Who next for manager.??

Anybody any ideas what would come here.

More attractive proposition than after we sacked Slade. New manager would have time to assess/work with squad.

Quoted from Yoda

Anybody any ideas what would come here.

If he would come. Justin Edinburgh. Doubt he would though.

Quoted from Yoda

Anybody any ideas what would come here.

As much as it would please me.......Jolley hasn't been sacked yet.

Depends which name gets pulled out JF's top hat.

Gary Bowyer

Keith Curle

There's a few gobshites in the lower youngs who think they could do a better job

Fenty's managerial philosophy,

1) Who's cheap,
2) Will they accept a 6 month rolling contract,
3) Can they bring in free transfers,
4) Will they work for free in the ticket office,

Quoted from hheh2

Gary Bowyer

Would be an amazing appointment but surely couldn't be tempted. Then again if you've worked for the Oystons John Fenty might seem like an attractive employer.

Will Fenty pay the wages to get a good manager ?

I'm surprised Buckley's name hasn't been mentioned again  

The list who would want to become the next Town manager would be far shorter than those who didn't want the job.

Challinor from AFC Fylde

Keith Curle for me if MJ is sacked, and should be based on results.  Its a dam shame as I wanted MJ to do well, as he's a lovely guy.  It's just not worked out (sometimes it happens).  I think KC is the right type of person that wouldn't be soft.

Ian Holloway,ha,

Who’s managing Solihull there doing really well.

Quoted from buckstown

Challinor from AFC Fylde

Go and sit on the naughty step.

I’d have Paul Hurst back in a shot.
Looks like he might be a free agent soon as well

Quoted from Yoda

Anybody any ideas what would come here.

Me 😂😂😊😊😂😂😂😂

Alexander

Groves and McDermott with Buckley as director of football and Disley as physio (dhysio?), because they all know the club and the Grimsby way.

JT said Kevin Nolan was available

Quoted from moosey_club

Go and sit on the naughty step.

Pourquoi?
Does one bad tackle make you persona non grata (unless you're Bob Cumming in which case it's a laugh)
The mans done a great job and clearly knows how to organise a team

I'm sorry, but I don't want John Fenty to make another single decision for the club..

J.S.F.'s milkman on 4 year contract of £138K from a friend who's in the know.. J.S.F. said he knows more about football than himself or any of the managers since Buckley

We should appoint whoever is our Fifth choice manager.  That is what we usually end up doing.

Jose Mourinho might be out of a job soon!  

Quoted from Meza

Keith Curle for me if MJ is sacked, and should be based on results.  Its a dam shame as I wanted MJ to do well, as he's a lovely guy.  It's just not worked out (sometimes it happens).  I think KC is the right type of person that wouldn't be soft.

Quoted from hheh2

Gary Bowyer

Football is ruthless business.  If the Grimsby Town board have any sense, they will approach certain managers like the above, to see if they are interested prior to any manager change.

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

[/quote]Football is ruthless business.  If the Grimsby Town board have any sense, they will approach certain managers like the above, to see if they are interested prior to any manager change.

Nah! He'll lose his rag, throw a few chairs around, then sack MJ without a plan in place. Limbrick will be put in charge for 2 months while we are turned down by all and sundry, eventually ending up with another soul desperate for a go at it.

That's how we usually do things at this club.  

Quoted from buckstown

Pourquoi?
Does one bad tackle make you persona non grata (unless you're Bob Cumming in which case it's a laugh)
The mans done a great job and clearly knows how to organise a team

He is a total cnt and i dont want him anywhere near my club.

But why is a total cnt? Explain

Like a lot of people have said jolley seems a nice guy and we have wanted him to succeed .
We all wanted him to do well as we are all supporters of  our football club but the buck stops with the manager and his new squad he has brought in so sorry but it is time to say goodbye.

So the new manager if we could get him Robbie Stockdale

garry bowyer

Quoted from buckstown

But why is a total cnt? Explain

Horrible..dirty..sneaky...cheating player all his career. Cnt end of.


