VAR Again

VAR has become the talking point, over and above other topics.

It is similar to that old car insurance claim report:

“In the dark I drove into the wrong driveway and collided with a tree that I don’t have”.  😆😆

Quoted from grimsby pete

What about the Burnley v Bournemouth game on Saturday ?

Burnley winning 1-0 and on the attack the ball is cleared and Bournemouth score to make it 1-1,

Oh no they don't,

VAR decides a Bournemouth player handled the ball as it was cleared in their penalty box,

So goal disallowed play goes back to other end of the pitch for a penalty for Burnley,

Goal !!!!!!

So 2-0 to Burnley not 1-1,

Now if that happened to Town how would you feel ?

For me the ball hits it arm and although there is movement towards the ball I think he is trying to get his arm out the way (his arm doesn't actually move it by his side).  However im probably looking at it as a football player, and someone else will have a different opinion.  For me i'd like the rules to be changed to something like below, I think VAR can be a good thing I just think they don't have the software capable and they are checking everything which they weren't initially meant to be doing.

Offside - at the moment its still taking them abit too long to come to a decision (probably because of lack of software), and I hate this "big toe" being offside lark, lets introduce a threshold line in VAR for something like a foot wide and if the line of the attacker is beyond the line he is offside (this is to help when the attacker is leaning to make a run) or we stick to how it is or just let the lino do it.

Pitch side monitor - For me i'd move this to the opposite side of the dugout, I just think the refs are afraid of going over to the monitor incase the managers go on one.  Maybe if moved to the other side they might use it.

Quoted from grimsby pete

What about the Burnley v Bournemouth game on Saturday ?

Burnley winning 1-0 and on the attack the ball is cleared and Bournemouth score to make it 1-1,

Oh no they don't,

VAR decides a Bournemouth player handled the ball as it was cleared in their penalty box,

So goal disallowed play goes back to other end of the pitch for a penalty for Burnley,

Goal !!!!!!

So 2-0 to Burnley not 1-1,

Now if that happened to Town how would you feel ?

Probably as low as I felt when we got that late equaliser in the cup at Wimbledon which would have made it 2-2 and given us a replay at BP

Instead they got a free kick, came straight down the field as we were celebrating our "goal" and scored their third

Not that I'm still holding a grudge of course, about us missing out on being in the 6th round draw for the first time ever in my lifetime  

Quoted from mimma

I've got a couple of question about VAR.

It is now used around the world, so, do other leagues implement it the same way as us, and do they have the same issues that we do?

Has the FA looked at how it works abroad and tried to lean from them or, as I suspect, have they buried their heads in the sand, with a think they know best attitude?

I think we know the answer to that.

Do we really expect Mike "$hite" Dean or Michael "Surly" Oliver to admit they might need to look at a screen to make their decisions? As for David "Human Error" Coote, he must have done something right - he got added to the FIFA International list yesterday.

Our referees. lets face it are awful. Who else thought that John Moss's positional was woeful last night - continually getting between the West Ham players and the ball. If I was a skeptic, I'd almost think he was doing it on purpose. Did he afffect the outcome of the game? That depends on how you view the fact that he "shielded" the Liverpool players during the build up to their 2nd goal.

Until fans (the ones who pay their salaries) start to put pressure on the FA to question PGMOL and their need to consider a duty of care to the paying punters, nothing will change.

It's starting to look very similar to Italy 2011 and we all know what that led to.

Quoted from malkamalka

I think we know the answer to that.

Do we really expect Mike "$hite" Dean or Michael "Surly" Oliver to admit they might need to look at a screen to make their decisions? As for David "Human Error" Coote, he must have done something right - he got added to the FIFA International list yesterday.

Our referees. lets face it are awful. Who else thought that John Moss's positional was woeful last night - continually getting between the West Ham players and the ball. If I was a skeptic, I'd almost think he was doing it on purpose. Did he afffect the outcome of the game? That depends on how you view the fact that he "shielded" the Liverpool players during the build up to their 2nd goal.

Until fans (the ones who pay their salaries) start to put pressure on the FA to question PGMOL and their need to consider a duty of care to the paying punters, nothing will change.

It's starting to look very similar to Italy 2011 and we all know what that led to.

I cant remember, was it something like playing behind closed doors?

Was it something to do with Amanda Knox?

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Probably as low as I felt when we got that late equaliser in the cup at Wimbledon which would have made it 2-2 and given us a replay at BP

Instead they got a free kick, came straight down the field as we were celebrating our "goal" and scored their third

Not that I'm still holding a grudge of course, about us missing out on being in the 6th round draw for the first time ever in my lifetime  

Have you been given permission to hold a grudge from swin? He seems to be the grudge police. If I were you I would be expecting retribution at any moment.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Just watched Chelsea-Spurs. Bit of a stamp by LoCelso looked at by VAR for a couple of minutes decision no red card. 45 mins later they anounce they made a mistake and it should have been a red  You couldn't make it up if you tried. TIME TO DUMP IT,  its such a waste of time.

I still feel in the long run VAR will prove to be a good thing.Its not VAR thats causing the problem but human interpretation.

Quoted from Rick12

I still feel in the long run VAR will prove to be a good thing.Its not VAR thats causing the problem but human interpretation.

What is the answer to "human interpretation error"?

That is exactly what VAR was supposedly brought in for but unless you have a completely computerised system you are swopping one human interpretation for another, so what is the point?

Just stick with goal line technology and the on pitch officials.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

What is the answer to "human interpretation error"?

That is exactly what VAR was supposedly brought in for but unless you have a completely computerised system you are swopping one human interpretation for another, so what is the point?

Just stick with goal line technology and the on pitch officials.

VAR is supposed to get it exactly right using a second eye which can be reviewed.The game is littered with razor decisions that officials got wrong and denied football clubs and national teams potential glory.Hence England in 2010 when Frank Lampards goal should of stood against Germany or Diego Maradonas hand ball against England in 1986 .

Hence its about improving the game for better eg results.Look at it from a similar angle. Why are athletes getting bigger, stronger faster.All about improving the fine margins which allows records to be broken which sports science provides.