (with David Raya in nets)). |
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| Maringer |
| September 29, 2023, 12:22pm |
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Green certainly tried, but he just didn't achieve anything. Not sure if he'd had some sort of an injury and never recovered or something similar, but there was none of the pace and power we thought we were going to get when he was signed. Him and Hanson were on pretty hefty pay packets as well, I'd guess, which wasn't the best use of resources.
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| Tommy |
| September 29, 2023, 12:55pm |
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Hanson had a miraculous recovery from injury when Hurst took post.
Didn't play a minute in November, December and the first two games of January. Yet after missing the first two games under Hurst, then went onto play 18 of the next 19, starting and lasting the full game of many of them.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.
Think that was to do with Holloways obsession with what he referred to as "my run that I have" - the challenging run he often referred to as being his way of someone proving their fitness. Obviously failing to recognise that players and their bodies are different, and someone like a 35 year old (don't know how old he was) Hanson wouldn't do a 10 mile run but could still be used effectively in a match if managed correctly throughout the week. I'm sure Hurst just managed his training regime and had realistic expectations of him, and probably listened to the sports science input about Hansons individual capabilities and needs. |
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| diehardmariner |
| September 29, 2023, 1:30pm |
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Ah yes, the run that Greg Halford failed a matter of days before coming off the bench for Southend to seal the 3 points for them.
I don't think Halford was a world beater, certainly not at that point of his career but a useful utility player and definitely a physical presence option in attack. In comparison we replaced our starting attack of Owen Windsor and Ira Jackson Jr with Montel Gibson and Alhagi Touray Sisay from the bench
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| Davec |
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Matt Green was absolutely horrendous for us after a half decent first couple of months or so the season before, but in our relegation season it was very evident he was past it and offered very very little, but amazingly I do remember at the end of that season there was some posters on this forum who actually wanted Green to lead our line in the national league! All I can say is I'm glad he wasn't offered a new deal
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