Macclesfield wound-up

Quoted from Lincs Iron man

Northbank Mariner

How on earth can you say we aren't the biggest???

We have been in league one for a good few seasons while Lincoln and yourselves were in the national league

Our crowds have been pretty good over the years and anything between 4000 - 6000k. You're only getting 3-4K and although Lincoln have been getting 9 -10k but that doesn't count as they are plastic supporters so means little

Bear in mind Grimsby and Lincoln is twice the size of Scunthorpe

You don’t even know the size of your own town. No way are the populations of GY and Lincoln twice Scunthorpe’s.

WILL PEOPLE STOP FEEDING TROLLS FFS!!!!

Grimsby estimated population 2018 88,565
Scunthorpe estimated population 2018 83,072

both taken from citypopulation.de

Hardly twice the size is it?

(btw Lincolns on the site is estimated at 106,47)

Quoted from Lincs Iron man

Northbank Mariner

How on earth can you say we aren't the biggest???

We have been in league one for a good few seasons while Lincoln and yourselves were in the national league

Our crowds have been pretty good over the years and anything between 4000 - 6000k. You're only getting 3-4K and although Lincoln have been getting 9 -10k but that doesn't count as they are plastic supporters so means little

Last season you had one game over 6000, and that was against us, every other game was 3-4k. In fact thats been the pattern for the last few seasons, mostly 3-4k with the occasional local derby bumping up to 6k. Your average for last season was 3546, ours was 4599.

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Bear in mind Grimsby and Lincoln is twice the size of Scunthorpe

Grimsbys population is only a few thousand more, although to be fair Cleethorpes adds another 40k, but thats still not double.

Quoted from scrumble

Last season you had one game over 6000, and that was against us, every other game was 3-4k. In fact thats been the pattern for the last few seasons, mostly 3-4k with the occasional local derby bumping up to 6k. Your average for last season was 3546, ours was 4599.



Grimsbys population is only a few thousand more, although to be fair Cleethorpes adds another 40k, but thats still not double.

I think you could consider NE Lincs v North Lincs regarding populations, and from memory these are extremely similar.  NE Lincs is Grimsby + Cleethorpes + Immingham + Villages, North Lincs is Scunny + Brigg + More Villages (because they've not got the sea next to them!).  Either way, we've always had bigger crowds apart from Scunny's flirt with The Championship when we were way off the pace.  One thing you can't just do, though, is dismiss Lincoln; they were always quite poorly supported, but they've achieved a quite remarkable renaissance in the last 3-4 years - one that we (GTFC) have never had in my own lifetime.

and they've just had a bid of 100€ million rejected for a Dortmund player up the road

Shocking state football is in at the moment

Quoted from mimma

It's usually the taxman that files for bankruptcy. If you owe him money, he will come after you. After the collapse of ITV Digital, we couldn't pay our PAYE bill. We managed to secure a deal whereby we payed the bill over a number of years.Of course servicing this debt impacted on the playing budgit during this time, and we ended up in non-league.

You can have loans up to your eyeballs, no problem. But, if the creditors decide they want it all back, and you cannot pay it back, that is when you are in big trouble.

The problem with the non payment of PAYE was that the club had already spent the ITV Digital money that then, never was received. In addition, parachute payments from EPL to affected EFL clubs was not received because [Portsmouth] refused to pay it. It was I recall, £300k and would have kept HMRC from the door.

Two lesson learned; Don't spend money before you get it, no matter how certain it is and don't trust other (bigger) clubs to bail you out.

Macc's Moss Rose ground up for sale - offers over £500k which equates to the debt.
However only 30 odd years left on the lease so the buyer would presumably then have to try & buy the freehold before they could do anything with it.  

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Macc's Moss Rose ground up for sale - offers over £500k which equates to the debt.
However only 30 odd years left on the lease so the buyer would presumably then have to try & buy the freehold before they could do anything with it.  

I was reading this on right move and it appears that the purchaser is expected to take over the phone lines and website. It reads as though it’s the club for sale not the ground.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-97500557.html#_full-description

Although now says no longer on the market

In football, as in life, it is wise to regard all potential debts as actual debts that need to be paid.

Unconfirmed income, and promises of money in the future, should only be seen as “money in the bank or your back pocket” when you physically have it.