Town 'lads' in court today.

Quoted from LH

It’s not an offence to travel without a ticket. Otherwise the dozens of others who travel to Lincoln every weekend for shopping/drinking/visiting family could face prosecution.

I would be amazed if people haven't seen the video, as it was taped by someone in a shop. I think the issue is that it looked like Lincoln fans defended themselves when attacked in a pub. Again, I am guessing but the Lincoln fans would have known there were more cameras than PC world have.

Although after a couple of minutes a load of younger Lincoln Fans arrived and then it went off properly from what I could see on the clips.

Quoted from GrimRob

Unlikely. The judge will see them as football "scum" as opposed to a national "hero".

But it wasn't a judge who acquitted Stokes but a jury. Surely any fans who can't go to a pub and game without kicking off are scum and deserved to be punished as such

Quoted from towncryer

Not sure about that and maybe not if your not causing trouble but if your seen to be attacking a pub with opposing fans in it and you get arrested I reckon you'll need a pretty good solicitor.

well if its the ones who were posted on you tube a short while after the event...filmed from an upstairs window across the way (?) then i would be amazed if our end don't apply for a 2 yr banning order.  
There were actual punches thrown and at least a couple of them landed....people over here have got longer bans for less than that.

Quoted from moosey_club

well if its the ones who were posted on you tube a short while after the event...filmed from an upstairs window across the way (?) then i would be amazed if our end don't apply for a 2 yr banning order.  
There were actual punches thrown and at least a couple of them landed....people over here have got longer bans for less than that.

Yes thats the one I was referring too. Daft place to do it.

Quoted from moosey_club

well if its the ones who were posted on you tube a short while after the event...filmed from an upstairs window across the way (?) then i would be amazed if our end don't apply for a 2 yr banning order.  
There were actual punches thrown and at least a couple of them landed....people over here have got longer bans for less than that.

Yes that is the main video used against them plus there are the polices own video plus a cctv camera right outside the magistrates court which I'm sure would of picked the whole incident up.
My apologies but it's Thursday I think and not today they are in court.

Quoted from nealeardleyscrossing

I would be amazed if people haven't seen the video, as it was taped by someone in a shop. I think the issue is that it looked like Lincoln fans defended themselves when attacked in a pub. Again, I am guessing but the Lincoln fans would have known there were more cameras than PC world have.

Although after a couple of minutes a load of younger Lincoln Fans arrived and then it went off properly from what I could see on the clips.

Not sure why you’ve quoted me in this? It is not an offence to travel to a place where a match is being played without a ticket. If they have commited offences whilst there they will be tried and punished for those offences rather than simply going there.

Was informed by local Lincoln guy who is involved in this type of stuff that Grimsby fans getting done for more serious charge of afraid, reason being they travelled to Lincoln with match tickets but never went to the game, only sensible thing they did that day, and thus police determine that their sole purpose of attending was to cause trouble.

So looks like no argument for their defence.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Was informed by local Lincoln guy who is involved in this type of stuff that Grimsby fans getting done for more serious charge of afraid, reason being they travelled to Lincoln with match tickets but never went to the game, only sensible thing they did that day, and thus police determine that their sole purpose of attending was to cause trouble.

So looks like no argument for their defence.

I assume you mean 'affray' rather than 'afraid'. Their intention not to visit the match will have no bearing on the offence although the prosecution may well try to guild the lily by inferring their presence in Lincoln was purely to get involved in violent acts

The offence is under section 3 of the Public Order Act 1986  'A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety.'

In other words virtually anyone getting involved in match day aggravation in a pub or in town or wherever is guilty of affray if some one is scared by their behaviour

Far from more serious I reckon its better than assault, ABH or GBH. If Ben Stokes can get off the Town lads should urine it!  

Quoted from GrimRob

Unlikely. The judge will see them as football "scum" as opposed to a national "hero".

Same thing happened with Steven Gerrard. Very difficult to secure a conviction nowadays with the all encompassing celebrity culture we live in.

As said earlier, they will all be fined, given football banning orders of about 2 years, then GTFC will ban them for life. I do not agree with any football violence at all, it's a pity all supporters cannot attend games in peace, that would allow the clubs to spend more money on players etc and not on policing, but our fans for whatever reason seem to be more harshly dealt with their then fans is other clubs.