Oh...imo of course

Quoted from hheh2

Gary Bowyer

Great shout............ Perfectly qualified! Experienced in getting an under performing set of players in a dysfunctional club promoted add to this the ability to work under owners that are complete narcissist tight @bottom bar-stewards.

Add to that his dad won the European cup but will he do it for a luck bag and a caravan on the Fitties on 6 month rolling?

Ebbsfleet's McMahon

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Ebbsfleet's McMahon

So what does his experience suggest he'll be able to work with and move forward....

- A side that is 91st in the EFL
- A side who are mentally shot to sh1t after 2 months of the season
- A side with one goal scored and no points in September
- If he came in next week two fit CB's one of whom went down to the NL last season the other who should go to the knackers yard ASAP
- No recognised width in the side.
- A side that plays home games on grass that actually grows
- A club that is apparently up for sale to "a buyer with the wherewithal"? allegedly though as long as the £2 million debt is paid back
- Fitness levels that belong in the last week of June
- A fan base that must  be respected as they spend a lot of their disposable income on GTFC but overall expect champagne football on a Lambrini budget.    

To get us out of this sh1t we need Big Sam levels of experience and expertise but I doubt the Gang of Four (well 3 and a donkey trainer) have the budget or desire to attract Fireman Sam to give up a steady job to turn this fcuk up around never mind a well respected non league manager.    

Luke Garrard or Gary Bowyer. But there’s no way Bowyer would work for Fenty, as he quit Blackpool because of the Oystons.

Why not Brantley the last thing that Fenty is is a crook  

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

JT said Kevin Nolan was available

I work in the Nottingham area and it's generally known that Kevin Nolan could rival Mike Newell in a beer drinking contest. I'd give him a miss. Ian Holloway would be my first choice, though possibly unrealistic. If not, Craig Bellamy but he's recently taken up a position coaching an under 23 team I think.

Ideally, we win at Carlisle and MJ stays in a job. I like the bloke, but he's teetering on the edge.

Quoted from Abdul19

Groves and McDermott with Buckley as director of football and Disley as physio (dhysio?), because they all know the club and the Grimsby way.

made me laugh anyway

Quoted from mariner paul

There's a few gobshites in the lower youngs who think they could do a better job

There's more than a few on this site as well and that includes a fair number who know how to run the club!

Quoted from mariner paul

There's a few gobshites in the lower youngs who think they could do a better job

Considering the shite we are having to watch at the moment, they probably could.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Fenty's managerial philosophy,

1) Who's cheap,
2) Will they accept a 6 month rolling contract,
3) Can they bring in free transfers,
4) Will they work for free in the ticket office,

1) Is MJ cheap and how much have we offered previous managers? Facts please and not conjecture or my mate's cousin's girlfriend told me.

2) Certainly preferable than signing a two year deal and then paying them off after a few months ( as could be the case soon )

3) All managers ( and certainly in Div 1 & 2 ) sign players on free transfers.

4) I've seen MJ doing a PR exercise in the ticket office ( post a televised interview ) in helping out but not on a regular basis. maybe the poster can enlighten us on that one.

Can't believe people are saying Chalinor I would never go to a town game with him as manager.

What we should do is give Jolley another month to sort things out,

Then we should have a manager lined up who wants the job,

Not sack Jolley and then look who is available.

Hopefully we will not need to replace MJ but if we do the new man will have a couple of months to access the players we have and will go into the transfer window knowing what we need.

Quoted from grimsby pete

What we should do is give Jolley another month to sort things out,

Then we should have a manager lined up who wants the job,

Not sack Jolley and then look who is available.

Hopefully we will not need to replace MJ but if we do the new man will have a couple of months to access the players we have and will go into the transfer window knowing what we need.

Sorry Pete but Jolley had all summer to asses the squad, which he did, got rid of some who he should've kept( one of whom was on display yesterday) and never dealt with what has been an underlying problem, we needed a striker, some wide players with a bit of pace and some half decent defenders oh and some quality midfielders...and he delivered on none of these......

