We are too nice and easy to play against,

I think we are too nice to play against, we have very little physical presence in midfield and up front.
Our squad is full of lightweight and small players who are easily bossed on the pitch.
I think most managers know that if they don’t concede they beat us.

Well even i could tell you that if a team doesnt concede they’ve got a chance of winning. However why do you not post when we win? During our good run you were absent? Yes we are too nice, we need someone on at the ref, we need to go down.... yet we have one of the worst disciplinary records in the league

Quoted from Yoda

I think we are too nice to play against, we have very little physical presence in midfield and up front.
Our squad is full of lightweight and small players who are easily bossed on the pitch.
I think most managers know that if they don’t concede they beat us.

Yoda - talk balderdash you do. Never when we win you post. Off urine why don’t you?

I haven’t posted when we have won because i have always thought it was more luck than judgement.
I really want us to win but feel we are a poor small side and soft touch.
I have been to 5 games this season and seen us score 1 penalty and lose every game convincingly including Macclesfield.
Fenty is the issue no investment and boy does it shoe.

Quoted from Yoda

I haven’t posted when we have won because i have always thought it was more luck than judgement.
I really want us to win but feel we are a poor small side and soft touch.
I have been to 5 games this season and seen us score 1 penalty and lose every game convincingly including Macclesfield.
Fenty is the issue no investment and boy does it shoe.

Is that some hip phrase used by kids these days? Is it like 'dem chunes iz well shoe'

Quoted from Hagrid

Well even i could tell you that if a team doesnt concede they’ve got a chance of winning. However why do you not post when we win? During our good run you were absent? Yes we are too nice, we need someone on at the ref, we need to go down.... yet we have one of the worst disciplinary records in the league

This will take a year or two to work. What TF do you expect with no money. It’s a million times better than anything served up since we went down.

Go watch The Voice

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

This will take a year or two to work. What TF do you expect with no money. It’s a million times better than anything served up since we went down.

Go watch The Voice

You’ve quoted the wrong post pal.

Were a team in transition so expect ups and downs along the way. Slow and steady will win the race with MJ in charge we're in safe hands.

It's clear that he knows what he wants and will build a team to suit just that.

January and summer transfer window should see us right 😎

It's very clear to us all about the need for additional firepower, MJ will know this also. I trust him to get someone who fits the team instead of buying for the sake of it.

Come on all let's push onto next game and give it our all 💪

Ask Tranmere if we're too easy to play against.

Ask Exeter if we're too easy to play against.

Ask Crystal Palace if we're too easy to play against.

Ask any striker in this division whether James McKeown is too easy to score against.

I get that there will naturally be some frustration on a night after a defeat - particularly if it was against a local rival and a sequence of defeats - but we've lost to two teams gunning for automatic promotion and a team near that bottom but whose form has been better than that.

We've just signed some new players, we're giving younger players a chance and a philosophy like that won't suddenly work overnight.

This club has been in the doldrums for too long now. You don't just emerge from a pit of despair with a four-game winning run. It'll take seasons to truly turn this ship round.

Quoted from RichMariner

Ask Tranmere if we're too easy to play against.

Ask Exeter if we're too easy to play against.

Ask Crystal Palace if we're too easy to play against.

Ask any striker in this division whether James McKeown is too easy to score against.

I get that there will naturally be some frustration on a night after a defeat - particularly if it was against a local rival and a sequence of defeats - but we've lost to two teams gunning for automatic promotion and a team near that bottom but whose form has been better than that.

We've just signed some new players, we're giving younger players a chance and a philosophy like that won't suddenly work overnight.

This club has been in the doldrums for too long now. You don't just emerge from a pit of despair with a four-game winning run. It'll take seasons to truly turn this ship round.

I know I’m banging on a very old drum, but how many more seasons does this regime need?

Failure to recruit strikers has been an ongoing problem, and then when we did get one, we let him go.

How long are you giving Jolley?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I know I’m banging on a very old drum, but how many more seasons does this regime need?

Failure to recruit strikers has been an ongoing problem, and then when we did get one, we let him go.

Maybe start another thread with ideas for change??.

