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Quoted from Posh Harry
As usual it’s all about opinions some of which I have agreed with some which I don’t.

Firstly the negatives. I thought Thomas was poor today. First time I have seen him live and I am sure he is a better player than that. I get that he was feeding off scraps but when the ball did get to him it didn’t stick and should have made more movement. Hooper, well I am not going to get on the bandwagon but clearly things didn’t go well for him today (I haven’t seen him as much of many of you so just going on what I saw today). Overall I think he did ok defensively (someone called out Hendrie being made to look like a numpty but think they were watching a different game to me). Saying that, Initially from the other end of the pitch it looked like Hooper was fouled for the goal but highlights show it was a weak effort. Going forward, again he did well to put himself in positions to supply the crosses on 2 obvious  occasions. He was wanting someone to make the run to the near post, they made the opposite. On another day he would have been a hero by supplying to crosses for goals and we would have kept a clean sheet. Fine margins as these things often tend to be. I don’t buy the fact that he wasn’t working hard. I don’t think his running style etc helps. But that is just my opinion.

Obvious other negative is that although we got in good positions, we didn’t create anything clear cut and so obviously you are going to struggle to score goals.

Positives. My god we are a better team than the one I saw at Cambridge last year. For those who were at both games, you will know what I mean.

M.J. some people saying he got subs wrong. I don’t agree (although Vernam instead of cook might of been better). Whitemore was injured so no choice there. Cambridge were the better team in the first half, but only just. It wasn’t a terrible half, but not great either. They had the better of the chances and mainly controlled the middle of the park with Rose and Clifton working hard but not getting much out of the game. At the beginning of the second half this got even worse with their number 6 having more and more room and having more of an influence. Bringing off Pringle (who worked hard with little impact) and bringing on Hessenthaler was a great tactical sub imo. It allowed us to take control of the midfield and we soon became the much better team, playing on the front foot. Freed up Rose who was excellent second half, and both him and Hessenthaler got forward more and more and we looked dangerous although obviously not having the clinical finish needed at any level of football.

Thought RHJ did well down the right which is where our main threat came from in the second half (including Hooper) and also Embleton worked his socks off and when he ran at them it frightened the life out of them, but just couldn’t finish it off. Don’t think either penalty shouts were penalties. I was right in line with the second one and don’t think it was a blatant dive. He was touched (same as the first one) but not enough to warrant a penalty I don’t think. Footballers nowadays go down when touched inside the box. Whether that’s right or not is a different arguement (it’s not right imo and idiots like Shearer saying it is should be ashamed of themselves) but that’s what happens in the modern game.

A few of the usual WUM’s and doom merchants have been on as usual after a defeat, but guess what, it was a game of football where both teams were in it and either could have feasibly won the game. That’s why we’re in the same league. Reports of earlier games indicate similar, Crewe, Colchester, Exeter, all recent, and all could have gone either way. I think we have got enough not to be in the position we were last year, but also can’t see more than mid table at best. Jolley has had one transfer window, we were willing to spend money in the last one, so there has to be the possibility of bringing in reinforcements going forward.

Gutted to lose a game were a draw would have been a fairer result, but that’s football.

UTFM


Agree with most of that. Except I'd be more critical of Hooper. No one is completely bad all the time, but he does stand out as being a non-performer in the main in my eyes.


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The following is a great example of what annoys/ perplexes me about hooper.
2 or 3 times in the second half Thomas ended up on hoppers side with the ball. Hooper had obviously been told that when this happens your job is to assume the centre forwards position. This he did by making the same arcing run to assume the same position, but I never got the impression he was sprinting full pelt to get into position it LOOKED like it was at 80% .now that may be misleading and he is giving it his all but having coached athletes I don't get that impression with him.it also looked like the whole thing was done by rote. I.e. Uhhh wes is over with me, right so the boss says I have to run into the middle, ok I'll start running now to the same position, even if the centre half is already occupying that areas. I.e. There's no imagination or footballing intelligence he just does it coz that's what he's been told to do.theres no darting little runs or no inventiveness, he looks like he doesn't really know what he should be doing.
And yet he scores those belters at fgr. Frustrating, very frustrating
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Agree with most of what you have said Ivano

BUT

Should a professional footballer who is trying to score a goal have to be told where to run ?