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Sorry Pete but Jolley had all summer to asses the squad, which he did, got rid of some who he should've kept( one of whom was on display yesterday) and never dealt with what has been an underlying problem, we needed a striker, some wide players with a bit of pace and some half decent defenders oh and some quality midfielders...and he delivered on none of these......

Then we need to find out who is available Jeff.

Hate to say but maybe sol Campbell will sort our defend out  😕 this isn’t saying I want him as manager either

Quoted from OllieGTFC

Hate to say but maybe sol Campbell will sort our defend out  😕 this isn’t saying I want him as manager either

Fair point but whose going to sort out the midfield and attack......then there's the lack of investment to sort out and the new stadium to sort out as well.....there's only one person for me that can sort this mess out....."Ace Rimmer".....what a guy.

When and I'm saying "when" not if MJ goes as I feel it's inevitable JF should seek advice on his next appointment from people in the game who have football knowledge and not just choose the appointment himself.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

When and I'm saying "when" not if MJ goes as I feel it's inevitable JF should seek advice on his next appointment from people in the game who have football knowledge and not just choose the appointment himself.

Perhaps he could consult Russell Slade, not many around who have his breadth of experience or his number of clubs  

Quoted from fiveallive

Can't believe people are saying Chalinor I would never go to a town game with him as manager.

We wouldn't want anybody nasty and successful

Strange moment on quest last night,

Ian Holloway was taken ill after been told he is wanted as the next Grimsby manager.

Quoted from buckstown

We wouldn't want anybody nasty and successful

Like Steve Evans? See he is struggling again at his new club.

Quoted from buckstown

We wouldn't want anybody nasty and successful

Don't worry there is no chance of that unfortunately

Quoted from ginnywings

Like Steve Evans? See he is struggling again at his new club.

Exactly, just get a proper manager and ignore fans. "Oh I'll never go to BP again if that successful man is appointed, he once did something I didn't like"

Quoted from fiveallive

Can't believe people are saying Chalinor I would never go to a town game with him as manager.

I think the dislike of Challinor goes back to his Stockport days. Tacking David Nielson from behind and breaking his leg, which ultimately ended Nielsons' career. It also fuelled my dislike of Mark Clattenburg, and my respect for Carlton Palmer, then player /manager of Stockport.

Quoted from Futchfan

I think the dislike of Challinor goes back to his Stockport days. Tacking David Nielson from behind and breaking his leg, which ultimately ended Nielsons' career. It also fuelled my dislike of Mark Clattenburg, and my respect for Carlton Palmer, then player /manager of Stockport.

I don't think Palmer was in any way to blame was he? Didn't he take Challinor off, or am I dreaming that?

Quoted from Futchfan

I think the dislike of Challinor goes back to his Stockport days. Tacking David Nielson from behind and breaking his leg, which ultimately ended Nielsons' career. It also fuelled my dislike of Mark Clattenburg, and my respect for Carlton Palmer, then player /manager of Stockport.

It was Martin Pringle

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I don't think Palmer was in any way to blame was he? Didn't he take Challinor off, or am I dreaming that?

And then slaughtered him in the press next day.

Quoted from livosnose

It was Martin Pringle

He would not have been quick enough to catch Neilson.....

Though the red crosses will come flying in I'd take Challinor over relegation to the National League despite "that" tackle.

Hasn't Challinor had success at Fylde due to their huge budget?

Stick with MJ, drop the trouble causers to train with the youth squad and away from the first team

Quoted from H19P1

Stick with MJ, drop the trouble causers to train with the youth squad and away from the first team

Would be a great start

Quoted from H19P1

Stick with MJ, drop the trouble causers to train with the youth squad and away from the first team

And they are?

Quoted from arryarryarry

And they are?

We’d all find out if they were sent training elsewhere. MJ post match interview may be a clue that some players are actually or partially to blame.

We immediately assume that it’s the managers fault. Maybe it’s not this time and we’ve got some bad eggs in the camp?

Should be an interesting week for everyone at the club because changes are definitely required if the hierarchy acts 😤

Whoever whenever it is one thing for certain it wouldn't ever be anyone with a personality like a steve evans or say a ian holloway..

