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One of the Fair Game principles is that the badge shouldn't be changed without fan consultation. Fans forums aren't as often as they could/should be, but then we engage well with fans really well in other aspects. 2 Trust members on the board, children designing the third kit every year, regular media/podcast appearances from the board. It also talks about the role of the SLO being that link between fans, police and clubs as per UEFA guidelines in that section, and there has been a lot of criticism regarding how easily we roll over to kick off changes, so maybe that has a bearing on it too?
I suppose the irregularity of fans forums and the badge change (although almost 2 years ago) potentially impact that.
It would be interesting for the club to confirm why it's so low, and what the likes of AFC Wimbledon are doing in this area.
Finances, we are losing money so it was never going to rank highly.
Like I said earlier it is just a snapshot in time that means nothing. Our finance score is low, because we are losing money but we are losing money because these good owners are having to spend a lot to put the previous owners mistakes right! Like all artificial tables this one is a waste of time. I hope we don't go too far down the rabbit hole of doing things to impress a compiler of tables rather than concentrate on the hard nosed business of winning football matches. I see the Fair Game people are now tweeting out to fans why any particular score is low, for example saying to Newport fans they will jump 10 places next week when their accounts are logged! So even submitting accounts gives you brownie points! |
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Seems to me that these results and tables have no context attached.
For instance, there is nothing wrong with debt if that debt is serviceable.
I also don't feel a lack of engagement from the club. Maybe it is my age, but I don't feel that I have to know about every single thing the club does behind the scenes.
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Seems to me that these results and tables have no context attached.
For instance, there is nothing wrong with debt if that debt is serviceable.
I also don't feel a lack of engagement from the club. Maybe it is my age, but I don't feel that I have to know about every single thing the club does behind the scenes.
I think our ownership structure has a large bearing on the fan engagement result. 1878 Partners Ltd own a huge proportion of the club, and to my knowledge, the Trust don't have enough shares or representation in the boardroom to block things. Yes, they can put their opinions across and that is fine when the owners are good people, but it causes an issue when people bring the likes of Alex May to the table and the fan representatives have to sit there, gagged by a confidentiality clause. Do I think we can engage better? Yes. Do I think our fan engagement is 1.5/20? Absolutely not! |
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I can’t remember what month/year the survey used as when data was obtained, but I suspect it was over a year ago when things were still Fenty legacy.
In the last 6 months , personally I think it’s been pretty good in difficult times.
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I can’t remember what month/year the survey used as when data was obtained, but I suspect it was over a year ago when things were still Fenty legacy.
In the last 6 months , personally I think it’s been pretty good in difficult times.
Someone has confirmed on twitter that the data was gathered when we were in National League, so don’t think we can draw many conclusions from our placing, other than say I would think all scores would now be much higher |
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To be fair we made money in the last few of the Fenty years and that kept getting us relegated
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To be fair we made money in the last few of the Fenty years and that kept getting us relegated
That's the point I think - there is a whole variety of scenarios and historical reasons behind every decision made at a football club. We didnt need an artificial league table to tell us we were poorly run, but in his eyes he saved us from financial meltdown. The owners, the available workforce, where it is situated and whether it has had a good decade or a terrible one, whether it finds itself above or below its natural level and is therefore finding it difficult to adjust to a new reality are just some of the multitude of reasons why a club is being well run or not. As Ginny says unless there is context to the results in my opinion they are meaningless. A decade ago Scunthorpe would have had good scores in some of those categories but so what, as there will always be some clubs on the way up and some on the way down. |
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What would adopting the Fair Game Index mean to gtfc? Another £5m a year apparently. https://twitter.com/fairgameuk/status/1681922471019048962?s=46All well and good until you scroll down a bit and see that it would mean an extra £7m for Donny, £10m a year for Tranmere and £20m a year for the likes of Shrewsbury. I’m sure someone who’s taken more than 10 seconds to look into this would be much better informed than me, but not sure how this be an objectively good thing, with us falling £15m a year behind Shrewsbury whilst leaving Conference clubs in another universe practically. |
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I think the PL may have something to say about this new distribution model ?
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We volunteered to pay a decent wage to all staff. Only club to do so in the EFL I think as Luton are now promoted. This is incurring “good” costs,
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