Jordan Cropper Vs Michee Efete.

Think it's fair to say Hurst knows his right backs, n Michee has played 75 games for us since signing.Cropper has played 10, n Hurst has shown no inclination to bring in another f.b. over the 3 windows.
Think that tells us all we need to know on what PH thinks of Michee. Just wish we could get a sports pyschologist to get hold of him. I'd sure itd work wonders

I would keep Cropper. As we saw in the playoffs, Those throw ins can turn a game. Great option to have off the bench.

If you think we find croppers long throws useful/a dangerous weapon, what do you think those sides towering over us at set pieces would make of him?

I think (unfortunately) he will go elsewhere in league 2 next season as I don't think we will retain him. Hurst showed no inclination to use him as a sub even for a game like hartlepool away, were michee had been given the freedom of the park by the oppo and did nothing with it. Even when we were chasing the game in the last few minutes he persevered with what hadn't worked when we had space nevermind when they were defending,rather than bring on cropper. Probably as much because he fears other teams height and so wants to retain michee for defending set pieces. I'd say got for it the other way round and pressure them at any throw by getting cropper on.

They both have a different set of core attributes, and you would expect Cropper to be a much more defensive full back than Efete, meaning any attacks down the right need to come from someone else, but you would accommodate that because of his incredible long throw.

I actually like Efete inside at RCB in a back 3. I can't recall seeing Cropper sprint to comment on how fast he is but I also think he could do a job in a back 3. The thing is with Cropper, you can make some allowances providing he's solid because of that incredible long throw.

Cropper has the best long throw I have ever seen live, not only does he get distance on it, but he is incredibly accurate and I love seeing defenders hesitating about whether they should concede a throw or corner.

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Think it's fair to say Hurst knows his right backs, n Michee has played 75 games for us since signing.Cropper has played 10, n Hurst has shown no inclination to bring in another f.b. over the 3 windows.
Think that tells us all we need to know on what PH thinks of Michee. Just wish we could get a sports pyschologist to get hold of him. I'd sure itd work wonders

I hadn't realised Efete had played 75 games for us. Based on that I would have thought he would have developed more to approach and compete with Lg2 football.

If we want to be challenging next season, Cropper is just not good enough, he won't be retained. He's too injury prone, and unfortunately for him hasn't been able to prove him at league 2, let alone the top end of league 2.

His long throws are a weapon, but a weapon better suited to the NL IMO. His long throws in the outstanding play-off run will be remembered for years to come, but it strikes me as a similar case to JMD. A player whose ultimately not cut-out for league football, but will do a decent job in the NL, although saying that, JMD hasn't helped Yeovil all that much.

We have to push the boat out this summer, and for me, that is targeting the Emmanuels of the (league 2) world.

About time we had an Efete bashing thread eh? Some of you lot are clueless. Stats show he's among the best five right backs in the division, Hurst plays him when he's fit more than any other outfield player. You chase him out of the club, trust me, you'll be missing his pace, power, stamina, energy and aerial ability down our right. He's not perfect, but then who is in our League Two squad.

As for Cropper, National League standard player with a long throw. We need better and need not to rely on long throws from a footballing perspective, the play-offs were a one off. And as for Emmanuel.. I've seen enough to offer him another contract, but in no way do his performances so far this season mean he's nailed on to have a flood of offers from League One.

A lot of you made up your minds about Efete when he had a bad spell in the autumn and are sticking with it despite many outstanding performances since. My guess is that Hurst will offer him a one year contract extension on top of the year he's got left, but he may get poached by a League One club or a top end League Two team.

Before you all wet your knickers, let's wait and see until the summer. Bookmark this, and if I'm wrong, get on your high horses then..

Disgraceful amount of relentless stick he's had this season, he's one of our own players, and one of the better ones. Some of you should hang your heads in shame..

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About time we had an Efete bashing thread eh? Some of you lot are clueless. Stats show he's among the best five right backs in the division, Hurst plays him when he's fit more than any other outfield player. You chase him out of the club, trust me, you'll be missing his pace, power, stamina, energy and aerial ability down our right. He's not perfect, but then who is in our League Two squad.

As for Cropper, National League standard player with a long throw. We need better and need not to rely on long throws from a footballing perspective, the play-offs were a one off. And as for Emmanuel.. I've seen enough to offer him another contract, but in no way do his performances so far this season mean he's nailed on to have a flood of offers from League One.

A lot of you made up your minds about Efete when he had a bad spell in the autumn and are sticking with it despite many outstanding performances since. My guess is that Hurst will offer him a one year contract extension on top of the year he's got left, but he may get poached by a League One club or a top end League Two team.

Before you all wet your knickers, let's wait and see until the summer. Bookmark this, and if I'm wrong, get on your high horses then..

Disgraceful amount of relentless stick he's had this season, he's one of our own players, and one of the better ones. Some of you should hang your heads in shame..

I am a big critic of efete, but I believe a fair one, I totally agree with your description of how we would miss his pace, power, stamina, energy and ability in the air. But I think its telling that his biggest proponent lists all his best attributes as physical ones and none of them include ability with the ball.

He's a phenomenal athlete, with a footballing ability at lower level NL at best. His athleticism can make up for some of his limitations with the ball, but not all. We can play in a way that makes the most of his style too to help but ultimately if we are going for top 7 we'll need better quality width than he offers if he's RB or especially RWB. If he is right sided centre back that's different and I think that role suits him better.

well if the stats say he's one of the best r.b.'s in the div (& remember it's his first year in the FL) and Hurst continues to pick him, then that will do for me.
I also think he has come apace since we switched to a back 3

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About time we had an Efete bashing thread eh? Some of you lot are clueless. Stats show he's among the best five right backs in the division, Hurst plays him when he's fit more than any other outfield player. You chase him out of the club, trust me, you'll be missing his pace, power, stamina, energy and aerial ability down our right. He's not perfect, but then who is in our League Two squad.

As for Cropper, National League standard player with a long throw. We need better and need not to rely on long throws from a footballing perspective, the play-offs were a one off. And as for Emmanuel.. I've seen enough to offer him another contract, but in no way do his performances so far this season mean he's nailed on to have a flood of offers from League One.

A lot of you made up your minds about Efete when he had a bad spell in the autumn and are sticking with it despite many outstanding performances since. My guess is that Hurst will offer him a one year contract extension on top of the year he's got left, but he may get poached by a League One club or a top end League Two team.

Before you all wet your knickers, let's wait and see until the summer. Bookmark this, and if I'm wrong, get on your high horses then..

Disgraceful amount of relentless stick he's had this season, he's one of our own players, and one of the better ones. Some of you should hang your heads in shame..

There are lies, damned lies and statistics!
It's all down to opinions but I can't see Efete being poached by a League 1 side. Criticism of a player isn't the same as ' relentless stick'. Efete has his faults, like most players at this level, but that doesn't mean we , as fans, aren't entitled to highlight them.