Could you imagine steve evans asking john for an extra fifty  quid to tie up a deal for a striker only to be told to sell the old snooker table.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Sorry Pete but Jolley had all summer to asses the squad, which he did, got rid of some who he should've kept( one of whom was on display yesterday) and never dealt with what has been an underlying problem, we needed a striker, some wide players with a bit of pace and some half decent defenders oh and some quality midfielders...and he delivered on none of these......

Yes and that former player backed off and off which gave Embleton his goal scoring chance. I bet big Jim Bentley was far from impressed by that.

Kevin Nolan, are you serious?

Kevin Nolan, are you serious?

All the wise arses are out in force again with their views on the next manager and criticising Fenty again.

Funny how all these same voices were heard praising the choice of MJ, the new backroom staff, the players we signed, thanking JF for supporting the manager etc.

I'd like to give MJ a few more games to see if he can turn it round, controversial I know but I don't believe the answer is to keep changing manager when the going gets tough. After all, he did a great job keeping us up when the odds were against us last season.

As for proposing the likes of Ian Holloway, if we needed a clown in charge I'd contact Russell's circus first.

UTM

Quoted from Bradford Mariner

All the wise arses are out in force again with their views on the next manager and criticising Fenty again.

Funny how all these same voices were heard praising the choice of MJ, the new backroom staff, the players we signed, thanking JF for supporting the manager etc.

I'd like to give MJ a few more games to see if he can turn it round, controversial I know but I don't believe the answer is to keep changing manager when the going gets tough. After all, he did a great job keeping us up when the odds were against us last season.

As for proposing the likes of Ian Holloway, if we needed a clown in charge I'd contact Russell's circus first.

UTM

I think Jolley should be given longer to sort out the situation, but i have not, and never will, thank Fenty for anything, especially the ruination of our club

Quoted from Bradford Mariner

All the wise arses are out in force again with their views on the next manager and criticising Fenty again.

Funny how all these same voices were heard praising the choice of MJ, the new backroom staff, the players we signed, thanking JF for supporting the manager etc.

I'd like to give MJ a few more games to see if he can turn it round, controversial I know but I don't believe the answer is to keep changing manager when the going gets tough. After all, he did a great job keeping us up when the odds were against us last season.

As for proposing the likes of Ian Holloway, if we needed a clown in charge I'd contact Russell's circus first.

UTM

Which part of the last 16 years in GTFC' history has gone well in your opinion?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Which part of the last 16 years in GTFC' history has gone well in your opinion?

If J.S.F. hadn't stepped in there wouldn't have been the last 16 years.He gave us a loan to save this club from extinction with no interest charges remember so naturally he wants his money back. Just answer one question-"Would YOU walk away if it was your money" and no politicians .answers -a straight YES or NO.  please

Quoted from golfer

If J.S.F. hadn't stepped in there wouldn't have been the last 16 years.He gave us a loan to save this club from extinction with no interest charges remember so naturally he wants his money back. Just answer one question-"Would YOU walk away if it was your money" and no politicians .answers -a straight YES or NO.  please

Given the proportion of his wealth that it represents, and the grief that's come with it, YES without a doubt.

Quoted from golfer

If J.S.F. hadn't stepped in there wouldn't have been the last 16 years.He gave us a loan to save this club from extinction with no interest charges remember so naturally he wants his money back. Just answer one question-"Would YOU walk away if it was your money" and no politicians .answers -a straight YES or NO.  please

This is Bigdog's post from another thread - I think it answers your question

Let's nail another myth..

Under Fenty the club has lost half a mill for six seasons by not being in the Football League, there's £3m. And let's be generous to John and say the pitiful performances and shambolic way the club has been driven into the ground have only put off an average of 1k fans per home game. Let's face it, how many people does everyone know that don't go anymore? And it's not even taking into account lost income from away fans. That's say £13k per game, £300k per season, so £5m over 17 seasons. That's a total of £8m without taking into account the fact that we've not had any inward investment for years..

