The reality

The reality?

The reality is that in desperation the club appointed someone with no management experience apart from in Sweden where his win rate was 22%. But he was “highly regarded” as a coach by such luminaries as Sean Dyche. Oh, and he had won the Central League Cup with Burnley Under-23s. By the way, Morecambe has won that trophy as well. Nevertheless we avoided relegation and he got praise for turning things around. If you look back at those games we played crap and were saved only by other sides being crappier plus some nerveless penalties. He delivered? Possibly, but I have a feeling any reasonable new face would have done as much - if one could have been found.

However Jolley talks well, made a big social impression visiting the sick and the birthdays, moving to the area, 2 year contracts for players. His interviews seemed different at first to the Slade monotony. He had a budget and brought in what we all felt were reasonable if not brilliant signings. We were sucked it.  The reality was that we could not get anyone else. Nobody else wanted the job. We know why that is but we made a virtue out of a vice by talking up the Jolley Revolution on the Fishy almost as much as did the man himself. Some people are still doing that. But then ......

The reality is the bloke cannot manage and neither can his assistant. Let’s not beat about the bush here. Jolley failed abjectly in Sweden and he is doing the same here. Look at his CV, he is only 41 but he has never stayed in a job very long, football or non-football. Why?

He did not sign the most important player a side needs - a striker who will pop in a goal when you are playing badly. Don’t say he tried - either he didn’t try hard enough or he didn’t think it mattered. Even if players turned him down he still mismanaged his budget by signing non-descripts who occasionally get a wonder goal.Those interviews where he talked about Cook being a striker were eyewash. If he believed it he was a fool, if he didn’t then we are the fools. Now we find he cannot handle his senior players and cannot get the side to do what he wants even though most were his signings.

Jolley may  be a very nice chap, I’ve nothing against him personally as I don’t know him. I have seen and met a good few managers and coaches at BP over the years though, and what he is doing is not impressive. I don’t think he is a bad coach, he isn’t thick, he’s got the badges, he talks very well but he simply does not know how to manage a squad of men and organise a side to win games. And as a coach is he better than Neil Woods? Smarter suit maybe, but ability? I very much doubt it.

He got the job because we were desperate. In a decent shortlist with one or two experienced managers he would never have been appointed. But we fell for  “Hey look at us, we are the future, we have a manager with real credentials and contacts to rejuvenate the whole club, let us embrace the glorious revolution, get the 12th man down to BP and cheer on the lads.”

So here we are with the revolution in tatters within a couple of months and a manager who appears clueless on how to fix his dream. Please do not tell me he needs more time. It is his own daft fault we cannot sign the player the team definitely needs until January so brace yourselves for a rough ride until then at least even if he is sacked. Unless there is a remarkable turnaround there will be very, very few goals. The odd goalless draw or 1-0 win is the best we can expect. Maybe a new manager could do the walk with this squad but anyone with the strength and experience to do that will run foul of the immovable objects in the Boardroom when they ask for money. That is assuming anyone wants the job. Otherwise we are looking at the talk and the Emperor’s new clothes for a bit longer.

Nothing we can do except put up with what JF decides or vote with feet and leave him to it.

That’s the reality. Pass that bottle over please, sorrows to drown.

Quoted from VinnyGTFC

Last season when looking for a manager Micheal Jolleys name came up. He  was a risky yet interesting shot. Most fans liked the sound of him.
John Fenty took a punt on him. The man delivered and to the delight of most fans Jolley remained manager.
Now there are big shouts to replace this man without giving him the chance to sort the mess out and calls for Fenty to go despite doing what 80% of supporters would have done.
Don't get it!!!

In the main, his players and his tactics so his mess, I am sure most would like him to turn it around but nearly a quarter of the season has gone so can he do it?

Quoted from Perkins

Spot on, coaching qualification is based 90% on theoretical situations within a classroom environment and not on the training ground. Management is a totally different animal which means inspiring confidence and getting the best out of players by means of man management, both of which re not happening at the moment.
I like Jolley as a person and i think he's an honest guy, but at the moment he's lacking the necessary skills required for a manager.

I can see how you differentiate between a manager and a coach but in most countries in European Football ( and even amongst the media in this country ) those two expressions are synonymous with each other. People who run football teams around the world are described as " coach " or " head coach ".

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

The reality?

moving to the area,

Has he though?

Quoted from rancido

I can see how you differentiate between a manager and a coach but in most countries in European Football ( and even amongst the media in this country ) those two expressions are synonymous with each other. People who run football teams around the world are described as " coach " or " head coach ".

Yes, i understand what you are saying, and we are probably one of a few countries that still refer to a "coach" as a Manager, but that is gradually changing due to the influx of foreign managers into our game,  but my point is that you can have all the "coaching" qualifications in the world, but if you don't posses the abilities to "man-manage" and inspire your players and install confidence in them you get what we've got, an uninspiring team with a total lack of confidence.

Top post TheRonRaffertyFanClub     

Jolley performed miracles last season no doubt, so why is he struggling so badly this season, I can only think that those players last season were either better quality players or were stronger minded, to me it's about budget which proves why we couldn't bring in a quality striker.

The reality for me is I'd like Fenty to make a statement on how our budget compares to others in the league, I'm hearing a bottom quarter budget, if that is correct, we are were we are because of that but that won't happen because that'll mean Fenty and his yes men have to go.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Top post TheRonRaffertyFanClub     

Jolley performed miracles last season no doubt, so why is he struggling so badly this season, I can only think that those players last season were either better quality players or were stronger minded, to me it's about budget which proves why we couldn't bring in a quality striker.

The reality for me is I'd like Fenty to make a statement on how our budget compares to others in the league, I'm hearing a bottom quarter budget, if that is correct, we are were we are because of that but that won't happen because that'll mean Fenty and his yes men have to go.

If that's true then we are in deep excrement.

Quoted from VinnyGTFC

Last season when looking for a manager Micheal Jolleys name came up. He  was a risky yet interesting shot. Most fans liked the sound of him.
John Fenty took a punt on him. The man delivered and to the delight of most fans Jolley remained manager.
Now there are big shouts to replace this man without giving him the chance to sort the mess out and calls for Fenty to go despite doing what 80% of supporters would have done.
Don't get it!!!

After Phil Brown, John Askey and possibly one other turned him down.

Everyone is only as good as their last dozen results. Look at Claudio Ranieri, a god one season and then sacked halfway through the next one!

Quoted from GrimRob

Everyone is only as good as their last dozen results. Look at Claudio Ranieri, a god one season and then sacked halfway through the next one!

This is exactly why the board should set the tone of the club. Employees come and go, depending as you say on results. It is up to the board to provide the optimum conditions for the employees to thrive, but if they fail then to replace them with as little disruption as possible.

Our board to the exact opposite. Each appointment is made in the hope they can get them out of the mire. They pass on the responsibility of the clubs welfare to the manager and hope for the best.

Of course when the axe falls Fenty will say we backed the manager, he had everything he asked for. In his eyes that is true, but it is nowhere enough to compete in the modern game.