We do show glimmers of promise but would like to see it more often
We do work hard but sometimes like yesterday we offer very little threat going forward especially with the long ball
We missed the zip of Clifton with Hess in midfield and although Cardwell runs and runs I don’t think he is the answer
Most Lincoln fans yesterday said we looked good in patches and tried to do the right thing but they where not worried about us scoring
And we where to good to go down
Only 7 points now from relegation zone with  2 more v tuff matches this week
Think MJ demands 100% and we have young players who try bloody hard
But we just need to increase in confidence and if possible sign some quality striker from somewhere
Come on town!!

Bearing in mind the many comments about our lack of funds, compared to other teams in our league and saying we need need a quality striker I would imagine that is going to be quite difficult for us to sign a striker of that ilk.

I'm guessing that there are many more teams in League 2 who are also after a quality striker, and probably these teams will have more funds that us.

Having said that, MJ's signings from Sweden look to have promise, so maybe he has a striker in mind from that neck of the woods.

A final comment.  I'm now 73 years old and have been a Town fan since 1951 and I don't get how some fans expect us to win every match, and when we don't, out come the knives.  If all our supporters could be 'supporters' through thick and thin, and look back at some really unbelievable matches that most people thought we had no chance to win, but did, so lets look forward and support and sing for the Mariners and see where it takes us this season.  I have faith in MJ, all the backroom staff and all the players, so COYT, lets av it and be the Mighty Mariners once again.

How many teams in this league have “quality strikers” I’d suggest a handful half a dozen at best and one emerges like Stockley they get snapped up.

There is a saying “if ifs and ands where pots and pans” we’ve got what we’ve got and though we’ll finish lower mid table at best this season we have something that’s been missing for over a decade ..... a mid/long term plan. It’s very clear what Jolley is doing and IMHO he’s doing it well.

The manager will be doing everything he can to improve us up front but the reality is that we won’t be getting a L2 match fit 25 goal a season striker anytime soon.

The best we can hope for is an import, someone from U23 or non league or in fact do what we’re already doing try to develop our own.

Are we too nice to play against? Who give a sh1t in reality that means nothing.

Quoted from 123614

Bearing in mind the many comments about our lack of funds, compared to other teams in our league and saying we need need a quality striker I would imagine that is going to be quite difficult for us to sign a striker of that ilk.

I'm guessing that there are many more teams in League 2 who are also after a quality striker, and probably these teams will have more funds that us.

Having said that, MJ's signings from Sweden look to have promise, so maybe he has a striker in mind from that neck of the woods.

A final comment.  I'm now 73 years old and have been a Town fan since 1951 and I don't get how some fans expect us to win every match, and when we don't, out come the knives.  If all our supporters could be 'supporters' through thick and thin, and look back at some really unbelievable matches that most people thought we had no chance to win, but did, so lets look forward and support and sing for the Mariners and see where it takes us this season.  I have faith in MJ, all the backroom staff and all the players, so COYT, lets av it and be the Mighty Mariners once again.

I was quite surprised to see that we've still got the seventh best home attendance average in League Two even though our support seems a little bit flat on a regular basis. Not sure why we can't compete financially, and if we can't, the reason why needs addressing. In the summer I won't be accepting this "let's get to fifty points and see what happens" defeatist line that always gets trotted out. Three years back in the EFL is time enough for the fans to expect some kind of promotion challenge next season. If in our present guise we haven't got the werewithal to fund it based on play off spot home gate income, then the powers that be need to get their thinking caps on and break that well worn cycle. We've got a sound base of a squad that needs three or four additions in key areas with that extra bit of quality, pace and physicality, playmaker, goalscorer and pace out wide. More of the same hum drum excuses and "competitive budget" lines from the board won't cut it. They've had plenty of time to sort out how to break the groundhog day of not being able to compete for better players in the summer window..

Quoted from Bigdog

I was quite surprised to see that we've still got the seventh best home attendance average in League Two even though our support seems a little bit flat on a regular basis. Not sure why we can't compete financially, and if we can't, the reason why needs addressing. I won't be accepting this "let's get to fifty points and see what happens" defeatist line that always gets trotted out. Three years back in the EFL is time enough for the fans to expect some kind of promotion challenge next season. If in our present guise we haven't got the werewithal to fund it based on play off spot home gate income, then the pwers that be need to get their thinking caps on. We've got a sound base of a squad that needs three or four additions in key areas with that extra bit of quality, pace and physicality, playmaker, goalscorer and pace out wide. More of the same hum drum excuses and "competitive budget" lines from the board won't cut it. They've had plenty of time to sort out how to break the groundhog day of not being able to compete for better players in the summer window..

