VAR Again

Quoted from Rick12

VAR is supposed to get it exactly right using a second eye which can be reviewed.The game is littered with razor decisions that officials got wrong and denied football clubs and national teams potential glory.Hence England in 2010 when Frank Lampards goal should of stood against Germany or Diego Maradonas hand ball against England in 1986 .

Hence its about improving the game for better eg results.Look at it from a similar angle. Why are athletes getting bigger, stronger faster.All about improving the fine margins which allows records to be broken which sports science provides.

Referees probably make lots of mistakes during games all of which directly or indirectly affect the result. You cannot have a perfect system without taking all the human element out of it, and where is the fun in that?

Referees are an important part of the game and they make mistakes just like players and managers. We don't want to end up with a sterilized game with a remote ref who may or may not make the correct decision.

Like a lot of "improvements " the law of unintended consequences wasn't thought through, and the authorities are trying themselves in knots and ruining the game as a spectacle in the top flight.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Referees probably make lots of mistakes during games all of which directly or indirectly affect the result. You cannot have a perfect system without taking all the human element out of it, and where is the fun in that?

Referees are an important part of the game and they make mistakes just like players and managers. We don't want to end up with a sterilized game with a remote ref who may or may not make the correct decision.

Like a lot of "improvements " the law of unintended consequences wasn't thought through, and the authorities are trying themselves in knots and ruining the game as a spectacle in the top flight.

Interesting points.Perhaps a system could be devised like tennis where players only have so many opportunities to use VAR above and beyond when the referee wants to use it for important decisions like goal incidents/red cards which can ultimately change the game.

Maybe we should have VAR to monitor VAR?

VAR to check the decisions and then another VAR to double check that the first VAR hasn't made a "human error"  

Quoted from Les Brechin

Maybe we should have VAR to monitor VAR?

VAR to check the decisions and then another VAR to double check that the first VAR hasn't made a "human error"  

Your never going to get perfection in nothing though.Only thing you can do is try  

Var is male masturbation

Pick any two supporters at random, stick them behind the screen and we would get the sensible decision!

The problem is that most of the debate has been lead by dull pundits in TV studios with hours to fill but little tactical insight to offer, so going over incorrect decisions and pointing out the controversies is a good way of keeping viewers.

Then you’ve got managers who fear their job is on the line and can be sacked following an incorrect decision. Sean Dyche is one of the worst for this. It’s purely self interest on their part but they make out the sport needed VAR for the good of the game.

Like anything, the argument was reduced down to “there’s so much money involved in the game now”, without anyone actually questioning what that meant at Prem level. Absolutely nothing, in reality. Common sense and rationality disappeared because they couldn’t stand the thought of losing money based on an incorrect decision somewhere.

It was said time & time again that once you started you wouldn’t be able to stop. Offside is offside even at 0.001mm. What’s “clear & obvious” when that’s entirely subjective? The pundits want the rules rewritten, but won’t tell you how it should be worded, because deep down everyone knows VAR is a massive mistake. It isn’t the rules, it isn’t the technology, it isn’t the procedure and cutting wait times, it’s the principle. The adult babies couldn’t comprehend being put out slightly, so they’ve ruined the game. And they were told it would happen.

VAR is a joke scrap it.

As the previous post says the authorities have ruined the game, and for what?

We still get contenious decisions, we still have managers complaining and we are still no nearer in finding a way to ensure every decision is correct -  because there isn't one.

Even if you could get every decision right just before a goal or non goal, managers will now say but what about the "foul" on the halfway line that wasnt given? Ifs buts and maybes happen all the time, but that is what makes the game such a wonderful spectacle.

Once you start getting VAR involved in everything you are on a slippery slope to nowhere; referees see the game in real time and to keep playing ultra slow motion replays of whether a ball brushed the arm of a defender who didnt do it on purpose is bordering on the insane.

I don't know why the managers, players and clubs just don't say "sorry, we are not putting up with this farce any longer" and refuse to play. The power ultimately resides in the clubs, or if they wont take action then fans need to stop going to games when allowed or perhaps more importantly from a financial aspect cancel their Sky sports packages.

I get the impression that football knows it has made a big mistake, but daren't admit it. For the good of the game do something about it.