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nightrider
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2006 v 2019 - Who would win?

4th place finish for the 2006 team, easily making the playoffs, surely makes them odds on as the better team but baring in mind the play off talk, which 2006 players would make a composite team
Reddy and the two Jones would be the first names on the team sheet? After that ?
Reminder of 2006 Playoff Squad
Steve Mildenhall                                             Subs                        
Gary Croft                                                         Futcher  
Rob Jones                                                        Marc Goodfellow  
Justin Whittle                                                   Ciarán Toner
Tom Newey                                                       Jean-Paul Kalala
Junior Mendes                                                  Gary Cohen 
Paul Bolland
Curtis Woodhouse
Andy Parkinson
Michael Reddy
Gary Jones




Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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2006..... not even a contest really is it? Had a good side, reddy and jones worked so so well together that year
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Yes judging by our league position youre right. Im just asking the question  
I'm going off what I've seen and what I've read. The fans think we're almost there, a team to mount a serious challenge next season. The 2006 side failed to win promotion


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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We can argue the toss about certain players but I think we can all agree which manager we'd rather have  
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Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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How about 2018 v 2019


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How about 2018 v 2019


Dixon, Berrett and Clarke would certainly add something to the 2019 squad.


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2006 v 2019 - Who would win?

4th place finish for the 2006 team, easily making the playoffs, surely makes them odds on as the better team but baring in mind the play off talk, which 2006 players would make a composite team
Reddy and the two Jones would be the first names on the team sheet? After that ?
Reminder of 2006 Playoff Squad
Steve Mildenhall                                             Subs                        
Gary Croft                                                         Futcher  
Rob Jones                                                        Marc Goodfellow  
Justin Whittle                                                   Ciarán Toner
Tom Newey                                                       Jean-Paul Kalala
Junior Mendes                                                  Gary Cohen 
Paul Bolland
Curtis Woodhouse
Andy Parkinson
Michael Reddy
Gary Jones




Croft
Jones R
Whittle
Reddy
Jones G

would walk in as far as I am concerned

What a back three Jones R, Whittle and Ohman would make



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I think they'd get the better of Lincolns lot  

Still, they didn't win promotion....


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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I think players get fitter and more professional all the time. I reckon the current GTFC side could give the 1966 England side a run for their money. Rodger Bannister at his peak wouldn't even qualify for the Brtish Olympic team now.


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[quote=54]

Croft
Jones R
Whittle
Reddy
Jones G

would walk in as far as I am concerned

What a back three Jones R, Whittle and Ohman would make

Personally would add Bolland, believe our demise started the day he got his bad injury, and as good as Macca is think Mildenhall was the better keeper.

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When you look at the quality in that 2006 squad, and then remember how we never turned up at Cardiff it makes you angry at how poor we were that day.  Yes there was lots going on behind the scenes, but even if most of that team had been at 75% of their potential level we should've buried Cheltenham  
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When you look at the quality in that 2006 squad, and then remember how we never turned up at Cardiff it makes you angry at how poor we were that day.  Yes there was lots going on behind the scenes, but even if most of that team had been at 75% of their potential level we should've buried Cheltenham  


Indeed. We'd not lost to them in 4 games; drew 1 and won 3 including two successive wins at their place. Cheltenham didn't play particularly well at Cardiff and if we'd stepped on it we would have won. Sure there'd be nerves and stuff which you can't account for, but most of the sub-standard performance came down to leadership, or lack of it.


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The final wasn't out the blue though, we'd been stumbling ever since Reddy got injured (I think it was 2 wins in the final 9 league games).

We should've had a bloody penalty though!


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[quote=54]

Croft
Jones R
Whittle
Reddy
Jones G

would walk in as far as I am concerned

What a back three Jones R, Whittle and Ohman would make

Personally would add Bolland, believe our demise started the day he got his bad injury, and as good as Macca is think Mildenhall was the better keeper.



Curtis Woodhouse would pìss it as well. He was better than League Two at the time. A 2005/6 Kalala would be a close call too.

Slade shafted us for his own benefit in that final I have no doubt. I’d got over it and anyone was better than Bignot when he returned, but he has to go down as one of Town’s all time villains.

If he ever gets another job in professional football I’d be very surprised.


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I think this team at it's peak would beat them. Plays better football and is definitely fitter and more technically gifted overall. Plus, everyone forget during that season we didn't beat a single team in the top four - all who played better football than us - and we were ultimately undone by Cheltenham, another better footballing side.


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That 2006 side was dominant for large parts of the season, if you get chance have a look at the goals video from 05/06 that is on YouTube.  Especially up until about January/February time we were unplayable at times.  

I hated what Slade did in his second spell here but he built a side that season that was tailored to do one thing, win.  Everything was done to perfection, the side gelled and we had a handful of players operating at least one division below their natural abilities.  

