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July 10, 2020, 9:06am Report to Moderator
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There were 3 VAR decisions in last night's games and the authorities have admitted all 3 decisions were incorrect.

How on earth has football allowed this? To go from debatable refereeing decisions to debatable VAR decisions? What is the point? Surely it just emphasizes the difficulties in getting a split second decision right.

The big difference is that when the ref gets it wrong the game continues but VAR disrupts the game, sucks all the joy out of celebrating a goal while it is checked for a possible offence on the halfway line 5 minutes before the ball hits the net...

The whole thing stinks. The Premier league want to be careful the fans don't fall out of love with the game.
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Here’s the real issue...

Why are we the only country in the world that doesn’t get the on field referee to go to the monitor and make the decision on all non-offside VAR checks.

Why? Because Mike Riley is worried it would hold up the game by a few minutes.

Does it really matter if a 3PM kick off finished at 4:55 instead of 4:50?
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Man Utd have had EIGHTEEN penalties this season, and that's with VAR!

Without looking, don't think we've had that many in 5 years.
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Fair play to the authorities, they tried something and it hasn't worked.  Across the board it's unpopular.  Takes a big man to admit they made a mistake and scrap it though.

Of course, without VAR we won't be able to have any of the TV adverts that no doubt will come on every review decision.   I'm sure there's no plans to keep these drink breaks and flood them with adverts either...
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Fair play to the authorities, they tried something and it hasn't worked.  Across the board it's unpopular.  Takes a big man to admit they made a mistake and scrap it though.

Of course, without VAR we won't be able to have any of the TV adverts that no doubt will come on every review decision.   I'm sure there's no plans to keep these drink breaks and flood them with adverts either...


It’s worked in every other country though hasn’t it?

In England we were late to the party. We started it a year after every other major league. And we still managed to mess it up by excluding the on field referee from the decision making process.
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decisions last night were laughably bad
that United penalty was a foul on the villa player and still the ref and VAR got it wrong, scrap it, it hasnt worked
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It’s worked in every other country though hasn’t it?

In England we were late to the party. We started it a year after every other major league. And we still managed to mess it up by excluding the on field referee from the decision making process.


Has it?  Genuinely I don't know.  In complete honesty I watch very limited English football now, especially at the level that VAR is used.  My exposure to foreign leagues is more or less non-existent.

From what I have seen (in this country) is that it completely ruins the flow of the game, is unwanted by the majority of fans and gets key decisions wrong (despite putting them under a microscope).  I've always maintained that the margin for error is what makes football a beautiful game, it's part of the unpredictability of it.  Goals ruled out because someone was offside by a pube seven minutes earlier doesn't lend itself to the game and if you're going to make it clear cut and clinical, it has to be that - not littered with errors.
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I believe it’s taken the spirit out of the game. Is a player whose big toe is offside really gaining such an advantage that it merits disallowing a goal?

The handball rule preventing perfectly good goals being allowed is another one of VAR’s quirks that is contributing to ruining the game. How is Michael Oliver the VAR referee for Tottenham just one week after he has disallowed a perfectly good goal and then refutes a blatant penalty? John Moss awarded Man Utd 2 penalty kicks at Spurs just 5 games ago, one of which overturned as Fernandes took a dive and the same player does it again last night with the same ref just 5 games later, bizarre.

I recall that prior to VAR it was shown that 95% of decisions were correct and somehow VAR has managed to increase debate and controversy plus killing part of the enjoyment of the game.

I would expect it’s here to stay and changes are required for improvement of the spectacle, firstly the o field referee should be the one to make the final decision, to be offside there should be clear daylight between the attacking player and defender and as already agreed the accidental handball rule Prior to a goal being scored must be scrapped.
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To bring in more advertising revenue drinks breaks are being extended to 90 mins in all professional matches.  They are looking at extending to extra time in the future.

Football cameos of 10 mins are being introduced in all advertising breaks.  

Who needs crowds, who needs live football? Just watch old matches on the BBC.

You knew VAR and VAR errors and delays, Covid, no live matches, no crowds, no money, no toilets and drinks breaks were the thin edge of the wedge.  It all makes sense in a  parallel universe.  (Only the Veggies will be left as they can survive financially without fans - and have plenty of food).
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........................Not to mention changes to handball and offsides.  All decisions harder to see, more difficult and prone to error.
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