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WOZOFGRIMSBY
June 7, 2023, 11:14am

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Not read that one, I'll check it out!  Another interesting insight into management - albeit from a different sport- is Warren Gatlands 'pride and passion'.  The bit where he's Ireland coach and begging for a £5k scrum machine the IRFU deem too expensive having just blown £150k on the board members living it large in Rome for a weekend felt very Fenty-esque!


When’s a scrum machine ever got you etc etc etc……..


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Circumstances are very different to last time he went. We're very stable and he's well supported by owners I suspect he likes and trusts. Shrewsbury have just sacked Cotterill after finishing 12th. Not sure if there's more to it but seems very harsh when you look at who finished above them. Not sure where they expect a new manager to get them to.


I read the BBC report and it seemed to imply there was more to it without being explicit. The chairman said something about safeguarding the club so either Cotterill has done something naughty or his salary was too big a drain on the finances.


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I read the BBC report and it seemed to imply there was more to it without being explicit. The chairman said something about safeguarding the club so either Cotterill has done something naughty or his salary was too big a drain on the finances.


There are claims that Cotterill was bullying apparently but that was on that link about Shrews fans wanting PH again.


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Hands off Hurst.

They are welcome to Holloway though.
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There are claims that Cotterill was bullying apparently but that was on that link about Shrews fans wanting PH again.


Hmm...I did think the use of 'safeguarding' suggested something a bit deeper.

But I have no idea what the truth is.


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Honestly, I don't think they've got a cat in hell's chance. Paul Hurst is probably in one of the safest jobs in the industry at the moment - not in terms of maybe blind loyalty with no pressure to succeed but the owners are pragmatic and reasonable, they aren't the sort to fall into the usual fickleness of some owners sacking managers.

It's also not  2016 anymore and John Fenty is long gone which, lets be honest, was probably reason number 1, 2 and 3 of why he left in the first place. He is backed and supported massively, more so than getting the odd portacabin - just look at the off field staffing levels for him to utilise now, the investment in recruitment and infrastructure. The bloke has the chance to build something with a level of support that many don't get. With all due respect to Shrewsbury, I think it takes a much bigger proposition to tempt him away from here.

Another possible thing to consider, after Ipswich, Scunthorpe and being the manager when we went down (I'd argue all have mitigating circumstances) you could say he might be rebuilding his career slightly, if so he'd probably be abit careful at jumping in somewhere else with no guarantees that would go well and he's back at square one - especially after they've sacked a good manager that did ok for them.


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June 7, 2023, 3:08pm
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Honestly, I don't think they've got a cat in hell's chance. Paul Hurst is probably in one of the safest jobs in the industry at the moment - not in terms of maybe blind loyalty with no pressure to succeed but the owners are pragmatic and reasonable, they aren't the sort to fall into the usual fickleness of some owners sacking managers.

It's also not  2016 anymore and John Fenty is long gone which, lets be honest, was probably reason number 1, 2 and 3 of why he left in the first place. He is backed and supported massively, more so than getting the odd portacabin - just look at the off field staffing levels for him to utilise now, the investment in recruitment and infrastructure. The bloke has the chance to build something with a level of support that many don't get. With all due respect to Shrewsbury, I think it takes a much bigger proposition to tempt him away from here.

Another possible thing to consider, after Ipswich, Scunthorpe and being the manager when we went down (I'd argue all have mitigating circumstances) you could say he might be rebuilding his career slightly, if so he'd probably be abit careful at jumping in somewhere else with no guarantees that would go well and he's back at square one - especially after they've sacked a good manager that did ok for them.


I certainly think he probably feels he needs to rebuild his reputation as a League manager. Despite the success at Shrewsbury, he has only ever been promoted from non league.

Is Shrewsbury even that much of a step up as well? I doubt he'd command that much bigger salary and once he factors in the added cost of either moving to Shropshire or commuting further every day, the relative gains could be marginal. Shrewsbury are probably at the peak of what is achievable for them. He performed a minor miracle in getting them to the Playoff Final, and probably left because he knew, win or lose, he'd never replicate it the following season. With us, he has the scope to take the club further forward, both in terms of on the pitch and off the pitch infrastructure and leave behind a proper legacy and probably cement a legendary status, especially if he got us promoted again.

If he was to leave he'd effectively putting himself back on the managerial merry-go-round. He's not daft, he'll see all that and I think it would be unwise for him to move to somewhere like Shrewsbury now, or indeed, in the short to medium term.


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Interesting that Shrewsbury are looking for a ‘head coach’ rather than a manger. I get the impression Hurst is much more hands on and wants to be in charge of all the aspects of the football side. Can’t see this happening at all.


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Given the connotations, you'd hope that the use of the word 'safeguarding' in this case isn't relating to the commonplace modern usage of the word.
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Are there any odds floating around for their next manager can’t seem to find any
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