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Rick, you need to read about the concept of the Overton window: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_windowRight-wing thinking has been dominant in British politics for so long now that the Overton window has been dragged far to the right. 'Centre' now means something around where Thatcher was back in the 1980s and both the LibDems and (New) Labour are in that sphere. The right-wing dominated media have been instrumental in this push, of course and they'll do their best to keep things that way. Their billionaire owners have got vastly wealthier by ensuring this. As I frequently mentioned during the past couple of elections, Corbyn was a moderate social democrat, most of whose policies wouldn't have been out of place in a Tory Party manifesto from the 1970s. All would have been entirely acceptable in most of Western Europe where social democracy is still very much in place. However, the Overton window has been pushed so far to the right that sensible policies which most of the electorate agree with were portrayed as looney left-wing stuff by the media. We desperately need to get the Overton window dragged leftwards because, if it continues to drift further to the right, we're only headed in one direction and it's not towards Socialism, however the likes of Humbo may delude themselves. Read through Umberto Eco's list of common features of fascism and consider how many apply now within our country which didn't necessarily do so a decade ago: https://www.openculture.com/20.....ures-of-fascism.html
Spot on. There was a hilarious study where people were asked if they agreed with Corbyn's policies in isolation without being told that they were Corbyn policies. Virtually all of them had a large majority agree with them (think it was around 75% agreed with nationalising the railway). But so many of the sheep in society are convinced by the right wing media that anyone wanting to implement these sort of policies that would improve the lives of all of us is virtually a Bolshevik hell bent on turning us into the Soviet Union. The irony of Johnson et al. being in the pocket of all the Russian oligarchs is equally funny but there are none so blind as those that won't see.
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Been a way for a bit on the fishy due to personal reasons which I cant go into but I know Ive been laughed a bit by some on here(albeit minority) due to my religious views which is a shame as I can rip into anybody if I wanted and put them right down as we all have weakness but I choose not to as I feel constructive criticism and dialogue is the way to go.
I actually have a bit of respect for Humbercod though as at least he has the balls to go against the grain eg to many lefty's on the fishy. Politically left or right noone can get it spot on though I feel.
On a wider note after being on the left side of the political spectrum and also the right Iam neither none now but right down the middle. Likewise my religious views have changed as well. Ive tried to look at things from a open deeper perspective and feel the Native American Indians had it spot on eg try to live in harmony with nature. I note David Attenborough the nature television presenter says the same eg ultimately we are here to carry on the human population and live in harmony with nature.
Give it Pocahontas til the next election
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DB doesn’t even realise he’s been brainwashed. He’s being a good “peasant” and keeping in his lane and offering deference and doffing his cap to his betters (Boris, Rees-Mogg and Co).
How does All Things Bright and Beautiful go? “The rich man in his castle, the poor man at his gate.”
He’s just been a good poor man and standing by the gate and offering scorn on anyone who thinks “f*** that” and is kicking the gate down.
A strange opinion of me as I never joined any political party. All I've seen in the last few decades is Tory sleaze and Labour's lies. My problem has been trying to find some truth in what the politicians say and Boris certainly conned me and many others.
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What an extraordinary view to hold. No wonder you'll vote for the Tories who look on the rest of the population with disdain if you also view yourself that way. Wealth and a private education doesn't give anyone a right to rule.
I'm not wealthy and certainly had no private education, but I did vote and defend Harold Wilson. I also voted for Tony Blair so perhaps some of my views are the same as yours.
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Been a way for a bit on the fishy due to personal reasons which I cant go into but I know Ive been laughed a bit by some on here(albeit minority) due to my religious views which is a shame as I can rip into anybody if I wanted and put them right down as we all have weakness but I choose not to as I feel constructive criticism and dialogue is the way to go.
I actually have a bit of respect for Humbercod though as at least he has the balls to go against the grain eg to many lefty's on the fishy. Politically left or right noone can get it spot on though I feel.
On a wider note after being on the left side of the political spectrum and also the right Iam neither none now but right down the middle. Likewise my religious views have changed as well. Ive tried to look at things from a open deeper perspective and feel the Native American Indians had it spot on eg try to live in harmony with nature. I note David Attenborough the nature television presenter says the same eg ultimately we are here to carry on the human population and live in harmony with nature.
Welcome back.
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I suppose it was too much to expect an actual apology for the long list of disgraceful behaviour that has led to him being forced out. Maybe an ounce of contrition or even respect for the role he has debased would have been nice. But no. He’s the victim in all of this and he’s been treated unfairly apparently. Absolute maggot.
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I suppose it was too much to expect an actual apology for the long list of disgraceful behaviour that has led to him being forced out. Maybe an ounce of contrition or even respect for the role he has debased would have been nice. But no. He’s the victim in all of this and he’s been treated unfairly apparently. Absolute maggot.
Exactly the speech i expected from him, playing the victim whilst his clingers on ie Dorries stand there applauding him as though he's the saviour
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I suppose it was too much to expect an actual apology for the long list of disgraceful behaviour that has led to him being forced out. Maybe an ounce of contrition or even respect for the role he has debased would have been nice. But no. He’s the victim in all of this and he’s been treated unfairly apparently. Absolute maggot.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we got May back in as a temporary PM
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Exactly the speech i expected from him, playing the victim whilst his clingers on ie Dorries stand there applauding him as though he's the saviour
Of course, it’s what we all expected. Going out as PM like he’s lived his entire life.
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