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cmackenzie4
March 18, 2015, 5:15pm

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Is Grimsby much different to anywhere else.

Try visiting other clubs forums, all clubs have so called exiles.  I wasn't born in Grimsby but brought up there and as such my father took me to a game many moons ago and I have missed a handful of home matches since and once I learned to drive go to many of the away games.

I have moved away but only because I was offered a job elsewhere, it had nothing to do with a lack of jobs in Grimsby.

I sometimes think some people are too quick to put a downer on the Town, you want to try living where I live, it is nowhere near as good as Grimsby.



I don't think it was putting a downer on the Town. I think a lot of our exiles just don't come back after their terms at university or college because there are no jobs in the areas they are qualified in. That is probably the same for a lot of clubs in similar geographic positions. Like you I go to a lot of away games and, the supporters buses aside (with the regular car travellers) I don't often see people I remember seeing regularly at home games. It has always struck me that out of a large away following that is a lot of exiles. I have at least a dozen mates who live in the South East who go to games within a 50 mile radius of London.


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I don't think it was putting a downer on the Town. I think a lot of our exiles just don't come back after their terms at university or college because there are no jobs in the areas they are qualified in. That is probably the same for a lot of clubs in similar geographic positions. Like you I go to a lot of away games and, the supporters buses aside (with the regular car travellers) I don't often see people I remember seeing regularly at home games. It has always struck me that out of a large away following that is a lot of exiles. I have at least a dozen mates who live in the South East who go to games within a 50 mile radius of London.


There is the reverse to that too. Partners daughter moved to Lincoln to do her degree, got a first class honours and decided to stay there but couldn't get a decent job with all the graduates there are to choose from. She moved back here 6 months ago and employers were falling over themselves to acquire her services after registering with some employment agencies.
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There is the reverse to that too. Partners daughter moved to Lincoln to do her degree, got a first class honours and decided to stay there but couldn't get a decent job with all the graduates there are to choose from. She moved back here 6 months ago and employers were falling over themselves to acquire her services after registering with some employment agencies.


Hopefully that is part of a trend-for the good of the area


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Too much blame is put on lack of jobs element for the brain drain from the area.

I returned and stayed in NE Lincs as a post-graduate because of my own personal circumstances.  Had they been different, I'm not sure that in my early 20's that the biggest concern of my next location would be the jobs market.  At that age most are concerned with their lifestyle, quite rightly too.  The majority end up staying in the city they studied.

People leave NE Lincs and don't return because there is far more happening and going on in bigger towns and cities.  Sure there will be a few people who've gone away and decided to not return because they fancy their chances of getting a job in a city.

Way too much negativity about this area when it comes to employment.  There are jobs out there, it's just people aren't prepared to graft for them.  Too many graduates do their three-year course and think they're entitled to walk into a £40k a year salary with benefits.    It doesn't work like that.  My experience was that the degree did you no favours straight off, it was once you had a bit of experience, gained a bit of real knowledge and proved you can actually do the job it was an advantage.

Yes, Grimsby isn't as vibrant as bigger cities with brighter lights.  Yes, there are more jobs in these cities, but there are also more people going for them.  Grimsby is what it is, a medium sized Town at a geographical disadvantage but I can't stand the constant focus on the negatives.  It's also got a hell of a lot going for it.







I hope Torquay get sorted.
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Too much blame is put on lack of jobs element for the brain drain from the area.

I returned and stayed in NE Lincs as a post-graduate because of my own personal circumstances.  Had they been different, I'm not sure that in my early 20's that the biggest concern of my next location would be the jobs market.  At that age most are concerned with their lifestyle, quite rightly too.  The majority end up staying in the city they studied.

People leave NE Lincs and don't return because there is far more happening and going on in bigger towns and cities.  Sure there will be a few people who've gone away and decided to not return because they fancy their chances of getting a job in a city.

Way too much negativity about this area when it comes to employment.  There are jobs out there, it's just people aren't prepared to graft for them.  Too many graduates do their three-year course and think they're entitled to walk into a £40k a year salary with benefits.    It doesn't work like that.  My experience was that the degree did you no favours straight off, it was once you had a bit of experience, gained a bit of real knowledge and proved you can actually do the job it was an advantage.

Yes, Grimsby isn't as vibrant as bigger cities with brighter lights.  Yes, there are more jobs in these cities, but there are also more people going for them.  Grimsby is what it is, a medium sized Town at a geographical disadvantage but I can't stand the constant focus on the negatives.  It's also got a hell of a lot going for it.







I hope Torquay get sorted.


Yeah, agreed. Partners daughter struggled to get her first job in Lincoln because of a lack of experience, so she took something well below her capability for a year and has now moved back here, where she again took a job below her capabilities for 6 months. She starts her dream job next month and is loving it in Clee.

I think Torquay, despite being one of the prime UK holiday destinations, suffers the same problems we do. There is a lack of good jobs for the young and the house prices are high too.

People get attracted to the South East for the high wages and lifestyle but i think once they settle down with someone and think about starting a family, their priorities change and a move back North looks more appealing.
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People get attracted to the South East for the high wages and lifestyle but i think once they settle down with someone and think about starting a family, their priorities change and a move back North looks more appealing.


Yep, quite a lot of my friends moved away and lived down in/near that there London after graduation, but lots of them have since drifted back to the area (or to more northern cities for some of them) to settle down and start a family.

That said, Cleethorpes was a cracking good night out back when I was in my twenties and me and my mates often visited friends for weekends in Nottingham, Leeds and Manchester back then as well, so we didn't miss out much on too many of the 'amenities' cities can provide! Not sure it is the same for youngsters these days, not least because they don't have as much disposable income as us due to the ridiculous situation in the housing market.

It's not very exciting in NE Lincs, but you are next to the sea so the air is clear and house prices (though enormously inflated) are cheap compared to many areas of the country. Just a pity that we're on the end of the line a bit and don't have any really booming industry to bring a lot more money and better jobs into the region.
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Yeah, agreed. Partners daughter struggled to get her first job in Lincoln because of a lack of experience, so she took something well below her capability for a year and has now moved back here, where she again took a job below her capabilities for 6 months. She starts her dream job next month and is loving it in Clee.

I think Torquay, despite being one of the prime UK holiday destinations, suffers the same problems we do. There is a lack of good jobs for the young and the house prices are high too.

People get attracted to the South East for the high wages and lifestyle but i think once they settle down with someone and think about starting a family, their priorities change and a move back North looks more appealing.


I spent the best part of 20 years in the South East but once the kids came along it became more difficult to get decent housing which in turn meant moving further away with a long commute. I have now been back 20 years and the eldest is now in London. Even harder to see how he can get on the property ladder despite a salary in excess of  £60kpa
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