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GollyGTFC
December 21, 2021, 9:40am

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I would hope the National League will allow them to postpone their home game on Boxing Day. Their next home game after that is Tuesday 25th January against us.
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No sympathy at all. They voted for their leaders, and they shouldn't be in our leagues anyway
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December 21, 2021, 9:55am

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The Drakeford is an anus.


It’s a shame we don’t have a Prime Minister who prioritises protecting the NHS and key public services ahead of protecting himself, those in his inner circle & having to worry about the nutters in his party from sending letters in to Graham Brady & finishing him off.

At times of crisis you need a leader who does the right thing ahead of making himself popular or making decisions based on being re-elected in the future by pandering to the anti-everything mob.

If it was Drakeford or Johnson give me Drakeford everytime.
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Easy for Drakeford and and Sturgeon to impose lockdowns that impinge on the economy, they just hold out their begging bowls to us nasty English and we give them another few billion pounds,as happened at the back of last week.
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Easy for Drakeford and and Sturgeon to impose lockdowns that impinge on the economy, they just hold out their begging bowls to us nasty English and we give them another few billion pounds,as happened at the back of last week.


Scottish and Welsh tax payers pay into the same pot as us, so are equally as entitled to help when required.

Don’t forget that Thatcher’s revolution in the 80s was funded with the revenue from North Sea Oil. Without the black gold off the coast of Scotland Thatcherism couldn’t have happened.

The myth that Scotland & Wales takes more from the union than they put in is just that. It’s not true and when English people use the lie as a stick to beat Wales & Scotland with it just fuels the SNP and makes the break up of the union more likely.
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Scottish and Welsh tax payers pay into the same pot as us, so are equally as entitled to help when required.

Don’t forget that Thatcher’s revolution in the 80s was funded with the revenue from North Sea Oil. Without the black gold off the coast of Scotland Thatcherism couldn’t have happened.

The myth that Scotland & Wales takes more from the union than they put in is just that. It’s not true and when English people use the lie as a stick to beat Wales & Scotland with it just fuels the SNP and makes the break up of the union more likely.


I think it's a bit neither/or type situation.  https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-has-scotland-subsidised-the-rest-of-the-uk - generally a lack of evidence on either side to support the argument.

What I would say is that I imagine both Wales and Scotland would be weaker in terms of negotiations and trade, not to mention as a military force, by not sitting in the Union.   However, they would also be able to rejoin the EU...which in turn would strengthen them to a position far greater than those that remain in the Union.  If, big if, either Scotland or Wales gain complete independence from the Union, I think it could have a domino effect and we see breakaways of regions from England.
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I think it's a bit neither/or type situation.  https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-has-scotland-subsidised-the-rest-of-the-uk - generally a lack of evidence on either side to support the argument.

What I would say is that I imagine both Wales and Scotland would be weaker in terms of negotiations and trade, not to mention as a military force, by not sitting in the Union.   However, they would also be able to rejoin the EU...which in turn would strengthen them to a position far greater than those that remain in the Union.  If, big if, either Scotland or Wales gain complete independence from the Union, I think it could have a domino effect and we see breakaways of regions from England.


They wouldn't be able to join the EU. Look at the mess with NI and that's with a sea separating us. No way will we or the EU let that happen.

Wales definitely take more than they pay. Scotland is a difficult one, but when the green revolution comes and the oil drilling stops then they will be firmly taking too.
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Drakeford is a former Professor of Social Policy who has a good grasp of public health issues and is highly respected in Wales.

Johnson is a former journalist, known for his laziness, dishonesty and willingness to say anything which will benefit him, regardless of the wider consequences. Nobody believes a word he says.

I know which one I'd prefer to see directing public policy.
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They wouldn't be able to join the EU. Look at the mess with NI and that's with a sea separating us. No way will we or the EU let that happen.

Wales definitely take more than they pay. Scotland is a difficult one, but when the green revolution comes and the oil drilling stops then they will be firmly taking too.


They would be an independent nation, dictating their own fate. Once 'divorced' the influence of London and the UK over Scotland would be no more than the influence over say Norway or Iceland, i.e none.  The EU would gladly have them in, Scotland especially if only from a military strategic position.  Independent of the Union, Scotland would have to apply as per Article 49 with the requirements that they meet the Copenhagen criteria, which they would as a former member of the EU (under the UK umbrella).

Don't see how the borders would be an issue to be honest.  The only opposition I can imagine would be from the likes of Spain as they've got their own internal issues with separatist movements, but as long as the separation from London was legal it would go through smoothly.  
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They had a 9000 sell out on Boxing Day !!
I know there are arguments as to wether they should be in an ‘English’ league. And the same for Swansea I guess.
But playing behind closed doors whilst all your opponents don’t have to doesn’t seem right to me.

Having a different transfer window to the rest of the division is ridiculously harsh on them too. However, on the other hand they've got players on annual wages that are getting on for half of entire squads in this division and their owners have global reach and resources beyond the wildest dreams of all other clubs in the Conference so fuck 'em.
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