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diehardmariner
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Not sure those are the ones we had.  

Difficult to find an image of them but from video clips around that time, the one in the corner between the Main and Pontoon has two sections to it and both are much bigger (one more so than the other).  Can't find any camera stills of the ones either side of the Findus but I think they were bigger too.  Might be my memory playing tricks on me but I'm sure those seats added about 1000 to the capacity.

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Just found this, moments before Muzzy Izzet's wonder goal.  The ones in between the Osmond and the Findus definitely similar size to the ones between the Main and the Pontoon.

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God, I've done down a rabbit hole here...

  

Quick count of those seats shows 240.  If we had 3 of those longer structures that's 720, the small structure looks to have 9 seats (3 and a 6) with the same 10 rows back so 90 in each structure.  270 across the 3 corners.  

990 extra capacity.  Lets average out ticket prices at £15 a pop, that's £15k extra a game, providing you sell them and factor in that people might take those seats as opposed to ones behind a post in the Main Stand.   Absolutely no idea how much it would cost to buy or rent temp seats and there is definitely more to it than just getting them in lumping them in the corner.  Would be facility considerations and I'm sure someone has previously said on here safety rules have changed since we last had them in place.
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Get this 90 seater for £1800 for the weekend or the 130 seater for £2280 (https://www.mobile-grandstands.co.uk/).  Just on hire by game basis the cost of selling all those seats (in addition!) is around break even.   Obviously you wouldn't expect the club to hire on a game to game by basis.  





That company have provided one of those stands as a long term thing to Morpeth.  

To meet EFL regulations (minimum of 2000 seats) Barrow have popped up three temp stands, which doesn't look the worst in the world.  I mean it isn't going to win any design awards in the near future but there's a lot worse in this division and the one above.  https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2023/august/new-stands-at-barrow-afc-story/



Are 1878 going to look at this thread and think, intercourse it yeah we've missed a trick all along?  No.

But I don't think getting something in place is impossible, far from it.  
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Get this 90 seater for £1800 for the weekend or the 130 seater for £2280 (https://www.mobile-grandstands.co.uk/).  Just on hire by game basis the cost of selling all those seats (in addition!) is around break even.   Obviously you wouldn't expect the club to hire on a game to game by basis.  





That company have provided one of those stands as a long term thing to Morpeth.  

To meet EFL regulations (minimum of 2000 seats) Barrow have popped up three temp stands, which doesn't look the worst in the world.  I mean it isn't going to win any design awards in the near future but there's a lot worse in this division and the one above.  https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2023/august/new-stands-at-barrow-afc-story/



Are 1878 going to look at this thread and think, intercourse it yeah we've missed a trick all along?  No.

But I don't think getting something in place is impossible, far from it.  


Surely something like what Cleethorpes or Grimsby Borough have down the side of the pitch can be extended backwards? It is a modular solution but only a few rows deep.

Or, we have huge container ships arriving on our local docks, why not take some inspiration from Stadium 974 at the World Cup last year?
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Why are people obsessed with increasing the capacity?

Our average home gate last season was 6295, a smidge over 2/3rds full.

The owners have said more than once that it's not yet needed nor feasible, so why the constant speculation on the best place to add extra seats?
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Quoted from ginnywings
Why are people obsessed with increasing the capacity?

Our average home gate last season was 6295, a smidge over 2/3rds full.

The owners have said more than once that it's not yet needed nor feasible, so why the constant speculation on the best place to add extra seats?


Why are people obsessed with not increasing the capacity?

As things stand, the away end will only sell out two or three times a season, so you need to focus on home sales as a proportion of home capacity.

There is little or no headroom to grow the fanbase, that's hardly a recipe for progression as a club, is it?  Look at how Lincoln capitalised on the wave of enthusiasm following their promotions and cup success.

Or we can just drift along, with the club mirroring the town itself in terms of ambition and development.
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Why are people obsessed with not increasing the capacity?

As things stand, the away end will only sell out two or three times a season, so you need to focus on home sales as a proportion of home capacity.

There is little or no headroom to grow the fanbase, that's hardly a recipe for progression as a club, is it?  Look at how Lincoln capitalised on the wave of enthusiasm following their promotions and cup success.

Or we can just drift along, with the club mirroring the town itself in terms of ambition and development.


Yeah, this is what I keep hearing, but there are hardly hordes of fans locked out of the ground every week.

I want the club to grow as much as the next fan, but the clamour for more seating is putting the cart before the horse in my opinion.
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Gates are going up, are they not? Back to back increases, with a 3rd year likely this time round.

There's a whole different argument, done to death before, about bums on seats vs tickets sold and how many people can't come because of excrement seats (which in my view shouldn't be considered part of the capacity).

At this rate and definitely if we get into League One with much bigger away followings, we will need extra capacity.

Cart before the horse or closing the door after the horse has bolted?
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Sorry to say this but the last 2 home games show we don't need to increase capacity YET. 100s of seats free last game, not even spaced out ones. Plenty together so no excuses.
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