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male private Nale
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This will go down as one of Hurst’s worst decisions in giving him a 3 year gold plated contract. It seemed we had to have him at all costs . Consistently underwhelms bar a few games under holloway.
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He hasn’t been playing with a grade 4 tear
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This will go down as one of Hurst’s worst decisions in giving him a 3 year gold plated contract. It seemed we had to have him at all costs . Consistently underwhelms bar a few games under holloway.


I’m not gonna say it’s one of Hursts worst decisions but I’d tend to agree. Even under Holloway he wasn’t consistently great and in truth, he stood out in his time here previously because we were a bit excrement..,


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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He hasn’t been playing with a grade 4 tear


Not a chance!  A 4C tear is a full tear of both the muscle and the tendon.  That'll have felt like someone's shot him.  You're not even walking properly with that.

If this is the case 'a few months' is incredibly hopeful to say the least.  Recovery timeline is always subjective to the varying factors and the individual as well.  Sadly once the tendon is impacted there's a significantly higher chance of reoccurrence, which makes it absolutely essential you get that rehab done correctly and at an appropriate pace.  

Feel for the lad, I really do.
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Surely, with two threads merged, the correct title should be Vernams?

He's been disappointing since his return but, if he's been playing with a thigh injury, it would perhaps explain why he's been so much out of sorts.

Back when I played, I battled on with a minor thigh injury which really didn't hurt too badly but slowed me down a bit but then a long-standing knee problem began to hurt more. Physio confirmed that the damaged thigh muscle had destabilised the knee and, after a month or two of exercises, both of the injuries sorted themselves out.
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Yep, very much the prevention rather than the cure concept.  Good physios get to the root cause and diagnosis the problem rather than the symptoms.  

Hammy's are often linked with knee problems but unfortunately the body is wonderful at masking problems.  
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He hasn’t been playing with a grade 4 tear


Like hell he has , you obviously don’t know what a grade 4 tear is.

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Like hell he has , you obviously don’t know what a grade 4 tear is.



I said he hasn’t been playing with a grade 4 tier.
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I’m not gonna say it’s one of Hursts worst decisions but I’d tend to agree. Even under Holloway he wasn’t consistently great and in truth, he stood out in his time here previously because we were a bit excrement..,


His best spell came when we were playing some of the best stuff we've played for a long time.  It's not a high bar but his purple patch, if you want to call it that, was December '19 to March '20.  He'd struggled under Jolley, got farmed out to Chorley on loan and found a bit of confidence.  Limbrick brought him back into the fold and he got better, bit by by bit.  Holloway charmed him and filled him with belief, which ultimately is what got him the option to move on.

He then went up a level and did ok.  Didn't tear up trees but did ok in a struggling side, six month spell before moving back to League Two with Bradford.  18 months there and you only need to look at the reaction of their fans on social media when he left to see what they thought of him.  10 goals and 6 assists from 54 games.  A goal contribution every 3.5 games. or 213 minutes if we're going on time he spent on the pitch....I'll take that from a winger.

Didn't really cut it at Lincoln, in and out the side for a whole season.  But it's a level above.

Really can't get my head round this rhetoric that he's a flash in the pan, only did it for a little bit etc.  He's more often than not, most certainly at this level, proved he's a very good player and a threat.  
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He’s one of the classic nearly men . Could’ve had a career higher up the pyramid with a bit more luck with injuries and being in the right club at the right time. Still got time to do well for us . There’s a really good player in there .


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