Which of John's predecessors have cost the club that much money, make no apologies for it and still take no financial responsibility, then boldly try to make out that they're keeping the club afloat? He is of course in a small way but only by securing it on what little value there is left in the club. The sick thing is that he's only had to keep the club afloat because of his own crass decisions and actions. As harming this club goes, John Fenty is like the ITV Digital collapse on steriods..

Quoted from Bradford Mariner

All the wise arses are out in force again with their views on the next manager and criticising Fenty again.

Funny how all these same voices were heard praising the choice of MJ, the new backroom staff, the players we signed, thanking JF for supporting the manager etc.

I'd like to give MJ a few more games to see if he can turn it round, controversial I know but I don't believe the answer is to keep changing manager when the going gets tough. After all, he did a great job keeping us up when the odds were against us last season.

As for proposing the likes of Ian Holloway, if we needed a clown in charge I'd contact Russell's circus first.

UTM

Agree with a fair bit of this. Weren't we criticising him for not getting Jolley tied down to a 5 year deal or something stupid not so long ago.

Everyone is agreed we need a regime change, even the man himself by the sounds of it. But christ, the number of 180 degree turns on here is dizzy making.

Holloway? FFS, or even FFFS.

Quoted from marinerdazza

Agree with a fair bit of this. Weren't we criticising him for not getting Jolley tied down to a 5 year deal or something stupid not so long ago.

Everyone is agreed we need a regime change, even the man himself by the sounds of it. But christ, the number of 180 degree turns on here is dizzy making.

Holloway? FFS, or even FFFS.

We? There were very differing opinions imo

Quoted from Cloudy

We? There were very differing opinions imo

I've been on here in various guises since 1998 and I don't think I've ever seen a decision or suggestion which has had anything close to unanimous support.

My point is that it was a suggestion on here which had a fair few posters behind it.

Quoted from marinerdazza

I've been on here in various guises since 1998 and I don't think I've ever seen a decision or suggestion which has had anything close to unanimous support.

My point is that it was a suggestion on here which had a fair few posters behind it.

It sure did but  saying 'we' wanted Jolley given a long term contract is misleading IMHO

Quoted from Cloudy

It sure did but  saying 'we' wanted Jolley given a long term contract is misleading IMHO

Then I apologise for any misunderstanding.

We were all behind Newell. We were all wrong.

It doesn't matter about the circumstances of his appointment. The only thing that matters is the here and now, and you can't have a long term "revolution", if you are heading back to non league, because all of that will go out of the window for lack of funds.

If he does go (i'd be inclined to give him longer yet), we will once again be looking for a manager to fire fight a poor situation. It's a never ending process of failure and panic stations.

I think it's patently obvious that our problems go beyond the manager. We can all speculate as to where the problems lie, but several factors work against us, and it is getting increasingly more difficult to keep picking ourselves up off the canvas for another go. I personally think we are heading for oblivion unless there are radical changes, and i'm not talking about changing the manager yet again.

The board, the manager, the players, the fans are all downtrodden and browbeaten by continual failure and lack of any discernible progress. Once again, we are going backwards; we are not even treading water. I have no idea what the answer is, but i do know that i am caring less and less as the seasons rack up. Sack him, don't sack him, i'm not ar$ed any more.

I think Jolley should be given another month to get some points on the board and some fight into the team.

I didnt expect us to be challenging at the top but did epect us to be full of energy, fit and organised. Sadly we havent looked anything like this.

Possibly out of our reach but if a decision is made to change then Paul Heckingbottom should be a target. If you dont ask you dont get

I really don't know how long the decision can be left. 2 games? 4 games? a month? Christmas?

The club simply cannot afford to let it go on week after week hoping for a change in fortunes.

They did that with Slade last season (which everyone rightly criticised)

If Jolley is going to be shown the door it has to be sooner rather than later. Christmas seems a natural point as it gives the new man the transfer window but they way things are going we could be seriously adrift at the bottom by then.

My biggest fear is that Jolley somehow manages somehow to scrape up the odd win or draw here and there, enough to justify his retention in the eyes of the board (and many on here) only for it to go mammaries up again after the New Year when it's too late to change

Sorry Jolley lovers, he has to go now. Great idea and wonderful advert for the club and all that but hospital visiting and meeting fans in the ticket office is no substitute for experience in football management and tactics

Quoted from Cloudy

I think Jolley should be given another month to get some points on the board and some fight into the team.