The Reddy injury did us in but it was more the persistence in playing him than anything else that cost us.  Gary Cohen was chomping at the bit to take his place but Slade persisted and then even tried Junior Mendes up top, I think Marc Goodfellow got a game up there too!

January was a poor transfer window too.  Curtis Woodhouse was a good individual but he never really fitted in with the team ethos in my opinion and displaced Ciaran Toner who was building a good pairing with Paul Bolland.  JPKK had gone well off the boil by Xmas.  Ben Futcher wasn't a patch on Simon Ramsden.  Junior Mendes and Marc Goodfellow were just poor signings all round, Mendes especially.  

At its best, the 2006 side would probably wipe the floor with the current crop.  Mildenhall was a superb goalkeeper who commanded his area and had fine distribution.  That defence was dominant and although we looked good on Saturday up front, for large parts of this season we've looked toothless.  Our strength is in midfield but I think Bolland would be more of a match in terms of energy for Clifton and Hess.  At the back we look vastly improved but Ohman would have his hands full with Reddy who would have the legs on every defender we've got.  I think Gary Jones would be too cute for them all too.

That's not a slur on this side, because I think it's got the makings of something special.  But when in flow, 2006 were unstoppable.  
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If you actually watch the highlights of the 2006 play-off final we weren't actually that bad ([url=https://goo.gl/QH4xSv]some very low quality highlights here if you want to judge for yourself [/url]). Still had a bunch of chances and were mugged out of clear penalty. I mean yeah definitely wasn't a good performance compared to how well that team had shown it could play earlier in the season, but I'd put that down to Reddy only being half fit and Slade being more bothered about moving to Yeovil than preparing for the playoff final.


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No, we weren't as good as everyone remembers especially against the better teams. Slade's promotion record speaks for itself - he has never got anyone over the line, including us.


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No, we weren't as good as everyone remembers especially against the better teams.


We were alright against Spurs


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We were alright against Spurs


We played really well against Newcastle too. Had it not been for an unlucky slip as Bolly went out to close the winner we probably would have taken them to extra time.


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No, we weren't as good as everyone remembers especially against the better teams. Slade's promotion record speaks for itself - he has never got anyone over the line, including us.


In his defence, how many seasons was he expected to actually get anyone promoted?

First season here was a rebuild.  Second season we fell short.
At Yeovil he wasn't expected to get promotion, never in a million years but got them to a play-off final.
Brighton he was firefighting against relegation and succeeded.
Orient he punched above his weight.  Kept them up with another fire fighting job, achieved finishes of 7th, 20th and 7th in League One before taking them to within a penalty shoot-out of the Championship.  They've dropped like a stone since.
At Cardiff he was fighting the tide and achieved finishes of 10th and 8th in the Championship despite having his squad cut to meet financial constraints.  
Charlton and Coventry were both basket case clubs.
2nd spell here I'm not sure how much expectation was on him to achieve promotion as opposed to offload the high earners.  

He got it wrong here, absolutely wrong and he cost us so much momentum in his relatively short spell.  But I'm not sure we can beat him with the 'never got a promotion' stick when he's probably only had one realistic chance of achieving it.
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In his defence, how many seasons was he expected to actually get anyone promoted?

First season here was a rebuild.  Second season we fell short.
At Yeovil he wasn't expected to get promotion, never in a million years but got them to a play-off final.
Brighton he was firefighting against relegation and succeeded.
Orient he punched above his weight.  Kept them up with another fire fighting job, achieved finishes of 7th, 20th and 7th in League One before taking them to within a penalty shoot-out of the Championship.  They've dropped like a stone since.
At Cardiff he was fighting the tide and achieved finishes of 10th and 8th in the Championship despite having his squad cut to meet financial constraints.  
Charlton and Coventry were both basket case clubs.
2nd spell here I'm not sure how much expectation was on him to achieve promotion as opposed to offload the high earners.  

He got it wrong here, absolutely wrong and he cost us so much momentum in his relatively short spell.  But I'm not sure we can beat him with the 'never got a promotion' stick when he's probably only had one realistic chance of achieving it.


No it was of my opinion when he came that after the biggest job of his career to date at cardiff, he had accepted two bad clubs at the time who were already in trouble, coventry fans were not happy with his management and he probably shouldve taken a break from the game, I bet he’ll look back and regret not having longer out after cardiff.

Then he came here and if you think about it he had the mentality of taking over another troubled relegation side when at that time we were actually fine. He focused on playing for results and got rid of long term prospects for short term solutions.
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That 2006 side had two goes at promotion and failed - ultimately they weren't good enough
Yet on paper every player is better than what we have now.


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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How is this even a question?
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