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1mickylyons
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He can take the crown abandoned by Slade. To be fair to Hurst, he has actually won stuff, albeit at a lower level. If you play the percentages as he does, you are as likely to lose as win.


I think PH is a decent Manager and he is very good at setting up a team and getting points on the board however when it comes to key games and getting the job done in big games he more often than not fails.Shrewsbury had more than an hour to break Lincoln down and failed and we saw this at Grimsby loads of times that shocking tactical nouse when Plan A failed it`s Paul Hurst`s Achilles heel .
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According to Clive Nates on the radio last night, the Cowleys are about to put pen to paper on another contract at Lincoln. Doesn't look likely they will be going to Ipswich or anywhere else sometime soon. What it does do though is make another club have pay even more for compensation should they leave. Looks like they are still aiming to buy a house(s) locally to bring their families up from Essex too.
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According to Clive Nates on the radio last night, the Cowleys are about to put pen to paper on another contract at Lincoln. Doesn't look likely they will be going to Ipswich or anywhere else sometime soon. What it does do though is make another club have pay even more for compensation should they leave. Looks like they are still aiming to buy a house(s) locally to bring their families up from Essex too.


Contracts mean nothing nowadays. They are probably signing the deal to safeguard Lincoln financially for a few more years. If you don’t go up I fully expect them to leave this summer. If you do get promotion then they’ll stay
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According to Clive Nates on the radio last night, the Cowleys are about to put pen to paper on another contract at Lincoln. Doesn't look likely they will be going to Ipswich or anywhere else sometime soon. What it does do though is make another club have pay even more for compensation should they leave. Looks like they are still aiming to buy a house(s) locally to bring their families up from Essex too.


As someone once said "well he would say that wouldn't he"?.


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I think PH is a decent Manager and he is very good at setting up a team and getting points on the board however when it comes to key games and getting the job done in big games he more often than not fails.Shrewsbury had more than an hour to break Lincoln down and failed and we saw this at Grimsby loads of times that shocking tactical nouse when Plan A failed it`s Paul Hurst`s Achilles heel .


Similar pattern developing at the business end of the season again for hurst and take a look a Henderson for Charlton's second   , I fancy Rotherham for the play off spot winners
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Anyone would have to pay compensation to Lincoln as both Danny and Nicky are under contract until 2021. Pocket money to some teams yes, but not for others.

I don't see any Lincoln fans thinking that the Cowleys will stay for ages, it's what happens and who we appoint in the future when they leave that will be important. The good news for us is the infrastructure and investment is in place to carry on (hopefully) but any manager appointment is a lottery.


It is a lottery and you only have to look at us to see how easy it is to get it wrong, very wrong.

When Hurst left the feeling was that we were in a strong position, we had a side that needed some subtle tweaks and we would have been there or thereabouts at the end of the season.  We were adopting a policy of bringing talent through from non-league with a view to operating at a profit and despite a complete lack of effort from the club, gates were up.

Some even felt that Hurst moving on was the right time, that he had taken us as far as we could go, that a new manager was needed to take us to the next level.  I was one of those.  The appointment of Bignot was widely acknowledged as a good one and exactly what we needed, in reality it was a disaster followed by an even bigger disaster six months later.  Within a year our hope was gone, our policy of buying cheap to develop and sell was abandoned, we had a squad of aging journeymen and even worse the club blamed us for everything.
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I was a big supporter of Hurst and was sorry to see him go. He was steady, if not spectacular - and, crucially, he delivered. It might not have been quick enough for some, but I enjoyed supporting us when he was in charge.

However, if there was one thing that really niggled away at me about his management was how his teams were far more expressive before the January transfer window, and then we'd tighten up and play safety-first football and do just enough to get where we (roughly) wanted to be.

Then we had no momentum for the play-offs.

I remember looking into our margins of victory before and after January. Generally speaking, our biggest wins were all before Christmas and our 1-0s followed in the new year.

Shrewsbury haven't been winning games by huge margins at all this year, but yet again it looks as though he's got his team playing tighter and more defensive since January.

It's a very obvious trend to me. Something happens to him in January. When things are going well, he'll never go for the jugular. He'll tighten up, play to not lose and do enough to make the play-offs - then it's difficult to break off the shackles of that mentality.

I do wish him well, and I'd like to see Shrewsbury in the Championship ahead of others that are in the race for promotion. But if you're an opposition manager you'll find a way to beat him at this stage of the season - it's one of his very few weaknesses.


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It’s very effective though but agree it won’t work so well up the pyramid



It didn't do Wimbledon any harm when " The Crazy Gang " played for them. It's not what I want to watch but " the end justifies the means ".


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It didn't do Wimbledon any harm when " The Crazy Gang " played for them. It's not what I want to watch but " the end justifies the means ".


They were not the first team to do it. Watford were very successful even in Europe with a route one system under  Graham Taylor using Ross Jenkins height and Luther Blisset's speed. But the ace of Route One was John Beck, another former Lincoln manager who used this at Cambridge to batter the opposition into submission. He would leave long grass in the corners so they could belt the ball into the channels without it going off for a throw or goal kick. They would hose the pitch down before games and also soak the away dressing rooms which were left unheated in the winter.




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Contracts mean nothing nowadays. They are probably signing the deal to safeguard Lincoln financially for a few more years. If you don’t go up I fully expect them to leave this summer. If you do get promotion then they’ll stay


We shall see, DC intends to bring his family up here and I don't think he would say that a few days ago if he intended on leaving in the summer. I don't doubt the contracts are about safeguarding us in case they leave, I just don't see them leaving in the summer regardless of whether we go up or not.
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