Paul Hurst Contract

Does anybody know how long it is , it has always been stated as 'long term ' .

Good that we/he has the stability

Unlike last time with a rolling contract ,small  compensation and a brief 'thank you for services rendered'.

Signed new improved contract last September but doesn't go into detail....

https://gtfc.co.uk/hurst-doig-sign-new-contracts/

Dare I say the rolling contract is quite clever and the only thing from the past I still think was good at the time.

Judging by the rumours doing the rounds it'll be paid up soon...Rotherham bound some seem to be saying, no idea how true that is btw

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Judging by the rumours doing the rounds it'll be paid up soon...Rotherham bound some seem to be saying, no idea how true that is btw

It would make sense

Rotherham have a manager who is currently on course to keep them in the Championship. I struggle to see where Hurst fits into that equation.

Some bored Hurst Out Twitter accounts have put it about.

If Rotherham stay up , no chance. If they go down possibly? Not worth worrying about really as I have faith in AP and JS to get the recruitment spot on

I will start worrying about Hurst's future if we finish midtable the next 2 seasons and it looks like he can't take us any further or we get promoted to League 1, as I think he would see that as a good time to jump ship.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Judging by the rumours doing the rounds it'll be paid up soon...Rotherham bound some seem to be saying, no idea how true that is btw

It will keep coming up won’t it. I’d be amazed if he left a really secure job for a yo-yo club. I know he played for them for most of his career but I think he said recently he was a Wednesday supporter, if it ever came his way which at this stage I can’t see why it would that’s a job I doubt he’d turn down

Load of cobblers.

Think the way he just sat on the bench today enjoying the sunshine tells you everything

Quoted from Simon

Think the way he just sat on the bench today enjoying the sunshine tells you everything

As opposed to what?

Hurst is an intelligent man and the tiling contract he has made total sense, especially at a club like town under the ownership of Fenty who went through managers like water.

Hurst is part of this project and he knows that, he’s a legend at Rotherham but again, you’d imagine he’d last 2/3 max. They’re not a stable club in terms of position etc and sometimes you can mucky your reputation.

The Hurst out crew are a weird bunch. I see that giant man baby regularly and he offers nothing other than a big gob, over the top conversations with little substance and boring nonsense about football. He offers no actual reason to get rid of a hurst or any solution as to what would happen should he go.

The Hurst out crew should’ve put this much effort in to ousting the previous owner and the many idiot managers he employed. They sound like jealous ex’s…

Back to topic, my understanding was Hurst signed an extension before Christmas?

I believe Hurst will stay put with Town for several years and has bought into the philosophy of JS & AP. His record since 1878 bought the club is:-

1st Year      Promotion from the NL
2nd Year     Consolidated as a League 2 club and a quarter Final F A cup run.

You can forget about his previous managerial posts as with 1878 it is the here and now that counts. As for Hurst he has a free reign over ALL football matters, here's your budget do what you like. If need be for a push we might find a bit more money.

I'm not saying it's eutopia for him but it's mighty close.

The Hurst out brigade are just weird fornicators.

If we even make the playoffs next year or, by some miracle, we go up, it puts Hurst above the Lord and Saviour as our greatest ever manager.

We point to our 98 promotion but context is everything and last year is off the scale in comparison…

Quoted from aldi_01

As opposed to what?

Hurst is an intelligent man and the tiling contract he has made total sense, especially at a club like town under the ownership of Fenty who went through managers like water.

Hurst is part of this project and he knows that, he’s a legend at Rotherham but again, you’d imagine he’d last 2/3 max. They’re not a stable club in terms of position etc and sometimes you can mucky your reputation.

The Hurst out crew are a weird bunch. I see that giant man baby regularly and he offers nothing other than a big gob, over the top conversations with little substance and boring nonsense about football. He offers no actual reason to get rid of a hurst or any solution as to what would happen should he go.

The Hurst out crew should’ve put this much effort in to ousting the previous owner and the many idiot managers he employed. They sound like jealous ex’s…

Back to topic, my understanding was Hurst signed an extension before Christmas?