I didnt expect us to be challenging at the top but did epect us to be full of energy, fit and organised. Sadly we havent looked anything like this.

Possibly out of our reach but if a decision is made to change then Paul Heckingbottom should be a target. If you dont ask you dont get

I agree with that. There is still plenty of time left in the season yet, and those players performed so well against the current leaders and MK Dons. If we can get a bit of confidence back and once again perform at those levels, we will be fine. It may not happen of course, but i think we can afford a bit longer to find out. It would help if we didn't have so may injuries, especially defenders.

I agree Ipswin we are just prolonging the agony.
If we loose the next two games we could be adrift at the bottom, then we will struggle to attract any players.

There is not even a glimmer of an improvement to justify two more games.

Met jolley pre season. Nice bloke and speaks a lot of sense. Maybe somewhere it's being lost in translation. He was obviously in for 2 key strikers pre season, and what would appear is that for one reason or another, we were left with plan c and I think ended up with plan g!

I'd also say that it looks to me personally that rose and wright were sent out on loan to get full match fitness, a master stroke if it's right, as they wouldn't get up to speed that quickly on the bench, and the form they are showing is good

A lot of politicians answers here which I knew there would be-including the quote from Bigdogs post.

I like Jolley he’s a sincere person in my view and I’m sure he’ll be hurting as much as anyone at the moment as he’s clearly worked hard to get his first EFL job.

All that said when you look at the last few games this group of players appear to be so far down the path of least resistance I’d be really surprised if he can get them back.

He did well last season and I believe that the catalyst for this was that quite simply “he wasn’t Slade” and the players responded to that.  

Maybe the players would respond better to a beasting of fitness circuits rather than a look at the ring binder and DVD, clearly the “modern way” isn’t working with this group of 4th Division “professionals” who in my view should take a share of the blame and respond in the right manner accordingly.

I think he should go but similar to Ginny if he stays I’m not too bothered either way as I think even if it’s not this season or this manager once again falling through the trap door to non league is inevitable under the current (and I use this word loosely) leadership.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I think he should go but similar to Ginny if he stays I’m not too bothered either way as I think even if it’s not this season or this manager once again falling through the trap door to non league is inevitable under the current (and I use this word loosely) leadership.

If a totally inexperienced, wet behind the ears, man could save us from the deepest crap we were in last season with the bunch of shite he had to work with then surely someone with just a hint of knowledge with what is a better squad this season can extricate us from what is currently just a very shallow layer of excrement.

Division 5 (I refuse to call it non league, it is a league just one below where were are now) is by no means inevitable this season or any season. The immediate problem is to get the players to perform for a manager (they clearly can't or more likely won't respond to Jolley) who has some idea of tactics, game plan and team selection over and above the theory he's read in coaching manuals and coaching badges exam papers.

Quoted from Ipswin

If a totally inexperienced, wet behind the ears, man could save us from the deepest crap we were in last season with the bunch of shite he had to work with then surely someone with just a hint of knowledge with what is a better squad this season can extricate us from what is currently just a very shallow layer of excrement.

Division 5 (I refuse to call it non league, it is a league just one below where were are now) is by no means inevitable this season or any season. The immediate problem is to get the players to perform for a manager (they clearly can't or more likely won't respond to Jolley) who has some idea of tactics, game plan and team selection over and above the theory he's read in coaching manuals and coaching badges exam papers.

Don’t disagree to be honest clearly he’s proved himself when things are going reasonably well like the last half a dozen games last season.

A more experienced head would arguably know the best response to the pathetic defeats we are seeing not only in selection and set up but also when to get stuck into the players or put an arm around them.

I know you say that relegation isn’t a certainty but when you see what’s happening on the pitch we are danger of getting cut adrift which will mean a further drop in confidence and mentality which will be hard to recover for anyone.

Just to add I don’t think it will be performances on the pitch that does for Jolley it will be lack of numbers through the gate