The reality

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Jolley could learn from Hurst in that though at numerous times it wasn’t pretty Hurst found a way of playing that suited the players abilities Jolley however seems to be trying to get players to play to a system rather then their strengths. A system that changes weekly at the moment.

Additionally your right about players going to the non chairman on the basis of what we’ve seen since the MKD game they are collectively a massive part of this problem

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Maybe Jolley would have taken some stick from the fans if his 3-5-3 had gone that way but he could have cupped his ear and pointed to points in the bag.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Hurst is a lowest common denominator manager. You start the game with one point and if it ends 0-0 then that is a result. A goal is a bonus. Interestingly reporters in the local press at Ipswich have already picked this up, not from us but from his time at Shrewsbury. I think he had 16 1-0 wins last season, mainly in the earlier games and then settled for draws and the play-offs in the final 10 games or so. Disgruntled would be a good word for the average Ipswich fan with their new manager.

Maybe Jolley would have taken some stick from the fans if his 3-5-3 had gone that way but he could have cupped his ear and pointed to points in the bag.

As it is, he is stuck. He can’t manage the senior players and despite a plethora of badges between them,  Jolley and his staff  do not coach the side well enough either. Just looking back for example on the two goals conceded on Saturday, it is clear that the defence has no idea whether to play a high line or drop off. When someone runs at them they don’t know whether to sh!t, shave or shower. Collins goes forward, then back, then forwards and gets passed. There is no discipline in the team, the midfielders either are not fit enough or are not sure whether to attack the ball or drop off. The forwards never know where the ball will land when it comes out of orbit so they don’t know whether to run the channels or stay put.

Really it is as grim as it gets. Yet I don’t believe the players are hopeless, they just need a firm sense of purpose instead of all this jawing. John Tondeur asks Jolley what he has done to halt the slide. Worked on some drills and had one to one talks was the reply. One to one talks! Unbelievable for a manager to say it. It should be “I talked and he listened, and then he either does it or he’s out of the side.”

The words p!ss up and brewery spring to mind.

Quoted from Yoda

Yes MJ was a popular choice but it’s hasnt worked out unfortunately, can we risk another relegation to non league.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Regardless im sorry you cant lose 7 games in a row when scoring just one goal without any manager being under threat from the sack at any level any club.

So as much as people like him and want him to succeed its results here and now what matter .

Quoted from VinnyGTFC

I'll accept that if you like, but why are we behaving like John Fenty has wronged us on this occasion. He has made mistakes sure but this was a popular appointment and should be treat as such. A good appointment that hasn't quite worked out, but kept us in the league last season. And we we're dead and buried.

Quoted from promotion plaice

But what sort of a player budget did Mr Fenty give MJ this summer compared to our rivals because if it was poor as I suspect then Mr Fenty has to take some of the blame, what happened to that hairs on the back of the neck striker that we clearly needed.

Quoted from Ipswin

But Jolley must surely have known that (as soon as he got over the shock of actually getting the job). He couldn't possibly have expected any (non) Chairman to hand him a huge budget when his previous experience was confined to running a Subbuteo team FFS

Fenty's daft but not that daft

Also of course we don't know if failing to secure a Premiership standard 40 goal a season striker was to do solely with money anyway. I suspect most if not all of those he wanted too one look at BP, Grimsby, Fenty, Jolley at al and said an emphatic no thanks

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The reality is that the issues are mounting up,

- 91st in the EFL
- Six defeats in a row and one goal scored
- Possibly the worst defence ever? Certainly since 77/78 when I started going.
- A side that looks like they are waiting for defeat to happen - zero confidence!
- Pros that look like they can't or won't stand up and be counted.  
- Senior pros who are offering very little.
- No creativity, poor passing and we give the ball away cheaply/
- Talent left on the bench whilst others looked guaranteed a start
- A different selection and shape each week and no width, we need a system for the players not players for a system.
- Two fit CB's one who went down with Chesterfield last season the other should have been put down and not re-signed.
- Questionable levels of fitness and apparently the team went away in the week rather than drilling the defence on the training ground
- Questionable sub decisions and too many "square pegs" taking the field.  
- Crowds shrinking by the week
- A board who come out with cheap statements about a move one week and then talk to us about wanting to sell the next???
- Nobody decent wants to sign for us, is it money, location, the manager, the threat of relegation or just that the club is a dysfunctional shambles?
- A match day experience that is embarrassing.


The list goes on and on.......

You can analyse it as much as you want but even at the end of September we are in real danger of dropping back to the abyss, in fact when you look at the team and whole club and the lack of pride and spreading apathy I'd say we are favourites.  

Short term - MJ needs to go, the self proclaimed "custodians" of the club need to get their hands in their pockets (they are directors after all) and pay for a good replacement who will stabilise us on the pitch and keep us up.  

Mid Term - If we operate at this "small time" level sooner or later the trap door will get us, it's inevitable. The glass half empty attitude of this board needs to change.

Long Term - Who knows? With the current people in charge I think we'll keep going around in circles at best but at worst we may disappear like the Stockport and York.  

The reality? It's fuked and in reality it feels like it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.

UTM!

Quoted from VinnyGTFC