The Hurst out brigade I suspect also hold the view McAtee isn’t all that and his attitude is causing issues, again complete bollox, some people are only happy when they’re unhappy.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The Hurst out brigade I suspect also hold the view McAtee isn’t all that and his attitude is causing issues, again complete bollox, some people are only happy when they’re unhappy.

I’ve absolutely no issue with people having different opinions, it’s good for discussion but I at least expect people to put forward a credible argument to justify their view…sadly, none of them can. They just point to cliches and poorly understood stats…

Quoted from aldi_01

The Hurst out brigade are just weird fornicators.

If we even make the playoffs next year or, by some miracle, we go up, it puts Hurst above the Lord and Saviour as our greatest ever manager.

We point to our 98 promotion but context is everything and last year is off the scale in comparison…

I don’t get it at all. I’ve been watching them for over 40 years. In that time we’ve only appointed two managers who’ve got us promoted. One is Buckley…

Quoted from 140381

I don’t get it at all. I’ve been watching them for over 40 years. In that time we’ve only appointed two managers who’ve got us promoted. One is Buckley…

Some excuses they often use to justify their drivel…

“He worries about the opposition…” - literally every manager does, there’s a reason Man City went for the jugular against Bayern…

“His substitutions are never early enough…” - not only do they fail to understand how the subs process works now, the games where this is trotted out is usually when we’ve been shite anyway. Easy to forgot the remainder of last season from about February onwards where we barely put a foot wrong…

“He cupped his ear”

“He’s dour and plays boring football” - again, absolute drivel, I remember games in that 97/98 season, we were flipping boring as hell sometimes.

And basically, he told some truths last time he was here and people didn’t like it.

Another favourite I hear is ‘he’ll never get us promoted’…weird. Apparently getting promoted the first time whilst working under the worst owner the clubs ever had and then last year which was some sort of miracle doesn’t count…

Quoted from aldi_01

Some excuses they often use to justify their drivel…

“He worries about the opposition…” - literally every manager does, there’s a reason Man City went for the jugular against Bayern…

“His substitutions are never early enough…” - not only do they fail to understand how the subs process works now, the games where this is trotted out is usually when we’ve been shite anyway. Easy to forgot the remainder of last season from about February onwards where we barely put a foot wrong…

“He cupped his ear”

“He’s dour and plays boring football” - again, absolute drivel, I remember games in that 97/98 season, we were flipping boring as hell sometimes.

And basically, he told some truths last time he was here and people didn’t like it.

Another favourite I hear is ‘he’ll never get us promoted’…weird. Apparently getting promoted the first time whilst working under the worst owner the clubs ever had and then last year which was some sort of miracle doesn’t count…

How about he can’t recognise attackers ….. clearly, just like Hannah, Hearn, Palmer (loan) , Bogle, Amond, Jackson (loan) McAtee and maybe a couple I’ve missed who did well for us or went on to have good careers.

My observation is he knows what he’s doing, is well organised, drives a high standard in the club and wins players respect.

Rob Scott (Rotherham's Head of Talent Identification) was heavily involved in recruitment process for Matt Taylor. While Scott remains in that post it's probably unlikely that Hurst will become Rotherham manager.

And re: the "Hurst out mob"...

The majority of fans only attend home games and some of them the occasional away game.

We've won 4 home league games out of 20 so far this season.

Whilst I wouldn't want him sacked you can understand the frustration. We haven't really had value for money at BP this season in terms of results or performances for that matter.

So while I disagree with the "Hurst out mob" I totally understand their opinion and believe it to be a valid one.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

And re: the "Hurst out mob"...

The majority of fans only attend home games and some of them the occasional away game.

We've won 4 home league games out of 20 so far this season.

Whilst I wouldn't want him sacked you can understand the frustration. We haven't really had value for money at BP this season in terms of results or performances for that matter.

So while I disagree with the "Hurst out mob" I totally understand their opinion and believe it to be a valid one.

I'm neither Hurst in or out. Home league form and performances have been nothing less than dreadful this season but are countenanced by good away form, the cup run and the fact that we had such a short pre-season.