Four managers in 3 seasons hasn’t helped.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

How many teams in this league have “quality strikers” I’d suggest a handful half a dozen at best and one emerges like Stockley they get snapped up.

There is a saying “if ifs and ands where pots and pans” we’ve got what we’ve got and though we’ll finish lower mid table at best this season we have something that’s been missing for over a decade ..... a mid/long term plan. It’s very clear what Jolley is doing and IMHO he’s doing it well.

The manager will be doing everything he can to improve us up front but the reality is that we won’t be getting a L2 match fit 25 goal a season striker anytime soon.

The best we can hope for is an import, someone from U23 or non league or in fact do what we’re already doing try to develop our own.

Are we too nice to play against? Who give a sh1t in reality that means nothing.

I do think we are easy meat for any side with a half decent midfield. We defend well but apart from some patches in some games we have been very poor going forward. At times it has been reminiscent of Hurst’s days, sinking deeper and deeper and just letting sides dominate us. The way we play is part of the problem.

The other part? Yes we do need a reliable striker. Just looking at the highlights from yesterday. Twice we had the ball pinging around their 6 yard box first half just ready for a proper striker to get his backside or something end on it and over the line.  I think there is too much acceptance that strikers always cost a fortune. Some do, some don’t. How much was Podge?

But just going back to the way we play, the manager is hanging his hat on 3-5-2 but we don’t have a 2, 1 and a bit at the most. And the 5 does not get enough players in the box often enough. Clifton is perhaps an honourable exception, otherwise we are much more 5-3-2 or even 8-0-2 at times.

All this “work in progress” hopeful talk is not going to be much good in the National League. Work in progress is fine but we need points in the meantime. However it is looked at and however many excuses are made about the budgets and quality of the oppositions, 360 minutes  without a goal does not lie.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I do think we are easy meat for any side with a half decent midfield. We defend well but apart from some patches in some games we have been very poor going forward. At times it has been reminiscent of Hurst’s days, sinking deeper and deeper and just letting sides dominate us. The way we play is part of the problem.

The other part? Yes we do need a reliable striker. Just looking at the highlights from yesterday. Twice we had the ball pinging around their 6 yard box first half just ready for a proper striker to get his backside or something end on it and over the line.  I think there is too much acceptance that strikers always cost a fortune. Some do, some don’t. How much was Podge?

But just going back to the way we play, the manager is hanging his hat on 3-5-2 but we don’t have a 2, 1 and a bit at the most. And the 5 does not get enough players in the box often enough. Clifton is perhaps an honourable exception, otherwise we are much more 5-3-2 or even 8-0-2 at times.

All this “work in progress” hopeful talk is not going to be much good in the National League. Work in progress is fine but we need points in the meantime. However it is looked at and however many excuses are made about the budgets and quality of the oppositions, 360 minutes  without a goal does not lie.

Do you really think we’ll get relegated?

Quoted from chaos33

How long are you giving Jolley?

I think a lot depends on how many more games we lose on the trot (up to 4 now although some won't want to include Palace) and how many more matches where we fail to score.
At the moment only a 0-0 will break the losing habit

Jolley is well into his transfer window so no excuses  and it's important therefore that the new players fit in (and make a difference) asap

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Do you really think we’ll get relegated?

No goals - no points (or 1 for a 0-0) cannot go on indefinitely. Who are we going to score against? MKDons, FGR? Possibly but it will take a change of style to do it and the manager seems dead set on this one. I’ll let others work out the details but if we do not get 4 points from these two games things begin to look worrying when it will be February already and Macc are enjoying the Sol honeymoon. Slides are harder to stop than climbs.

We do not expect to win every game it would be nice to loose 3-2 for a change instead of something nil.
Or put some teams under some concerted pressure we invariably don’t have a shot on target in the first half.