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VAR is male masturbation
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The VAR fella watched the Nketiah red card tackle about 307 times the other night, must've taken about an hour. The ref trotted over, watched it once and changed his decision!
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I was all for VAR, but it has caused more issues, than resolved...
but somethings are not VAR fault, it's the people in charge, and the rules!
If it hits a hand in the build up to a goal, its disallowed, that's a stupid rule, not VAR fault
And in the World cup 2018, the referees looked at a lot of incidents on the screen, as they needed to be in charge still.
Yet in the premier league, that very very rarely has happened??
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I was all for VAR, but it has caused more issues, than resolved...
but somethings are not VAR fault, it's the people in charge, and the rules!
If it hits a hand in the build up to a goal, its disallowed, that's a stupid rule, not VAR fault
And in the World cup 2018, the referees looked at a lot of incidents on the screen, as they needed to be in charge still.
Yet in the premier league, that very very rarely has happened??
Absolutely, it's the rules that are stupid. Adapt them and it will be much better. Some people still won't like it because it interrupts the flow of the game. But they're the same people that moaned that something needed doing because referees make too many mistakes
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The thing is you can use technology effectively but this current attempt is farcical.
The ultimate question has to be 'has VAR improved football?'. For me, it hasn't. Far from it in fact. Nit-picking on slight offsides or ridiculous handballs in the build up to goals isn't improving football. These aren't things that anyone would even have noticed without the over the top analysis.
Then you've got incidents like last night where the Villa lad was fouled, yet somehow gives a penalty away. Now I know that the referee gave that decision, he made a mistake but VAR is there as a checks and balance. It's simply failing in what it's intended to do.
I agree with other points about the rules, especially around offsides and handball. They need changing, VAR in the game or not. But let's bring football back to what it was, sport involving humans who are prone to errors and mistakes, ones that help make it such a debatable subject.
The only thing I've noticed of benefit and I've no stats to back this up, but there appears to be a lot less diving with players knowing they're under review by a thousand cameras. The cameras are already there so use for strong and retrospective action, but leave the beautiful game alone and bin off VAR.
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Considering that the Premier League and its clubs are constantly hammered on here I wonder why everyone is so bothered about how VAR is used in England anyway. (perhaps there are closet supporters of Premier League teams on here) So long as its the referee who does the review by looking at the screen himself in the World Cup and Euros do we really give a excrement how it interrupts the game, affects outcomes or anything else.
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All that football needed was hawkeye for the ball crossing the line, that was it - it gave FIFA the guarantee there'd be no Lampard v v Germany moments again. Linesmen check for offsides and the ball going out of the play, the ref does the rest.
The handball rule and particularly the offside rule didn't need changing. That decision against Jesse Lingard for England v Holland told me straight away that football was going in the wrong direction.
Every time a goal is scored they pretty much look at VAR just in case.......
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I honestly think that in 5 years we'll be wondering how we ever managed without VAR. Trouble is it's exposed flaws in the rules like handball and I think they've been very reluctant to overrule referees. The other issue is the use of the clear and obvious rule. I'd say if it's not clear and obvious after two replays crack on. Not sure what the answer is for the offside issue. Saw someone suggest there has to be clear daylight between players, but they'll still be using the slide rule to check if there is. When they introduced it I envisaged something very similar to the goal line technology but it's turning into a mess
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goal line technology is a good thing, VAR in its present state is not! look how many times the VAR ref backs up the ref even when all the viewing public can see its an incorrect decision. One idea would be to have an ex pro footballer in the VAR box to explain to the VAR ref why a certain incident had accured. Unfortunately the powers to be are changing rules for the benefit of VAR and not the game.
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I honestly think that in 5 years we'll be wondering how we ever managed without VAR. Trouble is it's exposed flaws in the rules like handball and I think they've been very reluctant to overrule referees. The other issue is the use of the clear and obvious rule. I'd say if it's not clear and obvious after two replays crack on. Not sure what the answer is for the offside issue. Saw someone suggest there has to be clear daylight between players, but they'll still be using the slide rule to check if there is. When they introduced it I envisaged something very similar to the goal line technology but it's turning into a mess
The main problem with the offside rule is that they're not giving offside if they're not sure, so that the attack ends one way or another and then reviewing it. Then it has the ridiculous situation of offside by 2mm which is impossible to judge. If the linesman just made the decision as normal and then only got overruled when he was clearly wrong, such as a whole foot rather than a little toe, then the VAR would work. The whole handball thing is nonsense. If touching a hand is handball when you're attacking, then it has to be when defending too.
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