In 55 years of watching Town, I've seen some very good football and the club managed by very good managers, including the likes of McMenemy, Booth, Newman, Kerr and Buckley. Hurst is pragmatic and he's a builder, he gets results which, at the end of the day, is what it's all about. I don't think that makes him a legend as what he's done is at the lowest level. I'm sure that he'd like to see us play more attractive football but, in practical terms, that's why Green and Holohan play ahead of Hunt.

Quoted from aldi_01

The Hurst out brigade are just weird fornicators.

If we even make the playoffs next year or, by some miracle, we go up, it puts Hurst above the Lord and Saviour as our greatest ever manager.

We point to our 98 promotion but context is everything and last year is off the scale in comparison…

2nd greatest ever ? No chance ............. and as for comparing last season with 98 😂😂😂. That's funny .......  

The home form has been frustrating but virtually everyone of his seasons he has improved us year on year, how many managers within our reach could achieve this ?. I’d love to see ideas of a better replacement as most mentioned on here in previous posts have since failed at other clubs.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

And re: the "Hurst out mob"...

The majority of fans only attend home games and some of them the occasional away game.

We've won 4 home league games out of 20 so far this season.

Whilst I wouldn't want him sacked you can understand the frustration. We haven't really had value for money at BP this season in terms of results or performances for that matter.

So while I disagree with the "Hurst out mob" I totally understand their opinion and believe it to be a valid one.

Echoes my view tbh

Can see attendances dropping unless there is either a big improvement in performance or results next season .

Quoted from Grim up north

The home form has been frustrating but virtually everyone of his seasons he has improved us year on year, how many managers within our reach could achieve this ?. I’d love to see ideas of a better replacement as most mentioned on here in previous posts have since failed at other clubs.

I like the consistency of Hurst at least you know what you are getting and suspect Stockwood and Pettit feel similiarly , it's a lottery with managers at this level so i suppose going as long as we can without being in it is acceptable ; but we know Hursts style is not always in line with good football but if implemented successfully probably would give us a chance of getting out of league 2 next season or the one after .

Quoted from aldi_01

I see that giant man baby regularly and he offers nothing other than a big gob, over the top conversations with little substance and boring nonsense about football. He offers no actual reason to get rid of a hurst or any solution as to what would happen should he go.

Are you talking about the guy that was fighting with another Town fan at Dagenham last season?

Quoted from Son of Cod

Are you talking about the guy that was fighting with another Town fan at Dagenham last season?

Is it the bloke who sits near me in the lower who just abuses Hurst and Taylor the whole game ?

Quoted from Son of Cod

Are you talking about the guy that was fighting with another Town fan at Dagenham last season?

Probably, certainly sounds like something he’d probably do.

As I said, opinions are great and I get that people don’t have to like everything, there were times under Buckley I wasn’t overly excited or enthralled. That’s just how it is but at least have some justification and facts to support your opinion…

Just updated one of my spreadsheets and...

Our next home league win will be our 1,200th home league win in the Football League. Our current home record in the Football League is...

Played 2361
Won 1199
Drew 591
Lost 571
GF 4098
GA 2577
GD +1521

In terms of points per game we currently have 4 season where our points per game at home was less than 1 (seasons before 1982 amended to 3 points) and they were...

2002/03 :   W 5   D 6   L 12   GD -13   Pts 21  PPG 0.91
2009/10 :   W 4   D 9   L 10   GD -11   Pts 21  PPG 0.91
1947/48 :   W 5   D 5   L 11   GD -15   Pts 20  PPG 0.95
1968/69 :   W 5   D 7   L 11   GD -6   Pts 22  PPG 0.96

This season we are on 22 points & - 5 goal difference from 20 home league matches. So if we lost all 3 of our remaining home games this would be our 5th ever season with less than 1 point per game at home and would become our 4th worst ever season of home league matches.

Our best season of home league matches was 1925/26 when we won 20 out of 21 home league matches and drew the other one on the way to the Division 3 North title. Obviously none of us was around back then but I'm sure the 1-1 draw against Wigan Borough on Saturday 14th November 1925 was met with boos and calls for Wilf Gillow to be sacked.