Thats our problem apart from Thomas who gets little support every week we do not have one on the books. who knows where the goal is,

If  A Rose is not ready yet we just need a John Lewis type to hold the ball up and play Thomas in,

That would not cost as much money as buying a 20+ goal striker not that there is any chance of us splashing out £100,000+ for one.



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Just so bored being a town fan atm , yes we aren't losing every game like we did with slade and jolley is a likeable man but my god its frustrating and hard to watch.

Its like we are on a path to nowere as a club atm ,the whole stadium thing right now is a joke and i get the feeling that we are just destined for absolutely nowt under the should i say lack of guidance and ambition from the top.

Now i must say the manager isnt making things any easier right now , its his signings his team and i cant see any real sense of a team capable of doing anything other than flirting with the bottom half of the table , he doesn't get a free pass for me as he has had his honeymoon period, nice chap but results are so inconsistent that he has to show is he can deliver on the pitch.

Just so bewildered about whats going on from top to bottom right now.


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Check out the videos of Cambridge's Reggie Lamb playing for Carlisle last year. He has great touch, change of pace and scores a variety of goals from a range of positions. Lots of L2 experience and versatility. He gave our defence the runaround for 70 min. yesterday.  For some reason he chose debt ridden Cambridge. He was in Sweden around 2015. Was he on the radar?
Hooper is 2 years younger and one of too many 'developing' players. Lambe is naturally gifted and younger than Woolford. He may be a journeyman but as an off the shelf option he looked very accomplished at this level. Our mix is not right. We need at least two players who are confident and 'good to go'.

Meanwhile........... play Vernam.
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Cambridge no6 midfielder who sits in front of their back 4 was excellent for them every time I have seen him play.
He demands the ball all the time and once Cambridge get going all their play comes from him moving the ball around.
There are not a bad side.

On Saturday Cooper messed up their full backs were causing havoc and their goal came from the full backs cross.
Cooper told them at half time to concentrate on defensive duties and stop pushing forward and the team needed to play narrower.

Then he gave the players a massive rollocking after the game when it was his tactics,they would have scored again if the full backs had kept pushing on.
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Quoted from Posh Harry
As usual it’s all about opinions some of which I have agreed with some which I don’t.

Firstly the negatives. I thought Thomas was poor today. First time I have seen him live and I am sure he is a better player than that. I get that he was feeding off scraps but when the ball did get to him it didn’t stick and should have made more movement. Hooper, well I am not going to get on the bandwagon but clearly things didn’t go well for him today (I haven’t seen him as much of many of you so just going on what I saw today). Overall I think he did ok defensively (someone called out Hendrie being made to look like a numpty but think they were watching a different game to me). Saying that, Initially from the other end of the pitch it looked like Hooper was fouled for the goal but highlights show it was a weak effort. Going forward, again he did well to put himself in positions to supply the crosses on 2 obvious  occasions. He was wanting someone to make the run to the near post, they made the opposite. On another day he would have been a hero by supplying to crosses for goals and we would have kept a clean sheet. Fine margins as these things often tend to be. I don’t buy the fact that he wasn’t working hard. I don’t think his running style etc helps. But that is just my opinion.

Obvious other negative is that although we got in good positions, we didn’t create anything clear cut and so obviously you are going to struggle to score goals.

Positives. My god we are a better team than the one I saw at Cambridge last year. For those who were at both games, you will know what I mean.

M.J. some people saying he got subs wrong. I don’t agree (although Vernam instead of cook might of been better). Whitemore was injured so no choice there. Cambridge were the better team in the first half, but only just. It wasn’t a terrible half, but not great either. They had the better of the chances and mainly controlled the middle of the park with Rose and Clifton working hard but not getting much out of the game. At the beginning of the second half this got even worse with their number 6 having more and more room and having more of an influence. Bringing off Pringle (who worked hard with little impact) and bringing on Hessenthaler was a great tactical sub imo. It allowed us to take control of the midfield and we soon became the much better team, playing on the front foot. Freed up Rose who was excellent second half, and both him and Hessenthaler got forward more and more and we looked dangerous although obviously not having the clinical finish needed at any level of football.

Thought RHJ did well down the right which is where our main threat came from in the second half (including Hooper) and also Embleton worked his socks off and when he ran at them it frightened the life out of them, but just couldn’t finish it off. Don’t think either penalty shouts were penalties. I was right in line with the second one and don’t think it was a blatant dive. He was touched (same as the first one) but not enough to warrant a penalty I don’t think. Footballers nowadays go down when touched inside the box. Whether that’s right or not is a different arguement (it’s not right imo and idiots like Shearer saying it is should be ashamed of themselves) but that’s what happens in the modern game.

A few of the usual WUM’s and doom merchants have been on as usual after a defeat, but guess what, it was a game of football where both teams were in it and either could have feasibly won the game. That’s why we’re in the same league. Reports of earlier games indicate similar, Crewe, Colchester, Exeter, all recent, and all could have gone either way. I think we have got enough not to be in the position we were last year, but also can’t see more than mid table at best. Jolley has had one transfer window, we were willing to spend money in the last one, so there has to be the possibility of bringing in reinforcements going forward.

Gutted to lose a game were a draw would have been a fairer result, but that’s football.

UTFM


Thanks PH for a very balanced post. I particularly agree with the point that many of the recent games could have gone either way, including those that we won. I’ve been to six games recently which I think is enough to form a considered opinion:
Stevenage away - overall dissapointing, some signs of good play, we were pressing them towards the end and looked more like the home team with them looking dangerous on the break. Draw would have been fair.
Morecambe home - not convincing even when we were ahead and simply folded defensively. Apparently this had been a common theme in previous games. Thankfully this is a problem that seems to have been addressed. Probably didn’t deserve much out of the game, but if Thomas’s effort ad gone in instead of hitting the bar we’d have been 2-0 with our tails up, so again could have gone either way.
Missed Carlisle away due to family commitments, can’t really comment on the highlights but it looked like a hard earned win against the odds.
Port Vale home - a much better more confident performance with some very nice football played, but if their defender hadn’t played that sloppy back pass to let Thomas in in the 1st minute I suspect it could have been a very different story.
Exeter home - a very good game against 2 evenly matched teams both playing good football but negating each other with well organised defence. Draw a fair result, and very encouraging against one of the top teams.
Colchester home - again a tight game and for once we got the all important break. I thought we deserved the win if only for the quality of the goal that I’ve taken great pleasure in showing to many friends, acquaintances and even complete strangers, just to prove that I’m not completely mad being a Town supporter but probably achieving the exact opposite effect.
Missed Crewe away due to drinking commitments.
Cambridge away - completely agree with PH. Unluck to lose, and I also agree with MJ’s comments re the ref influencing the outcome. Most of their dangerous moments came from dodgy free kicks awarded in very dangerous positions and although it looks as if Hooper wasn’t fouled for their goal, I’m pretty sure that based on the evidence of other decisions, if the same thing happened at the other end it would have been a free kick to the defender,
So on balance, I’m fairly happy with the way were progressing apart from the obvious lack of ability to convert (I don’t think we’re the only team in the league with this problem). I’m enjoying some of the football we’re playing and I think we have enough quality in both the team and the management team to stay up, keep building and go into next season with a side that’s right in the mix for promotion.
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